How will the unsaved react to being tossed into the Lake of Fire?

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

While I was locked away in the wine cellar this past weekend, I had a few minutes between Bible study and prayer to ponder some things. One of those things is how I can never understand why anyone would want to turn their back on God and willingly submit to eternal damnation, and this led me to wonder how they will react come Judgement Day.
When you come face-to-face with Jesus and find out your name isn't written in the Book of Life, how do you think you will react?

[Arcticdawn]

Re: How will the unsaved react to being tossed into the Lake of F

Why fear something you don't believe? Why believe in something you can't see? You have to remember, when trying to understand someone, you must be able to see things from their perspective. No one in their right mind would look at a lake of burning death and jump in.

No, what you're seeing is people closing their eyes, being led to such a lake, then having their eyes opened just as they hit the fire. They choose not to believe in this punishment (and other aspects of Christianity) for many reasons - whether it be from a rebellious personality, a non Christian upbringing, a total lack of care, or the embrace of a lifestyle that they see as incompatible with that of one who adheres to Christianity, a belief that a person can avoid eternal damnation, despite their actions, et cetera.

Faith is a belief in things hoped for, but not seen. If a person has no Faith in God, His Justice, and His Mercy, they can't really be afraid of the consequences of disobeying His Word. Why would they? To them, it's just like being afraid of the Bogeyman or the Easter Bunny - something they've heard about, but don't believe in.

To someone who believes in the Eternal Judgement to come, it's a foolish notion to set at naught God's Commandments - which is where you're coming from. Looking at it through the other person's eyes, though, they have nothing to worry about because it simply isn't a part of their paradigm.

In the end, only God will have a say in the Judgement. I imagine there will be alot of weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth, as it were, but we'll have to see when we get there.

[nikilds]

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Sometimes I ponder too.

I wonder if, in Heaven, we'll be able to see how the sinners are burning in Hell? Or will we even care? I mean, it's too late after you're dead.

But I wonder if their ever burning souls will be, like, Heaven's version of the sickular world's scary movies?

[SalvationSeeker]

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I wonder if, in Heaven, we'll be able to see how the sinners are burning in Hell? Or will we even care? I mean, it's too late after you're dead.

Yes, we can see them.. and they us. (Luke 16:23-25)
But we will not mourn them, we will shine forth as the sun! (Matthew 13:40-43)

But I wonder if their ever burning souls will be, like, Heaven's version of the sickular world's scary movies?

Whatever it will be, it will most surely be a GLORIOUS sight to behold!
Heaven, including it's peeping window towards hell, is surely more glorious than anything we could ever imagine.
Praise Jesus!

[Arcticdawn]

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I doubt we'll be worthy of Heaven if we are too hardened to care that there are those cast out of God's presence because of their poor choices. After all, if a family member made a mistake and landed in jail, wouldn't you still feel sorry for them? Are we not still commanded to love them?

I've seen no Doctrine that indicates that we no longer need to love all of our brethren once we've died, regardless of their location or situation. Taking joy or having apathy in their suffering is by no means a demonstration or symptom of love.

[Daisy Mae Johnson]

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Yes, we can see them.. and they us. (Luke 16:23-25)
But we will not mourn them, we will shine forth as the sun! (Matthew 13:40-43)


Whatever it will be, it will most surely be a GLORIOUS sight to behold!
Heaven, including it's peeping window towards hell, is surely more glorious than anything we could ever imagine.
Praise Jesus!

GLORY Brother SS. I can't wait to see Rosie O'Donnell's giant gaping hole of a mouth be filled with Satan's scalding hot sulpheric rage......over and over ... forever and ever AMEN!

Then we can watch all the homers with the Aids limbs all fall off from rot and have a laugh riot watching them trying to fruitlessly reattached them over and over again. Oh my! that will be such a hoot!

with Lve and compassion, Sister Thumper

[SalvationSeeker]

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I doubt we'll be worthy of Heaven if we are too hardened to care that there are those cast out of God's presence because of their poor choices.

We won't care about them then, as they've made their choice.
Do you believe God is unfair in His judgements? Because feeling sorry for them then is just that:
To pass judgement on God, believing Him unfair.

After all, if a family member made a mistake and landed in jail, wouldn't you still feel sorry for them? Are we not still commanded to love them?

We're not commanded to love them at all, the opposite.
If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters,
Yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
Luke 14:26

I've seen no Doctrine that indicates that we no longer need to love all of our brethren once we've died, regardless of their location or situation. Taking joy or having apathy in their suffering is by no means a demonstration or symptom of love.

Our brethren? We TRUE BELIEVERS are brothers! No-one else.
We're not brothers with the unsaved as we're children of God, while they're children of Satan. (John 8:43-47)
Light has no communion with darkness, and Christ has no concord with belial/satan! (2 Corinthians 6:14-15)

The Lord Jesus Himself said it the best:
But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?
And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
Matthew 12:48-50

Are you some kind of lieberal sissy-boy FALSE "Christian", Artic?
What Church are you from? One of those sodomite marrying ones?

GLORY Brother SS. I can't wait to see Rosie O'Donnell's giant gaping hole of a mouth be filled with Satan's scalding hot sulpheric rage......over and over ... forever and ever AMEN!

That sounds glorious indeed, sister.
As for me, I SIMPLY CAN'T WAIT to see all the popes.. forever burning and screaming in pain as demons sodomize them! Glory!

[Arcticdawn]

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Actually, SS, I'm going to have to disagree with you.

While yes, we are to love God first (above familiy and friends), we are indeed commanded - in many, many places (some of which to follow) to love all Children of God - wayward or not.

1John 4:11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.

1John 4:20 If a man say, I love God, and ahateth his bbrother, he is a cliar: for he that loveth not his dbrother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not eseen?

John 15:12 This is my commandment, That ye alove one another, as I have bloved you.

Mark 12:30-31
30 And thou shalt alove the Lord thy God with all thy bheart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy cstrength: this is the first commandment.

31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

Luke 6:27 ¶ But I say unto you which hear, aLove your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
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That's pretty black and white. If you read around those scriptures for context, you'll find it's fairly direct in it's meaning (quotes from KJV).

As far as Religion, I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I am quite conservative in my philosophies.

[The Jabba Master]

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None of the Above. If im sent down there I'll Turn tword the devel and Charge him and insight others to join me in fighting him and his demons

[Bobby-Joe]

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None of the Above. If im sent down there I'll Turn tword the devel and Charge him and insight others to join me in fighting him and his demons

That ought to be worth some in dinner entertainment.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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I doubt we'll be worthy of Heaven if we are too hardened to care that there are those cast out of God's presence because of their poor choices. After all, if a family member made a mistake and landed in jail, wouldn't you still feel sorry for them? Are we not still commanded to love them?

Dear friend:

We have a whole thread on that very topic.

[SalvationSeeker]

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Actually, SS, I'm going to have to disagree with you.

You're not in disagreement with me, but with God, as you simply refuse what's in His Holy Word.

While yes, we are to love God first (above familiy and friends),

We are commanded to HATE our family.. Can't you read?
If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters,
Yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
Luke 14:26

we are indeed commanded - in many, many places (some of which to follow) to love all Children of God - wayward or not.

Hello? Are you reading the verses I post?
Unsaved are NOT Children of God!

For ye are all the children of God BY FAITH IN CHRIST JESUS.
Galatians 3:26

So if you aren't Saved, you aren't a child of God!
Why don't you read a bit more from 1 John? Or did you miss THESE verses on purpose?

In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil:
Whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
1 John 3:10

He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning.
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
1 John 3:8

Can it really be said any clearer?
Jesus Himself compare unrepentant sinners to tares and dry branches that are fit for nothing but burning.

1John 4:11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.

1John 4:20 If a man say, I love God, and ahateth his bbrother, he is a cliar: for he that loveth not his dbrother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not eseen?

John 15:12 This is my commandment, That ye alove one another, as I have bloved you.

If you'd have read the context, you'd see that this is ONLY about our brothers:
That is, CHRISTIANS. NOT unsaved.
Because, as explained earlier, we do not have the same father as unsaved do!

31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

And who is our neighbour?

Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves?
And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise.
Luke 10:36-37

And tell me, does the world show us Christians any mercy?

And just what is it to truly hate our neighbour?
It's explained in Leviticus 19:17-18

Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart:
Thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself:
I am the LORD.
Leviticus 19:17-18

To not try and steer one's neighbour towards the path of righteousness..
Thus allowing him to walk towards damnation while there is still hope:
THAT is hating your neighbour.

Luke 6:27 ¶ But I say unto you which hear, aLove your enemies, do good to them which hate you,

Yes, but that is once again, while they are ALIVE.
(The following verses make that pretty clear.)
Further, do you know why we are to be loving towards them?
I guess 'Pastor feelgood' didn't share that with you, did he?

To make sure that they feel bad and that God's punishment over them will become all the greater! Praise!
Our kindness will become their punishment:

Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.
Romans 12:19-20

And in Luke 12:42-48, Jesus talks about punishment for them that oppose God:
And how He rewards everyone according to their works.
In the last of those verses, He explains the principle of how God rewards and punishes.

But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes.
For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required:
And to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.
Luke 12:48

So by being kind to our enemies, God's demands on them will become all the greater:
And so making His punishment of them even more terrible if they stay our enemies!

That's pretty black and white. If you read around those scriptures for context, you'll find it's fairly direct in it's meaning (quotes from KJV).

Indeed it is.
It is a meaning you obviously fail to comprehend, and are trying to twist.
You know a few verses, but you lack the deeper understanding of the Bible that comes with long study.

But you probably mean well, so stick around here, and I'm sure you'll learn alot of things from the Word of God that you didn't know before.
We'll make a proper Christian of you yet.

As far as Religion, I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I am quite conservative in my philosophies.

Does your church recognize that God hate all sinners?
Does your church recognize that all who do not come to Christ will burn forever in hell?


BTW..
I really can't even see your point anymore here, God commands us to be nice & loving to our enemies.. (I've never denied that either) but only while they're alive.
And at the same time, the scripture says that we will not pity them as they burn in hell!
So I'm afraid you have nothing supporting your position, while I have scripture for mine.

And did Abraham pity the rich man as he burned in hell?
No, he added fuel to the fire by rebuking him and ignoring his tormented cries for water.

..And you can't seriously mean that Abraham is a mean sinner, can you?
If your theory was true, how come he is even allowed in Heaven with such a "hardened" (to use your word) attitude?
I'm sorry, your theory makes no sense, and it's unBiblical.

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Re: How will the unsaved react to being tossed into the Lake of F

As far as Religion, I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I am quite conservative in my philosophies.

So as an unrepentant Mormon (and possibly a hippy), you're doomed to the fiery pits. What do you think your reaction will be as angels fling you into the fire?
As for your earlier comment, what does it matter what the unsaved claim to believe now? The question is how they will react when they discover they were wrong and it's too late to do anything about it.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

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The option I would have chosen doesn't seem to be included here.

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

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The option I would have chosen doesn't seem to be included here.

Because as much as you think you'd offer yourself up sexually, that isn't going to happen. You may be rending your clothes and gnashing your teeth, but you will not be reliving your slatternly ways.