[MitzaLizalor]

Re: False Religions And Cults

The other two links are just for decoration, they are just meaningless assertions without actual data, so I just glanced over them without reading.

Your "scientific method" is not something endorsed in The Bible where it's identified as foolishness. But method or not, in its own terms the second link is meaningless. In the following excerpt I will highlight the salient items in yellow.

-	-	DECREASES RISK	..INCREASES RISK..
.STRONG .EVIDENCE..	.Probable––.––	.Vigorous physical activity.	.Alcoholic drinks..........

.LIMITED .EVIDENCE..

.Limited – .no.conclusion.

.Cereals (grains) and their products; dietary fibre; .potatoes; non-starchy vegetables (ER+ breast cancers); .fruits; pulses (legumes); soya and soya products; red .and processed meat; poultry; fish; eggs; fats and .oils; total fat; vegetable fat; fatty acid composition; .saturated fatty acids; mono-unsaturated fatty acids; .polyunsaturated fatty acids; trans-fatty acids; cholesterol; .sugar (sucrose); other sugars; sugary foods and drinks; .coffee; tea; carbohydrate; starch; glycaemic index; .glycaemic load; protein; vitamin A; riboflavin; vitamin .B6; folate; vitamin B12; vitamin C; vitamin D; vitamin E; .calcium supplements; iron; selenium; phytoestrogens; .isoflavones; dichlorodiphenyldichloroethylene; .dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane; dieldrin; .hexachlorobenzene; hexachlorocyclohexane; trans- .nonachlor; polychlorinated biphenyls; acrylamide; dietary .patterns; culturally defined diets; sedentary behaviour; .adult weight gain; energy intake

.4...No threshold was identified.............................................–.... ......................

In summary, then, there's strong evidence that alcoholic drinks probably increase risk but no threshold could be identified.

No threshold means anything from a drop of Angostura bitters in fizzy water with a slice of lemon (quite refreshing) to that vintage Sauternes with your afternoon trifle or even a pint of Cocoroco before breakfast. Who knows? No threshold was identified.

Probable means that although any amount of Alcoholic drinks may or may not have an effect it also may or may not have no effect.

Could anything get more vague?

Yes.

THE BLUE SECTON

This is the blue section. It's the same chart which you can read again if you'd like but this time I'm highlighting something different. In yellow as before but with blue writing.

-	-	DECREASES RISK	..INCREASES RISK..
.STRONG .EVIDENCE..	.Probable––.––	.Vigorous physical activity.	.Alcoholic drinks..........

.LIMITED–. .EVIDENCE..

.Limited – .no.conclusion.

.Cereals (grains) and their products; dietary fibre; .potatoes; non-starchy vegetables (ER+ breast cancers); .fruits; pulses (legumes); soya and soya products; red .and processed meat; poultry; fish; eggs; fats and .oils; total fat; vegetable fat; fatty acid composition; .saturated fatty acids; mono-unsaturated fatty acids; .polyunsaturated fatty acids; trans-fatty acids; cholesterol; .sugar (sucrose); other sugars; sugary foods and drinks; .coffee; tea; carbohydrate; starch; glycaemic index; .glycaemic load; protein; vitamin A; riboflavin; vitamin .B6; folate; vitamin B12; vitamin C; vitamin D; vitamin E; .calcium supplements; iron; selenium; phytoestrogens; .isoflavones; dichlorodiphenyldichloroethylene; .dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane; dieldrin; .hexachlorobenzene; hexachlorocyclohexane; trans- .nonachlor; polychlorinated biphenyls; acrylamide; dietary .patterns; culturally defined diets; sedentary behaviour; .adult weigh; energy intake

.4...No threshold was identified.............................................–.... ......................

That's right. Just when you thought it couldn't get any more nebulous up pop the culturally defined diets with LIMITED EVIDENCE that no conclusion could be drawn regarding risk factors. Let's start with France. Their culture defines a diet where wine is served to all family members regardless of age. Are French people at a greater or lesser risk level?

Betel nut. Not something I'm likely to include in a salad because it's not part of the diet my culture defines. It is. considered risky however and banned as an import in many countries. Is it risky for people whose culture defines the stuff as a valid dietary component?

Without dwelling on places where poisonous berries are consumed or toadstools or toxic fish, all within the aegis of a culturally defined diet, according to our source the level of risk is inconclusive and based on limited evidence even if it's 100% certain for anyone else to get cancer of everything.

The Bible was right.

I Corinthians 3:19 The wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.

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THE LINK.-. https://www.wcrf.org/dietandcancer/breast-cancer

THE CHART https://www.wcrf.org/sites/default/files/Premenopausal-breast-cancer-matrix.png

[Basilissa]

Re: False Religions And Cults

Drinking red wine may be correlated with some health benefits, but it does not prove that drinking red wine causes health benefits. Further, drinking red wine is correlated with an increase in certain types of cancer.

But as correlation is not causation, that may be just a meaningless correlation. OK, got it!

[tomdstone]

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that may be

And it may not be also. Until the evidence becomes substantial.
I am not sure if you can have 100% certainty of causation. It is often said that cigarette smoking causes lung cancer. There is a correlation of course and the probability of causation is high especially in the western countries. However, I know several people in Eastern Europe who were heavy smokers, but who have not died of lung cancer, and some, when they did die, died from some other cause, not lung cancer.

[Basilissa]

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And it may not be also. Until the evidence becomes substantial.
I am not sure if you can have 100% certainty of causation. It is often said that cigarette smoking causes lung cancer. There is a correlation of course and the probability of causation is high especially in the western countries. However, I know several people in Eastern Europe who were heavy smokers, but who have not died of lung cancer, and some, when they did die, died from some other cause, not lung cancer.

Well, to put it nicely, long-lasting effects of Chernobyl are more effective than meager cigarettes. Also, these people ingest such high amounts of moonshine that it probably acts as sort of preventive chemotherapy, killing all cancer cells before they can spread!

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

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Well, to put it nicely, long-lasting effects of Chernobyl are more effective than meager cigarettes.

Indeed, Sister. Secular medicine blasts cancers with radioactive material and, assuming this is effective (which I do not!) then one would expect a very much lower cancer mortality rate downwind of Chernobyl.

[OneFailure]

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The thing is that if she was so easily persuaded by a knock on the door from Russellite heretics, popularly known as JW's, and whether or not she booked in for the 5-evenings-a-week brainwashing what will happen if the hip-hoppers turn up recommending she dub some psalms or thrash Deuteronomy? Or for all I know the Upanishads or ravings of Confucius?

The next time you see her she could be anything! That's why prayer is so important. But unless you're a Christian, those prayers are useless The Bible explains. Jesus does not love us "just the way we are" because God is Jesus and He finds us revolting in our fallen condition. That's why it's necessary to torture us forever UNLESS we accept the price He paid to set us free from sin.

Not attending any Church contradicts what God has told us to do:

Hebrews 10:24-29 Let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching. For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

False religions teach all sorts of rubbish, play "Christian rock music" (obviously there's no such thing) or even celebrate demonic festivals in the guise of cultural enrichment. Cults are narrower, the JW's being a good example, and yet even from inside so stifling a congregation people have been rescued.

Its 2019 and shes still with the JWs I tried debating her but...no good came of it

[Jim C. Lombardo]

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Its 2019 and shes still with the JWs I tried debating her but...no good came of it

Some good could come from better grammar and making a lick of sense.

[MitzaLizalor]

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Its 2019 and shes still with the JWs I tried debating her but...no good came of it

Sadly what the JoBo's do cannot qualify as "debating." All you can hope for is to get her away from her handlers. I'm glad you appreciate what a rotten cult they are. They even have their own "Bible!"

How did you decide their teachings were false?

[OneFailure]

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Some good could come from better grammar and making a lick of sense.

I know I should've used grammar check before posting that :/

[OneFailure]

Re: False Religions And Cults

Sadly what the JoBo's do cannot qualify as "debating." All you can hope for is to get her away from her handlers. I'm glad you appreciate what a rotten cult they are. They even have their own "Bible!"

How did you decide their teachings were false?

Exactly they are vile with the abuse accusations and the false teachings. Their bible is a mockery of the original holy texts from the Torah and the holy Bible. Yes all I can do is try to show her what they are really like.


I decided that they were false after watching YouTube videos that expose the dirty details about Watchtower and JW tactics and what JWs do against children and watched videos on the changes they made in the bible

[MitzaLizalor]

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changes they made in the bible

. .. .They're not the first to do that.

It's said that once Hebrew became an extinct language and whatever Scriptures could be gleaned were done into Greek (for the time being (then)) and later (about 15 hundred years later) rehashed into Hebrew after a good chunk of the vocabulary had been forgotten but who cares? So long as their text proclaims Jesus NOT to have been The Messiah or virgin births to have had NO currency in Judaism or even that divine impregnations are UTTERLY pagan and (in this context) CONTRADICTED by Scriptures unless translated into Greek centuries later with an agenda in mind.


. . I'm just interested: what do you think that agenda could be?

[OneFailure]

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. .. .They're not the first to do that.

It's said that once Hebrew became an extinct language and whatever Scriptures could be gleaned were done into Greek (for the time being (then)) and later (about 15 hundred years later) rehashed into Hebrew after a good chunk of the vocabulary had been forgotten but who cares? So long as their text proclaims Jesus NOT to have been The Messiah or virgin births to have had NO currency in Judaism or even that divine impregnations are UTTERLY pagan and (in this context) CONTRADICTED by Scriptures unless translated into Greek centuries later with an agenda in mind.


. . I'm just interested: what do you think that agenda could be?

I honestly dont know what that agenda could be :/

[Dennis Lukes]

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I honestly dont know what that agenda could be :/

You're stumped, huh? Heretical texts spreading hateful lies about Jesus? Denying that He is the Messiah? Written in Hebrew? You have absolutely no idea which evil group's agenda this might be serving?


Who on earth could it be?

[OneFailure]

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You're stumped, huh? Heretical texts spreading hateful lies about Jesus? Denying that He is the Messiah? Written in Hebrew? You have absolutely no idea which evil group's agenda this might be serving?


Who on earth could it be?

I mean I know those holy scriptures books they have do have heretical messages Yes! And I do think they are a brainwashed cult but I dont think they are serving Satan or anything they are just really weird!


Now the child abuse stuff that's going on with the JWs is sick no doubt about that and I think Satan is definitely causing them to do that

[Dennis Lukes]

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Now the child abuse stuff that's going on with the JWs is sick no doubt about that and I think Satan is definitely causing them to do that

No, not the Jehovah's Witnesses! Are you trolling right now? Those door-to-door creeps are indeed servants of Satan, but they're not the ones I'm talking about.


However, you're getting warmer. "JWs" is EXTREMELY close to the name of the true villains I'm talking about.