[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: You have convinced me I was wrong about you

You know what I find funny? The whole thing with praying in schools, fundie christians like them are claiming that they are being discriminated against because there is no forced praying in public schools.
There is nothing to stop people praying in private. But it's simply been decided that, to be fair to those of different beliefs, not to have xtian prayers.

And yet people are saying this is discrimination.

How??
I mean would they like it if Pagan or Hindu prayers were enforced on their children?? No, they would protest and yell and scream. Yet everyone else is supposed to bear it and have to say prayers that are not their own beliefs?

I'm thankful for the ACLU..

[vikkio (On Moderation)]

Re: You have convinced me I was wrong about you

Exactly, if people are happy, then as long as they are not causing harm to themselves or others, or trying to push a belief down someone else's throat, then it's all good.

People like these landover fundies need to realize that, and stop trying to force their ways on others. They wouldn't like it if other people's ways were forced on them.

It does seem that part of the game here is to label and then persecute. Is a historical method of creating a chosen enemy to then "defeat" in the name of God. Given the oft claimed "Manifest Destiny" of the era of "settlement" of the 'new worlds', it was convenient to use such ideals to justify the submission and slaughter of those who were already here.

The Indians are different but not evil or heathens, and even though the idea of founding this country was to escape persecution and tyranny, it certainly did not give true freedoms to any but white males until this much later (and even then is not so very 'equal' but hey, progress is better than nothing!)

[.Sarcastic.Strawberries. (On Moderation)]

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Oh, puh-leeze, you old diesel dyke! You know damn good and well that we only put up with your garbage because you secretly believe as we do. We still have hope that one day you will get Saved® and join us. I mean, really... why else would you hang out, all day every day, with us?

Perhaps she likes the debate? The debate that is civil anyways. And you cannot read minds so how do you know she secretly thinks like all of you do? You don't. o.o If you really want to save her, calling her a diesel dyke isn't really helping in any shape or form nor will it convince her to convert to your religion at all. I wouldn't wanna convert to a religion where people once called me things like that. o.o

[Sister Rebecca]

Re: You have convinced me I was wrong about you

It does seem that part of the game here is to label and then persecute.

To what "game" exactly do you refer? We play no games here, child. We only aim to Save(R) lost souls and bring them to Jesus, like He tells us to!
If you are not one of us, you are against us. So either turn or burn dearest, for Jesus is watching you!

[vikkio (On Moderation)]

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To what "game" exactly do you refer? We play no games here, child. We only aim to Save® lost souls and bring them to Jesus, like He tells us to!
If you are not one of us, you are against us. So either turn or burn dearest, for Jesus is watching you!

Oh my! Jesus is a voyeur???

[Sister Rebecca]

Re: You have convinced me I was wrong about you

Perhaps she likes the debate? The debate that is civil anyways. And you cannot read minds so how do you know she secretly thinks like all of you do? You don't. o.o If you really want to save her, calling her a diesel dyke isn't really helping in any shape or form nor will it convince her to convert to your religion at all. I wouldn't wanna convert to a religion where people once called me things like that. o.o

Let Rachel Van-Hellbound speak for herself BOY!! I can call her whatever I wish. This is OUR forum and you are trespassing. God gave me the right to say what I wish to unsaved trash such as yourself, so DEAL WITH IT. When she is Saved(R) we will be as polite and dedicated to her as we are to each other. Until then, she is cannon fodder.

[Sister Rebecca]

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Oh my! Jesus is a voyeur???

Jesus is whatever he wants to be, but blasphemy will get you put in solitude, little girl. Watch what you say and to whom. Like I said, Jesus IS watching!

[.Sarcastic.Strawberries. (On Moderation)]

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Let Rachel Van-Hellbound speak for herself BOY!! I can call her whatever I wish. This is OUR forum and you are trespassing. God gave me the right to say what I wish to unsaved trash such as yourself, so DEAL WITH IT. When she is Saved® we will be as polite and dedicated to her as we are to each other. Until then, she is cannon fodder.

The only difference between you and her is your views on religion and possibly politics? But whatever, i also cannot read her mind. I will stop defending her and allow her to speak for herself.

Okay, now that thats out of the way I shall speak for MYself, if that is okay. You're allowed to think of me that way if you wish, however your opinion of me will not change the opinions of the people who truly care for me, those opinions are the only ones that matter to me. n.n So feel free to call me what you wish, and I will do as you say and "deal with it."

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: You have convinced me I was wrong about you

Perhaps she likes the debate?

Exactly.
That, and these people's silliness can be both funny and scary to watch.

The debate that is civil anyways. And you cannot read minds so how do you know she secretly thinks like all of you do? You don't. o.o If you really want to save her, calling her a diesel dyke isn't really helping in any shape or form nor will it convince her to convert to your religion at all. I wouldn't wanna convert to a religion where people once called me things like that. o.o

Well, they should know by now that I'm happy with my beliefs. But, they do seem unusually pig-headed in trying to convert me. Ah, well, if they wanna debate with me, they can go for it.

Sister Rebecca, there's nothing wrong with this nice guy wanting to help me out. It's what nice people do, you know, help each other?

[Sister Rebecca]

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Ok, strawberry boy, if the only opinions you care about are the so-called loved ones you speak of, then how come you came searching us out for answers? It seems as if your soul is calling out to God to find Salvation(C) with us here at Landover.
Maybe you wish to convert? It would seem so.

Rachel, you know you want to join us. You know it as well as I do. Just give in and become one with God like we are! Give in!

Nice guy? Where? I only see children up WAY past their bed times.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: You have convinced me I was wrong about you

Rachel, you know you want to join us. You know it as well as I do. Just give in and become one with God like we are! Give in!

I can't even imagine what thoughts must have led to that particular conclusion....your reasoning defies logic.....but then again, as a fundie, that's kinda to be expected..

[.Sarcastic.Strawberries. (On Moderation)]

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Exactly.
That, and these people's silliness can be both funny and scary to watch.

Oh yes indeed, these debates have surely help me to become much less bored then I was before. n.n Funny and scary is a nice balance.

Well, they should know by now that I'm happy with my beliefs. But, they do seem unusually pig-headed in trying to convert me. Ah, well, if they wanna debate with me, they can go for it.

Ahh well chances are they won't change, but i agree. If they wish to debate then let them, they have their right too free speech. It's entertaining anyways. n.n

Sister Rebecca, there's nothing wrong with this nice guy wanting to help me out. It's what nice people do, you know, help each other?

n.n thank you, and yes. Nice people help each other. I do my best to be a decent person. n.n

[Sister Rebecca]

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You know, Hellbound, I kinda like you. I always have. My logic is, of course, the logic I was given by God. He knows you are ready. Why won't you just let go of your Heathenistic ways? Why? I want to meet you in Heaven, not laugh at you while you burn while riding Satan's tallywhacker. It grieves me that you won't JOIN us!
Oh, and you are still a diesel dyke until you become Saved(R).

[vikkio (On Moderation)]

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Jesus is whatever he wants to be, but blasphemy will get you put in solitude, little girl. Watch what you say and to whom. Like I said, Jesus IS watching!

Well, I do not hate people or tell them I do, nor do I tell them how they should feel or think. I am ok with who I am do not worry that Jesus is or is not watching. My soul is fine and I have no fears of judgement by you or anyone else, including the one you call Jesus or God.

Everyone has the right to live as they who they are as long as it does not harm others. I do think that by being mean spirited will not win many converts to your way of thinking. You can possibly subdue others by force, but you can never change who they really are or how they feel.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: You have convinced me I was wrong about you

Oh yes indeed, these debates have surely help me to become much less bored then I was before. n.n Funny and scary is a nice balance.

Yup. It's funny that they don't see just how silly some of the things they say actually are. I'm not entirely sure if they even realize that the Earth is, in fact, round.

Ahh well chances are they won't change, but i agree. If they wish to debate then let them, they have their right too free speech. It's entertaining anyways. n.n

Yup, they do have the right to free speech and it certainly is quite the hoot to watch.

n.n thank you, and yes. Nice people help each other. I do my best to be a decent person. n.n

I'm sure these people could learn a thing or two from you!