[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Proof: Muslims Believe In Islam Only Because They Are Depress

who cares if something is mentioned in the bible, i probs isnt in the bible but does it seem right to hate something with different beliefs.

THE BIBLE IS A BOOK...... A BOOK WRITTEN BY A MAN...... MEN MAKE MISTAKES....... MISTAKES MEAN SOMETHING IS WRONG

untill i see a glowing book fall from heaven and read it i couldnt give a damn about the suppose rules in the bible. all i know is what is the right thing to do. i believe in GOD and he is the devine creator but even if he told me to do something i didnt feel is right id defy it.

I AM REPULSED BY YOUR WAY OF THINKING WOULD YOU KILL TO PROVE A STATEMENT IN THE BIBLE???

Do you genuinely not see the contradiction in your reasoning, dear friend? You say that the Bible is merely a book written by men (which, by the way, is not true) and therefore is not an infallible guide to morality. Yet you also say that you know (in some way that you never bother to specify) what is the right thing to do. Are we supposed to believe that your own say-so has the Divine seal of approval that you think the Bible lacks?

[Gabriel Reproba]

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You also tell us we are going to Hell. The concept of Hell comes from the Bible. So which is it?

[DasDragon]

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how do you know the Bible was written by GOD where any of you there when it was created, you all act like your from centuries ago so scratch that. for all of you to complain to me saying the book is by GOD that may be true but does god pop one outa his butt every couple of years for all of you to read S.H.I.T rules that shouldnt apply to this century.

Grow a backbone if GOD told you to kill yourselfs would you, how about your mum, dad, son, daughter or anyother of your family memebers. I read in the papers how a guy slaughtered his family saying in court GOD told me to do it.

What do you see a true christian or mudererous scum.

sure you may go to heaven at the end of the day but you need to stop disagreeing with any other possiblilty of other faiths.

I BELIEVE THAT AS LONG AS YOU BELIEVE IN GOD AND MAKE SURE YOUR SOUL IS PURE (e.g not killing, raping or any other villinous acts) YOU SHALL BE REWARDED NO MATTER WHAT STUPID RELIGION YOU FOLLOW

AND YES I AM CALLING THIS AND EVERY RELIGION STUPID, ITS JUST A WAY TO SPLIT PEOPLE INTO GROUPS AND CREATE TENSION BETWEEN PEOPLE & STARTING WARS

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

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DasDragon, you were posed three important questions. Please answer them or concede your defeat to us. There is no shame in admitting you are wrong.

What evidence do you have for God being the divine creator? It's perfectly logical for us to believe in God, because we have evidence for it (i.e., the Bible). Why would you believe in God if you reject the evidence that he exists?

Do you genuinely not see the contradiction in your reasoning, dear friend? You say that the Bible is merely a book written by men (which, by the way, is not true) and therefore is not an infallible guide to morality. Yet you also say that you know (in some way that you never bother to specify) what is the right thing to do. Are we supposed to believe that your own say-so has the Divine seal of approval that you think the Bible lacks?

You also tell us we are going to Hell. The concept of Hell comes from the Bible. So which is it?

[Brother Temperance]

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It would also be nice of him to tell us if he knows the story of Abraham and Isaac, which teaches some very important lessons about the nature of God. I'll start a topic about it soon.

[DasDragon]

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DasDragon, you were posed three important questions. Please answer them or concede your defeat to us. There is no shame in admitting you are wrong.

I can answer all them with one quote.

although i dont agree with everything the bible stated it doesnt mean i dont believe everything

WANT ME TO BE MORE DETAILED 1) SURE MAYBE THE BIBLE IS THE FIRST BOOK TO STATE THAT GOD EXISTS BUT THERE ARE OTHER FORMS AS WELL, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT WHAT STATES THAT THE GOD WE PRAY TO ISNT THE ALLAH MUSLIMS PRAY TO.... OVERALL I BELIEVE THERE IS A GOD NUFF SAID

2) I BELIEVE IN THE TEN COMMANDMENTS OR AT LEAST WHAT THEY REPRESENT. ANYTHING MINOR THAT MAY SEND ME TO HELL I USE GUT FEELING AND CONCIENCE. IF I DID THE WRONG THING I FIGURE GOD WILL FORGIVE ME. IF MUREDERERS CAN REPENT FOR SOMETHING SO VILLINOUS WHY CANT I FOR SOMETHING STUPID

3) OK I HAVE NO IDEA IF THERE IS A HEAVEN AND HELL I SUPPOSE ITS WHAT YOU BELIEVE, UNTILL SOMEONE RISES FROM THE GRAVE AND TELLS ME I WENT TO HEAVEN/HELL ILL NOT CONFIRM IT BUT HELL REPRESENTS SOMETHING BAD AND SO FORTH

P.S TO ANYONE WANTING TO STATE JESUS WROSE FROM THE GRAVE, IT IS ONLY STED IN THE BIBLE I DONT GIVE A {OBSCENITY REMOVED} ABOUT IT, ITS ONLY WORD ON PAPER TO ME

[PetitionLady]

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Friend, your way of thinking is off base. It appears you believe you can do or say anything and will be welcome into Heaven? "Forgiven" as you say? That's wrong, wrong.

I leave you with this scripture since you still have time to turn your life around and love Jesus:


Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Matthew 7:21

[DasDragon]

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I never said i can do whatever i want, there are rules to abide by all im saying is that there are aload of things in the bible that doesnt seem right to do in this day and age (such as marrying your rapist) if say my sister didnt want to marry her rapist would she go to hell??

THERE ARE THINGS IN THE BIBLE THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE IN THE 21ST CENTURY AND I REFUSE TO BE BULLIED INTO DOING THEM. IF GOD CAN FORGIVE PEOPLE THAT MURDER HE SHOULD FORGIVE THE ONES THAT HAVE REASONALBLE DEBATES.

[PetitionLady]

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I never said i can do whatever i want ...

You previously said, "IF I DID THE WRONG THING I FIGURE GOD WILL FORGIVE ME."

That translates to me that you believe you can do whatever you want and God will simply forgive you. That's why I noted Matthew 7:21, because you're lost. You don't mention anything about asking forgiveness and repenting.

If I were you, for the new year, I would buy myself the best gift you'll ever give yourself:

[Gabriel Reproba]

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Grow a backbone if GOD told you to kill yourselfs would you, how about your mum, dad, son, daughter or anyother of your family memebers.

Yes.

I read in the papers how a guy slaughtered his family saying in court GOD told me to do it.

I believe we already covered that hero of God in another thread.


Finally, you FIRST say...

I never said i can do whatever i want, there are rules to abide by...

THEN you say...

all im saying is that there are aload of things in the bible that doesnt seem right to do in this day and age (such as marrying your rapist) if say my sister didnt want to marry her rapist would she go to hell??

THERE ARE THINGS IN THE BIBLE THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE IN THE 21ST CENTURY AND I REFUSE TO BE BULLIED INTO DOING THEM. IF GOD CAN FORGIVE PEOPLE THAT MURDER HE SHOULD FORGIVE THE ONES THAT HAVE REASONALBLE DEBATES.

So you admit that there are rules? But you get to pick and choose which apply and which don't? Does everyone get to pick and choose? Can a druggie murderer choose to ignore the rules against murder and rape while you choose to ignore the rules about blasphemy and punishing rapists? Isn't that REALLY a world without rules at all?

Also, if there ARE rules, doesn't there have to be a rule giver? If so, who is your rule giver?

Why don't you admit that you are an atheist who does not believe in God and you just want to live by your own rules?

[DasDragon]

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Yes.

I believe we already covered that hero of God in another thread.


Finally, you FIRST say...


THEN you say...
So you admit that there are rules? But you get to pick and choose which apply and which don't? Does everyone get to pick and choose? Can a druggie murderer choose to ignore the rules against murder and rape while you choose to ignore the rules about blasphemy and punishing rapists? Isn't that REALLY a world without rules at all?

Also, if there ARE rules, doesn't there have to be a rule giver? If so, who is your rule giver?

Why don't you admit that you are an atheist who does not believe in God and you just want to live by your own rules?

Ok fair enough i live by my own rules if that makes you happy, what part of i dont accept all the rules in the bible for them being outdated by modern society dont you understand.... just because in the future i refuse to let my daughters rapist marry her doesnt make me a satan worshipper, im not about to go out and murder someone. I ACTUALLY WORSHIP GOD AND PRAY TO HIM BUT NOT THROUGH PASTORS OR EVEN JESUS!!

ILL ADMIT A RESPECT THAT YOU ARE ALL STRONG BELIEVERS UNDER TODAYS CIRCUMSTANCES BUT I HATE THE FACT YOU ALL SEEM TO THINK PEOPLE WITH A DIFFRENT VIEW ARE EVIL AND MOCK US SAYING WE ARENT PURE.. LIKE IVE SAID PLENTY OF TIMES IF GOD CAN FORGIVE A MURDERER WHY WOULDNT HE FORGIVE PEOPLE WHO SIMPLY WISH TO EXPLORE OTHERS BELIEFS

[BelieverInGod]

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Okay, first of all

I can answer all them with one quote.

although i dont agree with everything the bible stated it doesnt mean i dont believe everything

WANT ME TO BE MORE DETAILED 1) SURE MAYBE THE BIBLE IS THE FIRST BOOK TO STATE THAT GOD EXISTS BUT THERE ARE OTHER FORMS AS WELL, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT WHAT STATES THAT THE GOD WE PRAY TO ISNT THE ALLAH MUSLIMS PRAY TO.... OVERALL I BELIEVE THERE IS A GOD NUFF SAID

2) I BELIEVE IN THE TEN COMMANDMENTS OR AT LEAST WHAT THEY REPRESENT. ANYTHING MINOR THAT MAY SEND ME TO HELL I USE GUT FEELING AND CONCIENCE. IF I DID THE WRONG THING I FIGURE GOD WILL FORGIVE ME. IF MUREDERERS CAN REPENT FOR SOMETHING SO VILLINOUS WHY CANT I FOR SOMETHING STUPID

3) OK I HAVE NO IDEA IF THERE IS A HEAVEN AND HELL I SUPPOSE ITS WHAT YOU BELIEVE, UNTILL SOMEONE RISES FROM THE GRAVE AND TELLS ME I WENT TO HEAVEN/HELL ILL NOT CONFIRM IT BUT HELL REPRESENTS SOMETHING BAD AND SO FORTH

P.S TO ANYONE WANTING TO STATE JESUS WROSE FROM THE GRAVE, IT IS ONLY STED IN THE BIBLE I DONT GIVE A {OBSCENITY REMOVED} ABOUT IT, ITS ONLY WORD ON PAPER TO ME

So how do you decide what parts of the Bible to believe and what not to believe? I'm sorry that you're going to Hell. Do you realize that all of your anger comes from the demons that are residing inside of you? Jesus (the real one, not something you made up in your own mind) can bring you peace.

I never said i can do whatever i want, there are rules to abide by all im saying is that there are aload of things in the bible that doesnt seem right to do in this day and age (such as marrying your rapist) if say my sister didnt want to marry her rapist would she go to hell??

THERE ARE THINGS IN THE BIBLE THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE IN THE 21ST CENTURY AND I REFUSE TO BE BULLIED INTO DOING THEM. IF GOD CAN FORGIVE PEOPLE THAT MURDER HE SHOULD FORGIVE THE ONES THAT HAVE REASONALBLE DEBATES.

Uh, God only forgives murderers that truly repent and ask Jesus to come into them as their personal Savior. Unless you truly repent for your sins of doubt and turn your life completely over to Jesus and start following the 600+ commandments in the Bible, you're not getting into heaven.

Ok fair enough i live by my own rules if that makes you happy, what part of i dont accept all the rules in the bible for them being outdated by modern society dont you understand.... just because in the future i refuse to let my daughters rapist marry her doesnt make me a satan worshipper, im not about to go out and murder someone. I ACTUALLY WORSHIP GOD AND PRAY TO HIM BUT NOT THROUGH PASTORS OR EVEN JESUS!!

So how do you know whats right? Should we all just make up our own rules? Hey, you know what? I don't particularly like my neighbor, so I'm going to make a rule that says if I kill him I get to take his lands. How does that sound?

ILL ADMIT A RESPECT THAT YOU ARE ALL STRONG BELIEVERS UNDER TODAYS CIRCUMSTANCES BUT I HATE THE FACT YOU ALL SEEM TO THINK PEOPLE WITH A DIFFRENT VIEW ARE EVIL AND MOCK US SAYING WE ARENT PURE.. LIKE IVE SAID PLENTY OF TIMES IF GOD CAN FORGIVE A MURDERER WHY WOULDNT HE FORGIVE PEOPLE WHO SIMPLY WISH TO EXPLORE OTHERS BELIEFS

Scripture please, because the Bible says something completely different.

Exodus 20:3, Exodus 23:13, Judges 2:17, Judges 10:13, and so on.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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LIKE IVE SAID PLENTY OF TIMES IF GOD CAN FORGIVE A MURDERER WHY WOULDNT HE FORGIVE PEOPLE WHO SIMPLY WISH TO EXPLORE OTHERS BELIEFS

Forgiveness is for those who believe and repent:

Matt. 21:32: For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen [it], repented not afterward, that ye might believe him.

[DasDragon]

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Believe what though in GOD (already do), in JESUS (already do) the only thing i dont believe in is these 600+ commandments.

the reason im using caps is to show my stress on the fact that your not listening

SO HERE IT GOES LISTEN AND LISTEN WELL...................

I AM NOT MAKING MY OWN RULES FOR GETTING INTO HEAVEN, I AM NOT GOING TO KILL SOMEONE BECAUSE IM MAKING IT A RULE TO DO SO. I AM HOWEVER GOING TO DEFY THE RULES THAT SHOULDNT BE APLLIED TO THIS AGE SUCH AS GETTING A RAPE VICTIM MARRIED OFF, THAT IS ALL.

i know im going to annoy people by asking this but who personally knows if GOD wrote the BIBLE was anyone there when it first was published. it is due to this that i refuse to believe everything in it, but instead use the info along with my own high morals, consciousness and other beliefs to become a person worthy of reward when my life is over.

Will you all stop quoting little bits of my message and turning it around to make me look like a bad guy. i do not wish to convert you into agnostics (notlike it would work) but i am genuinely disgusted by your behavior and find the majority of you to be rascists,

YOU DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DIE AND YOU DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED CENTURIES AGO... NOT FROM EXPERIENCE. BELIEVE IN THESE COMMANDMENTS BUT STOP THINKING YOU ARE RIGHT ALL THE TIME AND MOCKING OTHERS BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY EVERYBODY BELIEVES WE WERE ALL MADE FROM ONE COUPLE (ADAM AND EVE)

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

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Ok fair enough i live by my own rules if that makes you happy, what part of i dont accept all the rules in the bible for them being outdated by modern society dont you understand.... just because in the future i refuse to let my daughters rapist marry her doesnt make me a satan worshipper, im not about to go out and murder someone. I ACTUALLY WORSHIP GOD AND PRAY TO HIM BUT NOT THROUGH PASTORS OR EVEN JESUS!!

ILL ADMIT A RESPECT THAT YOU ARE ALL STRONG BELIEVERS UNDER TODAYS CIRCUMSTANCES BUT I HATE THE FACT YOU ALL SEEM TO THINK PEOPLE WITH A DIFFRENT VIEW ARE EVIL AND MOCK US SAYING WE ARENT PURE.. LIKE IVE SAID PLENTY OF TIMES IF GOD CAN FORGIVE A MURDERER WHY WOULDNT HE FORGIVE PEOPLE WHO SIMPLY WISH TO EXPLORE OTHERS BELIEFS

I might suggest a modest alternative here – instead of you just going by your "gut", you should write all your thoughts down about "modern" living and how to lead a moral and just life and have it published – call it the DasDragon Bible (or something). Then convince 12 other people to follow you around documenting all your speeches, miracles and good deeds (maybe post them on YouTube as well). When you finally get around to rising from the dead, we can check it all out and establish the veracity of all your claims. At that point you will have had the opportunity to have a chat with God about all your unsubstantiated whimsy and you can report back to us on just what His thoughts are. In the mean time I think all True Christians™ here will be following the Bible (KJV1611).