[Godsgrace]

Re: Who are wiccans?

And you are talking to someone who actually studied this religion for years now. I did not say none do, but TRUE wiccans do not use black magic, and I have not been Christian for about a year now, I am what you call Agnostic. Now if you want a full explanation on that, I would be more then happy to, but I know how TRUE Wiccans go by, and what they REALLY believe in.

You may've studied, but you've obviously misunderstood. TRUE wiccans are satanists, period. It may be true that some people get into witchcaft because they (falsely) believe that they'll become more "spiritual" without actually submitting to God. Witchcraft is rebellion coupled with a desire to "stay in the game", to be a spiritual player.

However...

It is simply impossible to serve both Satan and God. If you're a witch, then:

John 8:44-45

"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

1 Samuel 15:23

"For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king."

Get right with God, sinner...

[TheRealWickedOne]

Re: Who are wiccans?

You may've studied, but you've obviously misunderstood. TRUE wiccans are satanists, period. It may be true that some people get into witchcaft because they (falsely) believe that they'll become more "spiritual" without actually submitting to God. Witchcraft is rebellion coupled with a desire to "stay in the game", to be a spiritual player.

However...

It is simply impossible to serve both Satan and God. If you're a witch, then:

John 8:44-45

"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

1 Samuel 15:23

"For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king."

Get right with God, sinner...

Oh my Jesus that made my day.

Ok let me show you the difference between a Satanist and a Wiccan. Wiccans do not worship Satan, they also do not use black magic. They worship a goddess, they also do not do Satanic rituals, I would know I actually read the Satanic Bible and read about the ways of the Wiccans. Two different religions, which i am sure you would know nothing about true Satanist ether, oh my, that was easy to prove.

And yes, I am SUCH a sinner, I will see you in hell.

[Godsgrace]

Re: Who are wiccans?

Oh my Jesus that made my day. I would advise you to not blaspheme the Lord

Ok let me show you the difference between a Satanist and a Wiccan. There is noneWiccans do not worship Satan,Yes, they do they also do not use black magic.Yes, they do They worship a goddess, they also do not do Satanic ritualsYes, they do, I would know I actually read the Satanic Bible This doesn't impress meand read about the ways of the Wiccans. Two different religions, which i am sure you would know nothing about true Satanist ether, oh my, that was easy to prove.

And yes, I am SUCH a sinner, I will see you in hell. I'm Heaven Bound, sinner...

All witchcraft is satanic...

Deuteronomy 18:10-12

10There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.

11Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.

12For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.

You see, If it's not God's Holy Spirit, then you are dealing with the Devil. Any spirit that is not the Holy Spirit is a familiar spirit. You can tell them by their fruit. They never mention Jesus Christ as the Savior. They don't recognize the Scriptures as their Final Authority. The Devil is a spirit, just as God is the Holy Spirit. We can only worship God in spirit...

John 4:24

24God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

We battle against the Devil...

Ephesians 6:12

12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Wiccans, as do Muslims and Jews, deny that Jesus is the Christ. In so doing they have chosen the Lake of Fire as their eternal home, where they shall be punished forever, tormented DAY AND NIGHT . . .

Revelation 20:10 and 15

10And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

[TheRealWickedOne]

Re: Who are wiccans?

All witchcraft is satanic...

Deuteronomy 18:10-12

10There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.

11Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.

12For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.

You see, If it's not God's Holy Spirit, then you are dealing with the Devil. Any spirit that is not the Holy Spirit is a familiar spirit. You can tell them by their fruit. They never mention Jesus Christ as the Savior. They don't recognize the Scriptures as their Final Authority. The Devil is a spirit, just as God is the Holy Spirit. We can only worship God in spirit...

John 4:24

24God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

We battle against the Devil...

Ephesians 6:12

12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Wiccans, as do Muslims and Jews, deny that Jesus is the Christ. In so doing they have chosen the Lake of Fire as their eternal home, where they shall be punished forever, tormented DAY AND NIGHT . . .

Revelation 20:10 and 15

10And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

You are talking to someone who actually knows the way's of things and actually took classes of this. So I think a real intelligent person would take my word over yours any day. What you say about Wiccans is not true and are nothing more then stereotype rumors that other Christians use just so you could never join them. The truth is, Wiccans are actually real peaceful people and do not wish the worse on ANYONE. Real Wiccans also makes medicines and potions and not from black magic ether, from NATURE, they believe in creating things from NATURE, not black magic. Big difference there, you "so called Christians" only believe that it's evil cause they can actually heal people. Oh my how do they do it?, easy, using anything nature related. They only worship the goddess of nature, and yes i do mean mother nature herself. Also if you know true Satanist like i read them, Satanist do not have to worship Satan or anything really, they do not even have to believe he exist, and if you disprove me on this, read the Satanic Bible yourself. And if you do not believe on my views of the Wiccans, then read actual books in public library's about them, you find that I am right. Like I really care if you do, or do not, but I know that I am right and you are wrong, and I have years of studies to back it up. Now, have a nice day, and will see you in hell,.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Who are wiccans?

You are talking to someone who actually knows the way's of things and actually took classes of this. [...]do not wish the worse on ANYONE.

BWAAAAAH!


A class in witchery? Was it a ‘night-class’! Did you get a broom parking place in the closet? Do you buy your own pointy hats or are they provided? Did you pass “Be Familiar with Your Familiar 101?” or “Steak or Stake? You choose” Was there a spelling test? Was the course recommended by the “Which Witch?” guide? How do you know that the teacher didn’t put a spell on you to make you think that you’d attended?

And as for your claim that you “only use my awesome powers for good.” Is that not what Hitler said?

[Cursed]

Re: Who are wiccans?

You are talking to someone who actually knows the way's of things and actually took classes of this.

You took a class at your local community college, taught about "true wicca" by some dumpy half-baked hippy cow. Did you get a "True Wicca Wand" and a gift certificate for scented candles when you graduated?

Congratulations on your intensive semesters of study under the tutelage of a deluded lesbian.

So I think a real intelligent person would take my word over yours any day.

Oh yes, the fact that you took wicca classes is really impressive to anyone of superior intelligence, certainly. I, for one, am awed.

What you say about Wiccans is not true and are nothing more then stereotype rumors that other Christians use just so you could never join them.

Tell that to all the people murdered by wiccans. Oh wait, you can't. They're dead.

You know what? You should share your unique academic credentials in a more proactive way. I know! You can call the families of wiccan murder victims and explain to them about how peaceful wicca is!

The truth is, Wiccans are actually real peaceful people and do not wish the worse on ANYONE.

Then why do they keep killing people? It's kind of contradictory.

Real Wiccans also makes medicines and potions and not from black magic ether, from NATURE, they believe in creating things from NATURE, not black magic.

They also make poisons from NATURE, and sacrifice people with ceremonial peaceful white-magic KNIVES that they picked up at their local community college wicca classes.

Big difference there, you "so called Christians" only believe that it's evil cause they can actually heal people.

They actually heal people? Where did you get that nonsense?

I've never heard of a wiccan doing anything but stabbing people. Is that what you mean by healing? Maybe we have a language barrier. Here in the USA when someone inserts a knife into someone else's body, we call it "stabbing," not "healing."

Oh my how do they do it?, easy, using anything nature related. They only worship the goddess of nature, and yes i do mean mother nature herself.

You must have fallen asleep during some of your studies, my friend. Wiccans do not ONLY worship the goddess of nature. Yet another example of the pathetic state of the educational system, poor Ms. RealWickedOne! It's not your fault.

Also if you know true Satanist like i read them, Satanist do not have to worship Satan or anything really, they do not even have to believe he exist, and if you disprove me on this, read the Satanic Bible yourself.

Fun fact: Did you know that satanism existed BEFORE the Satanic Bible written by that hack LaVey? It's true. You should take a class in that!

And if you do not believe on my views of the Wiccans, then read actual books in public library's about them, you find that I am right.

The books I have read about wiccans say you are wrong. Why is that?

Like I really care if you do, or do not, but I know that I am right and you are wrong, and I have years of studies to back it up. Now, have a nice day, and will see you in hell,.

Years of studies and you haven't found evidence of wiccan black magic ritualistic murder?

You know, it doesn't count as years of studying if it takes you years to read a book.

It's quickly and easily proven that you are wrong, in every way, about every thing. It almost puts a tear in my eye thinking about you, studying one or two books as the seasons roll by, reading as hard as you can with all of your might. What a triumph for you, though!

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Who are wiccans?

Wiccan is a neopagan religion, that is simular to Paganism the oldest religion to exist.

Do you know what "neo-" means?

The oldest religion to exist, according to the authorities you'd probably cite, is animism - specifically African Traditional Religion.

Paganism is a European concoction deriving from sundry ancient mesopotamian superstitions. There are certain parallel elements in belief systems associated with all of the Indo-European language group. Any connection with African religion is remote in the extreme.

[peaceandlies]

Re: Who are wiccans?

Wiccans are pathetic. I studied the 'religion' for a small amount of time, and they never seem to be able to agree on anything. Some of them believe in a god and a goddess, some of them believe that the 'god; and 'goddess' are parts of one deity, and some of them believe in dozens of gods and goddesses I wouldn't care to name.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Who are wiccans?

Wiccans are pathetic. Some [...]of them believe that the 'god; and 'goddess' are parts of one deity,

What? Two people being one person? It's ridiculous, they must be mad!

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Who are wiccans?

What? Two people being one person? It's ridiculous, they must be mad!

Wicca is really silly. Not only does their false god have a split personality but go one about talking animals and secret conspiracies threw out history to persecute them, Amazing what people will believe just because it is written in some book.

[Godsgrace]

Re: Who are wiccans?

You are talking to someone who actually knows the way's of things and actually took classes of this. Apparently, I'm talking to a SATANIST So I think a real intelligent person would take my word over yours any day. I highly doubt that What you say about Wiccans is not true Oh, yes it is and are nothing more then stereotype rumors that other Christians use just so you could never join them. That's a LIE The truth is, Wiccans are actually real peaceful people and do not wish the worse on ANYONE.Except Christians Real Wiccans also makes medicines and potions and not from black magic ether, from NATURE, they believe in creating things from NATURE, not black magic. What??? You're saying everything from nature is Black Magic?? NO!!! Everything comes... from GOD! Big difference there, you "so called Christians" only believe that it's evil cause they can actually heal people. Wrong again... Christians KNOW it's evil because the Word of GOD tells us so... in the Bible! Ever heard of it? Oh my how do they do it?, easy, using anything nature related.I don't even know how to respond, this is such an insipidly stupid statement They only worship the goddess of nature, and yes i do mean mother nature herself. I think you meant to say "Satan" Also if you know true Satanist like i read them, Satanist do not have to worship Satan or anything really, they do not even have to believe he exist, Yes! Now you might understand! Satanists and witches are Athiests!! and if you disprove me on this, read the Satanic Bible yourself. Not likeley; I'll stick with the King James Bible, thank you And if you do not believe on my views of the Wiccans, then read actual books in public library's about them, you find that I am right. Like I really care if you do, or do not, but I know that I am right and you are wrong, and I have years of studies to back it up. I think the only thing that you've devoted years of time to is debasing yourself masturbating Now, have a nice day, and will see you in hell,You admit it; you're going to hell. But, you don't have to... get on your knees, repent, pray, study the KJV Bible!!!.

Listen. Your obviously uneducated, so I'll type this slowly for you. Do you really want to hear an unbiased, True account of someone's experience with Witchcraft? Perhaps you're aware of Christine O'Donnell. She's a Republican, so you can be pretty sure she speaks the Truth. She talks about when she was younger, she associated with witches. Here's a quote from Ms. O'Donnell when she was on a news commentary show:

"I dabbled into witchcraft -- I never joined a coven. But I did, I did. I dabbled into witchcraft. I hung around people who were doing these things. I'm not making this stuff up. I know what they told me they do,"

"One of my first dates with a witch was on a satanic altar, and I didn't know it. I mean, there's little blood there and stuff like that. We went to a movie and then had a midnight picnic on a satanic altar."

Did you see that? A SATANIC ALTAR! If you think I'm making this up (how could anyone make up something like that??), google it yourself.

In John 5:39, Jesus told us to SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES!

1 Samuel 15:23

"... sin of witchcraft"

Deuteronomy 18:10-12

10There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.

11Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.

12For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.

Galatians 5:19-21

19Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

20Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Leviticus 19:31

31Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God.


2 Kings 21:6

6And he made his son pass through the fire, and observed times, and used enchantments, and dealt with familiar spirits and wizards: he wrought much wickedness in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger.

Exodus 22:18

Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

You see your so-called "years of study" amount to a hill of beans compared to the Word of God.

Repent, sinner, get right with God. Pray. Get out a REAL textbook, the KJV 1611 Holy Bible - its Authorized!

[Godsgrace]

Re: Who are wiccans?

Wicca is really silly. Not only does their false god have a split personality but go one about talking animals and secret conspiracies threw out history to persecute them, Amazing what people will believe just because it is written in some book.

Amen, brother. I heard it said that they say that they have the power to reanimate corpses... anyone who does that is certainly of the Devil.

[LizzyP]

Re: Who are wiccans?

Why do so many people come here claiming to be wiccans?

I cannot understand why there are so many people who make wicker furniture and make a cult religion about it.

They are people, most worship God and the goddess. They use rituals as a way to connect to said God or goddess, to cast spells ect.. They are also big on the 4 elements thing. They also follow the rule of "An it harm none, do as ye will" (An just means if), and they believe that whatever they do comes back 3 fold, whether it be good or bad.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Who are wiccans?

I have not been Christian for about a year now, I am what you call Agnostic. Now if you want a full explanation on that, I would be more then happy to, but I know how TRUE Wiccans go by, and what they REALLY believe in.

I thought you were a Wiccan. That means you worship the Lard and Lady, or whatever.

Agnostics say that it is not possible to know the nature of God. You cannot simultaneously be agnostic and Wiccan.

You are talking to someone who actually knows the way's of things and actually took classes of this.

Did they teach you the meaning of "agnostic" at your Learning Annex class?

What? Two people being one person? It's ridiculous, they must be mad!

Why else would they name themselves after furniture, Brother?

[peaceandlies]

Re: Who are wiccans?

What? Two people being one person? It's ridiculous, they must be mad!

Exactly. Unable to see the truth, they try to find something to replace it with. Why they would choose to believe that one person is two people, though, I don't know.

@Godsgrace: I don't believe that they can reanimate corpses. They're so ridiculous and insignificant, I doubt the devil bothers to do their dirty work.