[treenager]

Re: Someone explain your religion please

And the point of that is?

Surly its a sign of you being wrong if your trying to ban me rather then check the statement i made? If so i feel you are showing a great sign of weakness in you and your faith you so claim to practice.

If jesus was here i dont think hed ban me on a forum...would he? No he would be calm and civil...then again he didnt write the bible, if your bible was written in the 1600's then Jeus COULDNT have written it, man must have, and you must know that no man is perfect, and every man has flaws.

One who cant admit flaws is surly ignorent and misguided

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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However "friend" and i use the term lightly due do your very hateful tone towards me, if you knew anything about Islam like you said youd know that muslims believe in the same god the christians and jewish people do. How can you call what i believe gibberish but cant defend contradictions in your own holy book?

Your bible didnt exist in the time of jesus...so does that mean everything he taught was wrong? or the generation after that? IF your bible was right it would have been the original version and would have stuck, and not "appeared" in the 1600's

It did not "Appear" in the 1600 - it has been around since Christ ascended to Heaven (unlike your Muhamid, he did not require a horse to do it because horses are not allowed in heaven.) That is some 600 years before your fairytale appeared.

You need to read THIS to get your history straight.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Someone explain your religion please

Friend, we do not hate anyone. It is you and your religious fanatical muslim compadres that spread hate around the world. 99.99% of every intelligent being when asked when on a plane, who would they rather sit next to, a Godly Christian person or a muslim, will invariably pick the Godly Christian. You know this to be true. Do you ever hear about panic attacks because some is a good Christian? No, of course not. But nary a week goes by without a major episode involving an radical muslim.

You know your yapping is gibberish and you also know there are no contradictions in the KJV1611 Bible. Show me one!

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Someone explain your religion please

You mock me for a few typing errors? Sorry I'm not flawless like you. He visited my school in 2007 to deliver a lecture. And you understand my vocal skills and my typed skills have no relationship with each other, when one is rushing to type a reply, one is bound to make mistakes.

So what if you managed to defeat some evil lying atheist. As if a two year old isn't smarter than someone who actually believes in evolution

So by the actions of a few people you think the rest of us...over 2 billion are all bomb wearing terrorists...if that is the case, i sincerely fear for what the world has become, how ignorant some people are. Manchester england 1996 there was a terrorist attack carried out by christian extremists in the IRA.....no Christians blowing themselves up i hear?

The IRA is a Catholic group. Catholics aren't Christians.

I am not bashing anything..i came here to learn, and simply replying to how you people come across, posts like that dont help your case, of course i expect you to believe your religion is right...but please dont be so narrow minded to think its perfect in every single aspect

Do you hold the same criteria for your own religion?

a quick flaw i have to reference, like i said i have read parts of the bible..it is by no means perfect..unless there is some deeper meaning to what i just posted.

Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?

(a) God did (2 Samuel 24: 1)

(b) Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1)"

Great, so you managed to find some atheist website that points out supposed mistakes in the Bible.

Let us look at the two passages in question:

1 Chronicles 21:1
Now Satan stood up against Israel, and moved David to number Israel.

2 Samuel 24:1
Again the anger of the LORD was aroused against Israel, and He moved David against them to say, "Go, number Israel and Judah."

We are told that God does not tempt man to commit sin (James 1:13), however, Scripture often describes God as doing what He has permitted to be done. Such is the case here, as God allowed Satan to tempt David (see examples in Exodus 7:13; 1 Samuel 26:19; 2 Samuel 16:10; Psalm 105:25). By God's absence (for he was angry against Israel), and Satan's activity in provoking David to do evil, David was moved to number the children of Israel.

Note, as we look at the case of Job, one might conclude that God brought turmoil upon Job, as Satan came before the presence of the Lord, asking that he might test Job (Job 1:6-12; 2:1-6). God permitted Satan to lay trial after trial upon Job, but consider what Job thought concerning the things which were upon him (Job 1:21; 2:9-10). Consider also the perspective of Job's friends (Job 5:17). Surely it is clear, God is at times spoken of as the cause of those things which He allows to take place.

There is no contradiction.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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[...] if your bible was written in the 1600's then Jeus COULDNT have written it, man must have, and you must know that no man is perfect, and every man has flaws.

Have you read what I posted? The KJV1611 was printed in 1611. God was fed up of the Catholics printing the wrong things in it - He gave King James the perfect version.

This perfect version is the complete and perfect Word of God as was recorded 1000s of years ago in the Old Testament and shortly after the temporary death of Jesus in the New Testament.

One who cant admit flaws is surly ignorent and misguided

There are NO flaws in the Bible!

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Someone explain your religion please

well ...its a pretty dire contradiction..to say in one place God caused something then in another satan caused the same thing?

Another contradiction i have found: How can you support something that isnt certain of what facts are true?

How many fighting men were found in Judah?

(a) Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)

(b) Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)

The figures in 1 Chronicles are 1,100,000 men in Israel and 470,000 in Judah, but the chronicler wrote that the Levites and Benjamites were not included (1 Chron. 21:5-6). The reconciliation of the data may lie in the possibility that 1,100,000 describes the grand total for Israel including the standing army which consisted of 12 units of 24,000 men each (288,000, 1 Chron. 27:1-15) plus 12,000 especially attached to Jerusalem and the chariot cities (2 Chron. 1:14). These 300,000 subtracted from 1,100,000 would yield the 800,000 figure in 2 Samuel 24:9. Also the chronicler may not have included the 30,000-man standing army of Judah (6:1) whereas they were included in chapter 24. This would raise the 470,000 total of Chronicles to the 500,000 of Samuel. This is only one solution, but with so little information available as to how the sums were obtained nothing further can be said with certainty.

[treenager]

Re: Someone explain your religion please

Have you read what I posted? The KJV1611 was printed in 1611. God was fed up of the Catholics printing the wrong things in it - He gave King James the perfect version.

This perfect version is the complete and perfect Word of God as was recorded 1000s of years ago in the Old Testament and shortly after the temporary death of Jesus in the New Testament.

There are NO flaws in the Bible!

So if King James got the perfect bible...you stick by the theory that the royalty in England is Divine? If so what happened to royalty before him such as henry the 8th. Why would God in any instance LET the catholics print a wrong version..and if he got sick of them, is it so bold to say he didnt get sick of Christianity as a whole like he did with the jews and created a new religion

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Someone explain your religion please

However "friend" and i use the term lightly due do your very hateful tone towards me, if you knew anything about Islam like you said youd know that muslims believe in the same god the christians and jewish people do. How can you call what i believe gibberish but cant defend contradictions in your own holy book?

http://www.apologeticsindex.org/670-islam-christians-same-god

[James Hutchins]

Re: Someone explain your religion please

Any of you notice how our good friend 'tre' finds it impossible to respond to my posts without try to change the question? He knows he is living a life of lies and is vainly attempting to justify his existence. He knows he 'threw away the keys' to redemption by the True God.

[treenager]

Re: Someone explain your religion please

side note... i noticed the churches Wikipedia page says its all fake...explains a lot

infact not just from wiki...every site seems to say that...

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Someone explain your religion please

Yes we are. So you can see how serious we are about converting you from your moon-worshipping cult to accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. Would you like to pray with me right now so that Jesus can enter your heart?

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Someone explain your religion please

And yes Jesus was a Jew...he was born and raised in Israel, where there was no other religion,

Read this: http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=10278

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Someone explain your religion please

side note... i noticed the churches Wikipedia page says its all genuine...explains a lot

infact not just from wiki...every site seems to say that...

THIS is the original page: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...ldid=173411728

What you see is the results of amoral atheists and Democrats vandalizing the entry.

The rest of the sites you see have just copied out what is in the desecrated Wiki page.

As you will see, the wiki page refers to Landover.ORG not, Landover.net.

[casey the pagan wimp]

Re: Someone explain your religion please

Well, 'tre', your choice of religion is wrong. It promotes violence and hatred. Christianity promotes love and understanding. There is a difference.

It does? Oh of course! These people are very understanding!

[Reykjavik]

Re: Someone explain your religion please

I am happy to explain my faith. I believe that God exists, but not the god of any religion I know of. All of the evidence that I find points to us, and our world existing because of the big bang, and all of that other stuff that would take forever to explain. However, there is no scientific evidence of matter or energy being able to spontaneously begin to exist. In fact, nothing in our universe can spontaneously begin to exist, so my conclusion, is that something outside of the universe, that is not governed by the laws of this universe must have created it. That something is beyond classification as being someone or something, as far as I am concerned.

I don't know much about your religion Tre, could you explain the basics?