[Patriarch Jon]

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'tis not the bible that is wrong, but the fallible interpretation of man. Perhaps you have been listening to the wrong people.

[WindsAglow]

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'tis not the bible that is wrong, but the fallible interpretation of man. Perhaps you have been listening to the wrong people.

I'm sorry if this seems dim-witted, but is this a response to Jon or Serenity?

[Serenity-Millennium]

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So then you think that the Bible is wrong?

Yes, Pastor, but the Bible also says that God's love endures forever (Psalm 106:1)! It's true no man comes to the Father but by Him, but everyone DOES come to Him, I think.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Yes, Pastor, but the Bible also says that God's love endures forever (Psalm 106:1)! It's true no man comes to the Father but by Him, but everyone DOES come to Him, I think.

God's love endures forever FOR THOSE WHO ARE SAVED.

God doesn't love sodomites, witches, or those who worship other gods...To name but a few.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

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American Televangelism which distorts the word of Christ and worships money...

...nay more ?

You have a lot of nerve saying that American Televangelists (such as myself) are adherents to a false religion! I am a True Christian(tm). I believe in the KJV 1611 through and through and am not afraid of going on television and telling people what the Bible really says! Admittedly, there are some false Christians out there on TV (Benny Hinn, for example) but to lump a morally straight, Bible-believing man like myself with that charlatan is truly an insult!

I may be a very rich man, but I do not worship money. The Good Lord has seen that my hard work and efforts to convert the unsaved masses to True Christianity(tm) have paid off for me. Yes, I have a mansion overlooking the Pacific coast, a Mercedes Benz SL65 AMG, my own RV, custom 14k gold Rolexes, Louis Vuitton luggage, etc. but only because they're small tokens of appreciation the Lord has given me for reaching out to millions of people around the globe and telling them the Good News that Jesus Christ has risen and that He is our Lord and Savior! Praise Jesus!!!

[Serenity-Millennium]

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God's love endures forever FOR THOSE WHO ARE SAVED.

God doesn't love sodomites, witches, or those who worship other gods...To name but a few.

Yes, but He loved David and Jonathon, even though they were men in love with each other. And he loved the Three Wise Men, even though they were pagan astrologers. He probably even loved the Witch and Endor, since He let Saul get resurrected when she performed a magic spell.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

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He probably even loved the Witch and Endor, since He let Saul get resurrected when she performed a magic spell.

Please keep the conversation on topic and stop talking about Return of the Jedi.

BTW, David and Jonathan were good friends, nothing more. The wise men (the Bible doesn't say how many) weren't astrologers. Following a star in the sky doesn't make you an astrologer, just an astute observer.

[Serenity-Millennium]

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Yeah, but I believe God wants us to study astrology!

14-15 God spoke: "Lights! Come out!
Shine in Heaven's sky!
Separate Day from Night.
Mark seasons and days and years,
Lights in Heaven's sky to give light to Earth."
And there it was.

And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years.

[Nurse Clampett]

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Yeah, but I believe God wants us to study astrology!

14-15 God spoke: "Lights! Come out!
Shine in Heaven's sky!
Separate Day from Night.
Mark seasons and days and years,
Lights in Heaven's sky to give light to Earth."
And there it was.

And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years.

Deuteronomy 18:9-14 (King James Version)


9When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations.
10There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.
11Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
12For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.
13Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God.
14For these nations, which thou shalt possess, hearkened unto observers of times, and unto diviners: but as for thee, the LORD thy God hath not suffered thee so to do.

Isaiah 47:13-15 (King James Version)


13Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee.
14Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to sit before it.
15Thus shall they be unto thee with whom thou hast laboured, even thy merchants, from thy youth: they shall wander every one to his quarter; none shall save thee.

[Serenity-Millennium]

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Yes, but shouldn't we focus on the positive side of things?

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

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Yes, but shouldn't we focus on the positive side of things?

Nurse Clampett gives you Scripture to directly contradict your bogus claim and this is all you can say?

[Serenity-Millennium]

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Judges 5: 19-23 The kings came, they fought,
the kings of Canaan fought.
At Taanach they fought, at Megiddo's brook,
but they took no silver, no plunder.
The stars in the sky joined the fight,
from their courses they fought against Sisera.
The torrent Kishon swept them away,
the torrent attacked them, the torrent Kishon.
Oh, you'll stomp on the necks of the strong!
Then the hoofs of the horses pounded,
charging, stampeding stallions.
"Curse Meroz," says God's angel.
"Curse, double curse, its people,
Because they didn't come when God needed them,
didn't rally to God's side with valiant fighters."



20They fought from heaven; the stars in their courses fought against Sisera.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

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No, that is not a Biblical confirmation to practice astrology. You can say that "the stars in their courses" is a reference to astrology, and even concede that the Bible is saying astrology works....HOWEVER, the verse that Nurse quoted made it abundantly clear not to dabble in astrology, which comes under "divination".

Just because the Bible says astrology can be used to foretell things, doesn't mean we should use it. There is nothing in that quote you gave us that would support that the Bible tolerates our use of astrology. None, whatsoever.

[Serenity-Millennium]

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Luke 21: 25-26"It will seem like all hell has broken loose—sun, moon, stars, earth, sea, in an uproar and everyone all over the world in a panic, the wind knocked out of them by the threat of doom, the powers-that-be quaking.



25And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

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Luke 21: 25-26"It will seem like all hell has broken loose—sun, moon, stars, earth, sea, in an uproar and everyone all over the world in a panic, the wind knocked out of them by the threat of doom, the powers-that-be quaking.



25And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

Pastor Ezekiel told you to quote from the KJV. When you are quoting from this paraphrased version, you are not quoting exact Scripture! You are quoting an (wrong) interpretation of it. PLEASE, for now on, quote from the 1611 KJV.

Even in your paraphrased Bible, there is no astrology here. Signs in the sun, moon, and stars doesn't mean astrology or horoscopes...it means you'll see visible signs! They will behave erratically.

What part of
"There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.
11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer."
do you not get?