[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Is Landover Baptist Church a CULT?

"People" like you are the reason we can't have world peace.

God invented peace. The world "can't have peace" because people like you refuse to acknowledge His sovereignty and worship Him.

Homosexuality was a normal part of life in the ancient Rome until christian-rule tainted them.

Homosexuality is a perversion. Your want to bring back bestiality, too?

Wearing strange apparel I see no problem with.

Knock yerself out.

And not letting women speak in church? Really? Are you really so daft as to not let one of your own kind speak her beliefs in your place of worship?

I'm grateful to not have to worry about such responsibilities. I get respect from True Christian™ men for my pies. I share my pies cheerfully and people love me for that. That's better than pretending to be a man.

[andrewsymonds]

Re: Is Landover Baptist Church a CULT?

Preaching the word of God is the ONLY thing. If God hates people who don't follow His word and indulge in gay sex, wearing strange apparel and allowing women to speak in the Church then who am I to argue?
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"People" like you are the reason we can't have world peace. Homosexuality was a normal part of life in the ancient Rome until christian-rule tainted them. Wearing strange apparel I see no problem with. And not letting women speak in church? Really? Are you really so daft as to not let one of your own kind speak her beliefs in your place of worship?

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Is Landover Baptist Church a CULT?

Preaching the word of God is the ONLY thing. If God hates people who don't follow His word and indulge in gay sex, wearing strange apparel and allowing women to speak in the Church then who am I to argue?
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[Jack O'fagan]

Re: Is Landover Baptist Church a CULT?

THOMAS DALTON
"How can anyone think we're a cult?
I'm sure a Reverend would warn me if there was something wrong with this church, wouldn't he? I don't know Thomas, WOULD HE??? I'm sure they would follow the Scripture." You're sure????

I think you should READ some of the posts placed by people of your so called "church" I have NEVER seen such mean and rude negative RACIST comments from a "Christian" organization.

Preaching the word of God is one thing. Slamming people who DO believe in God and Jesus because they are not Baptist??? What makes yours so perfect. Not too much from what I have read.

If you can find any opinion of a True Christian that is not justified Biblically please let me know. I think that the problem is that most people hear about the word of God when they are infants. It has to be very basic to fit into their small minds. Most so called Christians do not move on from this position. They do not move on to read the Bible fully. Even the preachers are working on the infants version of Christianity. They do not use their God given brains and that is why they will roast for eternity.

If you can tell me of ONE more Biblically correct church on the entire Earth then I will apologise and leave the congregation of Landover.

Over to you,



YIC

Jack

[Ynot1968]

Re: Is Landover Baptist Church a CULT?

THOMAS DALTON
"How can anyone think we're a cult?
I'm sure a Reverend would warn me if there was something wrong with this church, wouldn't he? I don't know Thomas, WOULD HE??? I'm sure they would follow the Scripture." You're sure????

I think you should READ some of the posts placed by people of your so called "church" I have NEVER seen such mean and rude negative RACIST comments from a "Christian" organization.

Preaching the word of God is one thing. Slamming people who DO believe in God and Jesus because they are not Baptist??? What makes yours so perfect. Not too much from what I have read.

[Thomas Dalton]

Re: Is Landover Baptist Church a CULT?

How can anyone think we're a cult?
I'm sure a Reverend would warn me if there was something wrong with this church, wouldn't he? I'm sure they would follow the Scripture.

Ezekiel 3:18
When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Is Landover Baptist Church a CULT?

This thread has gotten so far off topic that I thought reposting the original post would be useful.

As our long-absent friend explained, there are particular characteristics cults possess. You will note that not a single one of them applies here.

Ah, we've heard the accusation many times. So, I've decided to have a look on the web, so we can compare LBC to "cults".

Here's a list from a SECULAR source, with my comments in red:


Quote:
Ask yourself if the following criteria apply to the group you are concerned about.

1. A destructive cult tends to be totalitarian in its control of its members' behavior. Cults are likely to dictate in great detail not only what members believe, but also what members wear and eat, when and where members work, sleep, and bathe, and how members think, speak, and conduct familial, marital, or sexual relationships. Landover Baptist Church dictates no aspect of any member's behavior. Instead, we require that members follow the KJV1611 Bible, God's Holy Word. We do not change, "interpret", or otherwise alter God's Word. God and Jesus tell us, through God's Word, exactly what members are to do, wear, eat, what forms of sexual relations are appropriate and which are abominations in His eyes, etc. (Leviticus and Deuteronomy, Romans)
2. A destructive cult tends to have an ethical double standard. Members are urged to be obedient to the cult, to carefully follow cult rules. They are also encouraged to be revealing and open in the group, confessing all to the leaders. On the other hand, outside the group they are encouraged to act unethically, manipulating outsiders or nonmembers, and either deceiving them or simply revealing very little about themselves or the group. In contrast to destructive cults, honorable groups teach members to abide by one set of ethics and act ethically and truthfully to all people in all situations. Unlike Muslims, who are told in the Koran that it's OK to break their word when dealing with nonbelievers, we expect our brothers and sisters to be as honest and ethical with each other and with nonbelievers as God has always shown Himself to be with humanity. EVERY BIT!
3. A destructive cult has only two basic purposes: recruiting new members and fund-raising. Altruistic movements, established religions, and other honorable groups also recruit and raise funds. However, these actions are incidental to an honorable group's main purpose of improving the lives of its members and of humankind in general. Destructive cults may claim to make social contributions, but in actuality such claims are superficial and only serve as gestures or fronts for recruiting and fund-raising. A cult's real goal is to increase the prestige and often the wealth of the leader. We have very clear-cut charitable programs outlined on the www.landoverbaptist.org website; further, while Pastor Deacon Fred is the current head of the Church on Earth, we only recognize Jesus as the true Leader. Jesus directed us to go forth and spread the Good News to all nations, and to win souls to follow Him, by any means necessary! (Matthew 10:27, Mark 5:19, for example)
4. A destructive cult appears to be innovative and exclusive. The leader claims to be breaking with tradition, offering something novel, and instituting the ONLY viable system for change that will solve life's problems or the world's ills. But these claims are empty and only used to recruit members who are then surreptitiously subjected to mind control to inhibit their ability to examine the actual validity of the claims of the leader and the cult.We don't claim any of these things. We follow the 1611 King James Bible; certainly not an innovative idea, and we don't exclude anyone. We do not claim that Christianity is the only system for change that will work; we only state that, as the Bible clearly indicates, Christianity IS the ONLY viable system for those who wish to avoid eternal Hellfire. Jesus told us this Himself! (John 3:15-16, Matthew 5:29, Matthew 10:28, Matthew 23:3, Luke 13:3, Revelation 20:13-14)
5. A destructive cult is authoritarian in its power structure. The leader is regarded as the supreme authority. He or she may delegate certain power to a few subordinates for the purpose of seeing that members adhere to the leader's wishes. There is no appeal outside his or her system to a greater system of justice. For example, if a schoolteacher feels unjustly treated by a principal, an appeal can be made to the superintendent. In a destructive cult, the leader claims to have the only and final ruling on all matters. Again, our true Leader is Jesus Christ. No member of the Church has supreme power, as God and Jesus have complete control. In no way would we or our Earthly leaders question God's Holy Word, which has complete authority in all matters.
6. A destructive cult's leader is a self-appointed messianic person claiming to have a special mission in life. For example, leaders of flying saucer cults claim that beings from outer space have commissioned them to lead people away from Earth, so that only the leaders can save them from impending doom. Pastor Deacon Fred makes no claims of Divinity, as this would be blasphemy. Rather, Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God. He said so Himself, in the Bible! Look it up, if you wish. I'll wait. (John 4:25-26, among others)
7. A destructive cult's leader centers the veneration of members upon himself or herself. Priests, rabbis, ministers, democratic leaders, and other leaders of genuinely altruistic movements focus the veneration of adherents on God or a set of ethical principles. Cult leaders, in contrast, keep the focus of love, devotion, and allegiance on themselves. We direct members to love God and Jesus, not Pastor Deacon Fred. (Not that we object to people loving Pastor Deacon Fred, but God and Jesus must always come first!) God, in fact, states in the Ten Commandments, "Thou shalt have no gods before me"! Clearly, all the glory must go to God and to Jesus, his Son, the Messiah (see #6).
8. A destructive cult's leader tends to be determined, domineering, and charismatic. Such a leader effectively persuades followers to abandon or alter their families, friends, and careers to follow the cult. The leader then takes control over followers' possessions, money, time, and lives. We at LBC do not persuade anyone to abandon their families, friends, or careers. Jesus directly states that only those who give their belongings to the poor (or, more logically, a church which can invest those assets into existing and proven social services programs), give up their families and all else, and follow Him are worthy of Heaven (Matthew 16:24, Mark 10:21, Luke 9:23, Luke 14:26).

As can be plainly seen by a review of this eight-point "warning list" for destructive cults, Landover Baptist Church fits NO definition of a cult whatsoever! So all you outsiders can relax, stop suing us for "taking your children away", or stop complaining that your aged parents gave Landover "your" inheritance. (Did YOU earn it? No, I didn't think so. GOD did.)

Landover Baptist Church is NOT a cult. QED.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Is Landover Baptist Church a CULT?

This is ridiculous. You call this a church? You think that being a church is that you can harshly criticize other people''s religions?

Deuteronomy 13:6-10If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die.

2 Chronicles 15:13 Whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.

John 15:6 "If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned."

2 Thessalonians 1:8 "In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:"

If I remember correctly, my church never threatened anyone who didn't believe in God.

Then it was not doing the Work of The Lord and thus was not a church, merely a social gathering place for the degenerates of the district.

I'll have you know that we treat God's enemies well - There is a large and growing burial ground for them on some Injun land, 10 miles east of Landover.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Is Landover Baptist Church a CULT?

I would love to hug the ever loving Jesus

Stop going to boot-fetishist homosexual gang bangs and maybe He will let you.

By the way . . . Ew.

[bootparty]

Re: Is Landover Baptist Church a CULT?

No, I think that being a church means that you tell people that they are doing things that will earn them an eternity of torment in God's Lake of Fire.

Why do you hate non-Christians and want them to suffer?


No True Christian™ has threatened anyone. We just tell them what the Bible says.

Apparently, your "church" was too good for God's Word?

Or maybe your "church" thinks that people being resurrected from the dead by God, so He may burn them alive in His Lake of Fire for all eternity, is a GOOD thing.

Why are you such a sick, hateful monster who wants every non-Christian to suffer eternal torment?

I would love to hug the ever loving Jesus

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Is Landover Baptist Church a CULT?

This is ridiculous. You call this a church? You think that being a church is that you can harshly criticize other people''s religions?

No, I think that being a church means that you tell people that they are doing things that will earn them an eternity of torment in God's Lake of Fire.

Why do you hate non-Christians and want them to suffer?

If I remember correctly, my church never threatened anyone who didn't believe in God.

No True Christian(tm) has threatened anyone. We just tell them what the Bible says.

Apparently, your "church" was too good for God's Word?

Or maybe your "church" thinks that people being resurrected from the dead by God, so He may burn them alive in His Lake of Fire for all eternity, is a GOOD thing.

Why are you such a sick, hateful monster who wants every non-Christian to suffer eternal torment?

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Is Landover Baptist Church a CULT?

This is ridiculous. You call this a church? You think that being a church is that you can harshly criticize other people''s religions? If I remember correctly, my church never threatened anyone who didn't believe in God. This is discrimination at best! You people have lowered yourselves to the lowest of the low. It may not be a cult, but this sure isn't a church. There needs to be a new word to define what this is. I think i'll call it "Landover". And to me, that's even worse than a cult.

Odd how you are criticising our faith...

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: Is Landover Baptist Church a CULT?

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This is ridiculous. You call this a church? You think that being a church is that you can harshly criticize other people''s religions? If I remember correctly, my church never threatened anyone who didn't believe in God. This is discrimination at best! You people have lowered yourselves to the lowest of the low. It may not be a cult, but this sure isn't a church. There needs to be a new word to define what this is. I think i'll call it "Landover". And to me, that's even worse than a cult.

Your church never criticised atheist or other faiths? Why did they hate Jesus so much?

YiC

Jack

[RyanBaker40]

Re: Is Landover Baptist Church a CULT?

This is ridiculous. You call this a church? You think that being a church is that you can harshly criticize other people''s religions? If I remember correctly, my church never threatened anyone who didn't believe in God. This is discrimination at best! You people have lowered yourselves to the lowest of the low. It may not be a cult, but this sure isn't a church. There needs to be a new word to define what this is. I think i'll call it "Landover". And to me, that's even worse than a cult.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Is Landover Baptist Church a CULT?

I am shinto, I believe in God and many spirits and all should be at peace, love the land the spirits of the trees and God's living soul :kitty

You're shinto but you believe in the Christian God? Wow, there is no end to the level you atheists/demons will stoop to in order to harass our Christian board, is there.