[Ebenezer Wright]

Re: Teenager 'murdered young woman for dressing as a Goth'

who said that the gentlemen how 'assault' the goth weren't under the influince of drugs i think that even if there is a goth that looks like a witch doesn't deserves to die if god or jesus wants to send her 'back to hell' he will kill her but send some people after her now way if god hates people that think different then him than i don't like god

Are you sure you haven't been taking drugs before making this post? And why should God not be mad when people spit in His face and disrespect His Word?

[craiester]

Re: Teenager 'murdered young woman for dressing as a Goth'

Are you sure you haven't been taking drugs before making this post? And why should God not be mad when people spit in His face and disrespect His Word?

goths don't spit in gods face and no i don't take drugs many poeple disrespect gods word that don't make them all goths does it
i know many goths that aren't possesed by a demon an are just people like u and me

[Ebenezer Wright]

Re: Teenager 'murdered young woman for dressing as a Goth'

goths don't spit in gods face and no i don't take drugs many poeple disrespect gods word that don't make them all goths does it
i know many goths that aren't possesed by a demon an are just people like u and me

Any yes you are spitting in God's face when you know His scripture, but you decide to not obey it! And no, not everyone who spit in His face is a goth. There are Wiccans, Catholics, Lutherans, pagans, atheists, and retards.

Not all goths are possessed by demons, but at least the ones who are have a good excuse for dressing so foolishly.

[craiester]

Re: Teenager 'murdered young woman for dressing as a Goth'

Are you sure you haven't been taking drugs before making this post? And why should God not be mad when people spit in His face and disrespect His Word?

i'm goth i go to the church sometimes i don't spit in gods face and i don't disrespect gods word i just wear black and i like the signs not because the devil is behind it just i think it is beautiful

[Pinecone]

Re: Teenager 'murdered young woman for dressing as a Goth'

Going to church does not increase the value of your soul nor provide you with any divine "collateral" so to speak. Do not act like it is some sort of shield you can protect yourself against judgement with.

As sinner's we all "spit" in the face of God, only through forgiveness can this be wiped away.

As far as wearing black is concerned, you'll grow out of that soon enough. May I suggest attempting to transition into some blue jeans, perhaps some khaki.

If you're wearing or sporting satanic symbols you are doing a service to the enemy regardless of whether you believe in them or not. Wear the cross proudly when and if you believe. If beatuy is what you're looking for, there's no better choice than that which you wear in rememberence of your salvation.

The following is a tribute to the 7 uncapitilized i's you have in your last post, may they be remembered as they should have been, not as they were: IIIIIII

[Pitiful Pussy]

Re: Teenager 'murdered young woman for dressing as a Goth'

Going to church does not increase the value of your soul nor provide you with any divine "collateral" so to speak. Do not act like it is some sort of shield you can protect yourself against judgement with.

As sinner's we all "spit" in the face of God, only through forgiveness can this be wiped away.

As far as wearing black is concerned, you'll grow out of that soon enough. May I suggest attempting to transition into some blue jeans, perhaps some khaki.

If you're wearing or sporting satanic symbols you are doing a service to the enemy regardless of whether you believe in them or not. Wear the cross proudly when and if you believe. If beatuy is what you're looking for, there's no better choice than that which you wear in rememberence of your salvation.

The following is a tribute to the 7 uncapitilized i's you have in your last post, may they be remembered as they should have been, not as they were: IIIIIII

Well spoken my brother!

Sometimes they do not know what it is they are doing. The devil likes to hide in awkward places...

[Brother_Percy]

Re: Teenager 'murdered young woman for dressing as a Goth'

Would someone be kind enough to interpret the above.

Sister R,

It appears this poster is retarded. Studies between Goth and Mental Illness have revealed that up to 99.994% of Goths are retarded, or mentally unstable in some way or another. But then, that was rather obvious - You don't get 'normal' people going around throwing period-blood over children, raping cats, or eating eat other's filthy excrement.

[Bummer]

Re: Teenager 'murdered young woman for dressing as a Goth'

There is no such thing as a "personal law". There is secular law and God's Law. The two should be one, but until they are, we are commanded to obey secular law.

Well to me it seems if you consider yourself a "true christian" you can use your religion to justify anything you like. It's very convenient.

Anyone who reads God's Word does. Are you a retarded or something? It's right there, clear as day in the KJV1611.

This is typical when someone like me try to discuss belief with a believer, you start insulting me for no reason, at least i thought so but now i understand that me questioning things that for you are very clear, might seem like i insult you. That is not my intention, to me you can't say what god wants even if you have the bible.

That's where the problem lays, in people "interpreting" God's Word. There is no interpretation needed! It's word-for-word the absolute Truth. If your heart wasn't hardened against God, you would realize this.

How can you know it's truth? How can you know the bible is IT? There is no way of knowing.

Why, when God has told us Himself what is right and wrong? I don't know about you, but I'd rather not spend eternity in unrelenting anguish as the fires of Hell burn but never consume.

This is a problem with a religion such as christianity, it holds you by fear, don't you dare think anything else or you will burn in hell. What about, you think for yourself and do what makes sense, make your own choices, you don't need anyone else to lead you and tell you what is right and wrong, most people can use common sense. (note that I'm not insulting you, speaking of people in general)

So if some drug addict had a gun to your mother's head, you wouldn't shoot him because killing is always wrong?

Yes killing is wrong, in this case, i agree with you, of course i would in that moment make a choice and choose to protect the person who means the most to me. But the drug addict might not be a bad person, it might be someone like you even, someone who just happened to have a lot of tragic events in his/hers life and in need of something turned to drugs, these people often find their way back to normal life again. Anyone can stray right? Should you not forgive them, though if this person was pure evil, someone who wanted bad intentionally, i could not forgive them, but i could probably understand how they ended up being like that. And i could wish the person to go to jail for the crime. But yeah if i had to choose i would kill that person in that instant if there was no other way, it doesn't make me right though.

[quote]death penalty is also wrong.[quote/]

Of course you would be a bleeding-heart, namby-pamby LIEberal nitwit who cares more about murderers than their victims and would rather see them out on the street ready to kill again.

Many people on death row is innocent, people are being released all the time, DNA makes it possible to check if they actually did commit the crime, so first of all, a lot of innocent people are getting killed for crimes they didn't commit, second, what if it's just a troubled kid, lost in life, ends up killing someone, realizes his/hers action and feels nothing but regret, should this person also get the death penalty? Lifetime for brutal intentional murder, yes, but killing people, it's not up to us, it's nature. We can lock them up to make ourselves feel safe but we have no right taking lives, that makes us just the same as a murderer.

Really? Explain then please all the atheist mass murderers of the 20th century - Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, etc.

Yes these are corrupt people who just wanted money, power and fame.
Hitler http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_H...igious_beliefs
Stalin and Pol Pot however were not religious. Just plain crazy i would say, but this is also in a way to lead people to destruction, basically just as bad. However they both were brought up with religion. Any destructive leader is bad, what i want as an atheist is peace, not persecution of any race or belief. People should be free to think for themselves. So no i was a bit hasty saying all wars are started by violent religions. However a lot of them are and have something to do with it in some way.

Obviously we do, and there's good news! That days is coming! We are in End Times, friend, and if you accept Jesus into your heart now, you will join all other True Christians™ in reigning by His side on Earth for a thousand years! GLORY!

Well I'm glad you think so, i have my trust in science and facts, we cannot know what will happen in the future, also makes it a bit exciting. I do believe we some day will live all in harmony, but everyone will have their own belief and accept all others.

What a hateful thing to say! Why do you want people to burn in Hell? That's not just hateful, that's evil. And we would be just as evil if we just "let people believe in what they want". We love them and care about the fate of their souls!
If you see a baby rolling in a carriage down a steep hill toward traffic, do you just say to yourself, "The baby wants to roll down this hill so who am I to stop him?" Well, you might. But a decent person would try to stop that baby! Wouldn't you rather be a decent person than such a hateful, evil, "tolerant" tool of Satan?

Well it can't be hateful if this is what i believe is the best for them right? Since i don't believe in a god, things are what you make them yourself, the baby in a rolling carriage really is not the same thing, how can you compare that? Everyone chooses for themselves, i think it's great you want good for people, you think your belief is the right one etc, i understand it's that strong for you, but you need to understand i believe something different, just as strong as you. To me this is the way. And i don't try to convert other people, nor tell them they will burn in hell or be punished for their beliefs, i just ask them to be respectful to others, no matter who it is, and that will give them happiness, there is nothing to be afraid of, no god will punish you for not following it's words, just be a decent human being and things will go well for you.

I'd like to think that you really didn't feel that way, that murder and theft are still wrong, but sadly I'd be mistaken. You really do feel this way, don't you?

Of course murder and theft is wrong. What is wrong with your belief is that you say it's wrong... and after comes "unless it's a heathen, gay person, witch etc" you make exceptions. I think this at the beginning is based at which people the christians didn't like at that time, it's very simple to find people to blame for all the bad things in the world instead of making it better.

Obviously you don't care about the commandments about not worshipping other gods or bowing down to graven images, working on the Sabbath or honoring your parents. Let's take a look at some others then.

I don't worship a god, the best religion in my mind is buddhism, it's a free religion, you do as much as you like of it, no one will punish you, and it's all about happiness, peace and acceptance, honoring my parents? I'm not sure what you mean here?

Thou shalt not kill. With you being an unrepentant LIEberal, I'm sure you have no problem with the baby holocaust where millions of unborn children are slaughtered every year in the abortion mills.

Don't judge me just yet, you don't know me. There is nothing wrong with abortion, unless you do it over and over and don't care, now that would be different, but i think you just wanted to hear my opinion on that. Somehow "Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to the people you think should be killed. So what is the difference here? If a teenage girl becomes pregnant don't you think it's best for her to have a child later in life?

Neither shalt thou commit adultery. If it feels good, do it, huh? Never mind all the diseases spread around and families broken up.

Well i never cheated on any of my boyfriends (yes i'm a girl don't worry), but people grow apart and at some point you might have to end a relationship, so you do it, both people agree and move on in life, it's natrual. I must say i dislike people who do commit adultery, you should just end your relationship before this happens. And hey, i agree, don't spread diseases, use a condom!

Neither shalt thou steal. Yet I suppose you have no problem with the government picking the pockets of hard-working people at the end of a gun!

Well i don't know enough about american politics to talk about that.

Neither shalt thou bear false witness against thy neighbour. Do you lie (other than your insistence that God's Word is not His Word)? Do you believe there are "justifiable" lies?

There are so called white lies, which sometimes can be justifiable but i myself think telling the truth is always the best way, and i try to stick to it.

I guess you really do believe that the "old rules" no longer apply, and that's just sad. No wonder society is in the pickle it's in today.

Well i think slaughtering people because they have a different belief will sure not make it better. And it makes sense if you think about it, back then i'm sure the bible made perfect sense but not today, i'm sorry, it's just too far fetched we can live today by something written so long ago. We have research and science today, we don't have to rely on an old book.

[Bummer]

Re: Teenager 'murdered young woman for dressing as a Goth'

The basic thing here is, Goths are usually teenagers who like to wear black clothes, they are not EVIL, i mean why do you get scared of black clothes? You never wear black? It's usually a teenage thing, teenagers like to try stuff, i don't believe in Wicca either, to me there is no such thing as witchcraft, this was common belief hundreds of years ago, people today know better(usually), so why are you so scared? You honestly need to get to know some of these people to realize they're just normal people...really, i promise. Don't be so scared of the world, get to know it.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Teenager 'murdered young woman for dressing as a Goth'

Son, we have Jesus on our side. We are afraid of nothing.

You on the other hand, are going to spend eternity being satan's favorite party ewe unless you repent and accept Christ as your personal Savior.

[Bummer]

Re: Teenager 'murdered young woman for dressing as a Goth'

Son, we have Jesus on our side. We are afraid of nothing.

You on the other hand, are going to spend eternity being satan's favorite party ewe unless you repent and accept Christ as your personal Savior.

Well, I'm a girl.

But you are afraid, you think you will burn in hell for all kinds of things. And i see repeatedly how people here write about goths being scary? This is proof of people being told over and over what is bad, they have never actually spoken to a goth person, but they were told they're evil, and of course we all trust what we are being told, we don't just go there and find out for ourselves, because if we do, we have also been told we will burn in hell. Right? This is very effective manipulation and control of people.

Well no. I cannot spend an eternity with something that does not exist.. hmm

[Pinecone]

Re: Teenager 'murdered young woman for dressing as a Goth'

But you are afraid, you think you will burn in hell for all kinds of things.

A Christian will never want to see a soul sent to hell. We may honor God that his divine justice has been done, but the fact of the matter is we are charged to be our brother's (or sister's) keeper here on earth. Every soul is sacred, every man, woman, or child is the beloved of God himself. When they say that "God so loved the world he gave his only begotten son," it's not just a catch phrase, it's a symbol of sacrifice that God was willing to be tortured and crucified for love of you. You will not burn in hell because of all kinds of thing, if you are damned, it will be because of one single, simple choice. You did not accept Jesus Christ as your personal lord and savior.

And i see repeatedly how people here write about goths being scary?

Goth's are not scary, they're simply socially maladjusted. The goth movement is one the greatest walking self-absorbed cry-for-help-to-Mommy-and-Daddy society has to offer. There is an inherent degree of immaturity at play here where a bunch of bird are sticking their heads in the ground instead of hurting their eyes by living in the bright world of reality above. Goth's need to accept the challenges and consequences of an adult world and leave their self-absorbed and harmful ways behind them.

This is proof of people being told over and over what is bad, they have never actually spoken to a goth person, but they were told they're evil, and of course we all trust what we are being told, we don't just go there and find out for ourselves, because if we do, we have also been told we will burn in hell. Right?

My half-brother was a goth and I had to endure the occasion witnessing him attempting to hang himself from the bottom rung of the bunk bed we shared growing up. To see someone looping a black leather cord around their neck and slowly asphyxiate themselves inches away from where you lay your heard to rest at night gives you perspective on the detriments of the gothic ideal. It is harmful.


As far as going to hell for seeking wisdom, I'll reference my favorite passge good old Proverbs 2:1-5

"My son, if thou wilt receive my words, and hide my commandments with theel; So that thou incline thine ear unto wisdom, and apply thine heart to to understanding; Yea if thou criest after knowledge, and liftest up thy voice for understanding; If thou seekest her as silver, and searchest for her as hidden treasure; The shalt thou know the fear of the LORD, and find the knowledge of God."

[Bummer]

Re: Teenager 'murdered young woman for dressing as a Goth'

A Christian will never want to see a soul sent to hell. We may honor God that his divine justice has been done, but the fact of the matter is we are charged to be our brother's (or sister's) keeper here on earth. Every soul is sacred, every man, woman, or child is the beloved of God himself. When they say that "God so loved the world he gave his only begotten son," it's not just a catch phrase, it's a symbol of sacrifice that God was willing to be tortured and crucified for love of you. You will not burn in hell because of all kinds of thing, if you are damned, it will be because of one single, simple choice. You did not accept Jesus Christ as your personal lord and savior.

Yes but you must keep open to the fact that other people have other beliefs and you should respect that. The problem is when a religion starts persecuting people for not believing what they believe. This is wrong. I don't think it's a good thing that jesus, not god right? Was crucified and tortured, this is horrible. The less violence the better.

Goth's are not scary, they're simply socially maladjusted. The goth movement is one the greatest walking self-absorbed cry-for-help-to-Mommy-and-Daddy society has to offer. There is an inherent degree of immaturity at play here where a bunch of bird are sticking their heads in the ground instead of hurting their eyes by living in the bright world of reality above. Goth's need to accept the challenges and consequences of an adult world and leave their self-absorbed and harmful ways behind them.

Well I've seen forum threads here even where people ask what to do about the goths in their neighborhood etc, and repeatedly in this thread that goths are scary. So people do seem afraid of innocent kids. Of course there is immaturity in play when it's teenagers, however there are adult goths as well, but they don't harm you, they're not evil. They accept you for what you believe and let you live your life in peace. Who are you to decide what is right and wrong and what is harmful?

My half-brother was a goth and I had to endure the occasion witnessing him attempting to hang himself from the bottom rung of the bunk bed we shared growing up. To see someone looping a black leather cord around their neck and slowly asphyxiate themselves inches away from where you lay your heard to rest at night gives you perspective on the detriments of the gothic ideal. It is harmful.

I'm sorry about your brother and i hope today he's feeling better, but if he tried to hang himself it probably had nothing to do with him being goth, this was a cry for help and might as well have had it's base in religion, or any other big factor in his life. This is not connected in any way to being goth, christians commit suicide as well.

As far as going to hell for seeking wisdom, I'll reference my favorite passge good old Proverbs 2:1-5

"My son, if thou wilt receive my words, and hide my commandments with theel; So that thou incline thine ear unto wisdom, and apply thine heart to to understanding; Yea if thou criest after knowledge, and liftest up thy voice for understanding; If thou seekest her as silver, and searchest for her as hidden treasure; The shalt thou know the fear of the LORD, and find the knowledge of God."

Well you can't say god knows everything, the answer to everything cannot be in the bible. Besides you need to think for yourself. Pick another religion, one you really don't like, consider you grew up there, born into another religion. Don't you see your point of view would be different? Then you would be cursing christianity instead. The only consistant thing is science and trust in yourself. Common sense, being a good person in general, not by someone elses rules. Why can't you be alone with your own mind and thougts and still go to heaven, that's what i wanna know. Sounds to me like your god finds ways to control people, well, finding priests who then aqcouires a lot of power and control interpreting the bible to people. What i see is people being controlled by fear, "if you don't do this and that you go to hell". And don't aquire knowledge, don't believe in science, then you go to hell. Wuhu. Yes, great. Is this not controlling by fear?

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Teenager 'murdered young woman for dressing as a Goth'

Yes but you must keep open to the fact that other people have other beliefs and you should respect that.

Bunion, this is simply wrong!
Ex:20:3: Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

The problem is when a religion starts persecuting people for not believing what they believe. This is wrong.

No! No! No! Keep well away from the unrighteous!
2nd Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
2nd Corinthians 6:15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
2nd Corinthians 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
2nd Corinthians 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate , saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

I don't think it's a good thing that jesus, not god right?

I hope you get an infraction for this blasphemy!!! Jesus IS God – He is part of the Holy Trinity The Father The Son and The Holy Spirit! – He is one with and in them!

[…]however there are adult goths as well, but they don't harm you, they're not evil.

This is simply wrong! They are against God and, as you know, or should do, either you are for God or against Him. Goths are a walking advert for Satan!

They accept you for what you believe and let you live your life in peace.

I do not see what evidence you have for that! How can a normal person’s life be peaceful when their senses are constantly bombarded with walking visions from the Pit of Brimstone?

Who are you to decide what is right and wrong and what is harmful?

I am Bathfire E., True Christian! We must look into the world and see what is right and what is wrong – what God wants and what he reprobates!

I'm sorry about your brother and i hope today he's feeling better, but if he tried to hang himself it probably had nothing to do with him being goth, this was a cry for help

You don’t cry loud with a noose round your neck!

This is not connected in any way to being goth, christians commit suicide as well.

If you take part in activities displeasing to God, how can you have happiness and peace?

Well you can't say god knows everything,

Ahem… “God knows everything”… There, I said it! But more importantly, so did God,
Psalms:139:1: O LORD, thou hast searched me, and known me.
Psalms:139:2: Thou knowest my downsitting and mine uprising, thou understandest my thought afar off.
Psalms:139:3: Thou compassest my path and my lying down, and art acquainted with all my ways.
Psalms:139:4: For there is not a word in my tongue, but, lo, O LORD, thou knowest it altogether.
Or, from the New Testament,
Lu:12:6: Are not five sparrows sold for two farthings, and not one of them is forgotten before God?

the answer to everything cannot be in the bible.

Yes it can and, in fact, IT IS! Glory! Your life on earth is a life of selfless praise for your Creator. His Word is the start and finish!
Re:1:11: Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
Re:21:6: And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
Re:22:13: I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

Besides you need to think for yourself.

This is fatal to the soul’s chance of Salvation – the LAST thing you want to do is “think for yourself” – that way is the pathway to Hell! Why would we have the Bible if we were to think for ourselves???

Pick another religion, one you really don't like, consider you grew up there, born into another religion. Don't you see your point of view would be different?

Indeed! Without God your moral compass and your thought patterns would be those of The Father of Lies!

Then you would be cursing christianity instead.

and your soul damned for eternity!

The only consistant thing is science and trust in yourself. Common sense, being a good person in general, not by someone elses rules.

Psalms:4:5: Offer the sacrifices of righteousness, and put your trust in the LORD.

Why can't you be alone with your own mind and thougts and still go to heaven, that's what i wanna know.

Why can you not drive a car without obeying the law? Why should you not have a gun without safety training? Why should you not operate on peoples’ brains without having some medical knowledge?

What i see is people being controlled by fear,

De:6:24: And the LORD commanded us to do all these statutes, to fear the LORD our God, for our good always, that he might preserve us alive, as it is at this day.

Bunion, you are a godless cretin!

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Re: Teenager 'murdered young woman for dressing as a Goth'

Well to me it seems if you consider yourself a "true christian" you can use your religion to justify anything you like. It's very convenient.

That simply untrue! If some sodomite wanted to justify his filthy habit with the Bible, he wouldn't be able to do so at all! The Bible can only be used to justify what God justifies in the Bible!

to me you can't say what God wants even if you have the Bible.

God gave us the Bible to tell us what He wants! Why else would He have written it? What a ridiculous thing to say.

How can you know it's truth? How can you know the bible is IT? There is no way of knowing.

I open my Bible and I feel God there! That's how to know, and you'd feel Him too if only you'd open yourself to His embrace.

This is a problem with a religion such as Christianity, it holds you by fear

Nonsense. While you should be God fearing, it's not meant like that. I'm a Christian because I love the Lord and His temporary sacrifice to give me salvation!

What about, you think for yourself and do what makes sense, make your own choices

Do you know what I find funny? How many people who have come here over the years and told us we should think for ourselves. Do you know why I find that funny? Because when they say we should "think for ourselves" what they really mean is that we should think like them. It never seems to occur to them that we thought for ourselves and found Jesus.

Yes killing is wrong, in this case, i agree with you, of course i would in that moment make a choice and choose to protect the person who means the most to me. But the drug addict might not be a bad person, it might be someone like you even, someone who just happened to have a lot of tragic events in his/hers life and in need of something turned to drugs, these people often find their way back to normal life again. Anyone can stray right? Should you not forgive them, though if this person was pure evil, someone who wanted bad intentionally, i could not forgive them, but i could probably understand how they ended up being like that. And i could wish the person to go to jail for the crime. But yeah if i had to choose i would kill that person in that instant if there was no other way, it doesn't make me right though.

And by the time you finished running all that around in your head, not only would your loved ones be dead, so would you.

death penalty is also wrong.

Nonsense. I can't think of one executed murderer who went on to kill again.

Lifetime for brutal intentional murder, yes, but killing people, it's not up to us, it's nature.

In all this nonsense, you actually did get one thing right. It's not up to us, it's up to God and He gave us the guidelines to follow in His Holy Word.

We can lock them up to make ourselves feel safe but we have no right taking lives, that makes us just the same as a murderer.

Of course we have the right. Both God and the United States of America give us the right to perform legal executions.

Well I'm glad you think so, i have my trust in science and facts, we cannot know what will happen in the future, also makes it a bit exciting. I do believe we some day will live all in harmony, but everyone will have their own belief and accept all others.

And that's why you're doomed to eternity in Hell unless you change your ways.

Well it can't be hateful if this is what i believe is the best for them right?

That atheist Hitler thought it was best for the hundreds, possibly thousands of Jews who died in the Holocaust to be killed. Hateful is hateful, no matter what anti-God nonsense you believe.

Since i don't believe in a god, things are what you make them yourself, the baby in a rolling carriage really is not the same thing, how can you compare that?

"I don't believe in this hill the baby carriage is on, so it's not really rolling towards the baby's doom." Hardening your heart and denying the reality of God is no excuse!

Everyone chooses for themselves, i think it's great you want good for people, you think your belief is the right one etc, i understand it's that strong for you, but you need to understand i believe something different, just as strong as you.

And you just expect me to let Satan have you? I don't think so.

To me this is the way. And i don't try to convert other people, nor tell them they will burn in hell or be punished for their beliefs, i just ask them to be respectful to others, no matter who it is, and that will give them happiness, there is nothing to be afraid of, no god will punish you for not following it's words, just be a decent human being and things will go well for you.

That is one of the most disgusting, evil things I have ever had the misfortune to read. You truly are a monster.

Of course murder and theft is wrong. What is wrong with your belief is that you say it's wrong... and after comes "unless it's a heathen, gay person, witch etc" you make exceptions.

Not at all. We don't steal from or murder sodomites or witches. The legal system should try them in a court of law and execute them, yes, but that's not murder.

There is nothing wrong with abortion, unless you do it over and over and don't care, now that would be different, but i think you just wanted to hear my opinion on that. Somehow "Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to the people you think should be killed. So what is the difference here?

Again, you are a monster with a black, dark, withered heard. On top of that, you completely ignored how I already explained how "Thou shalt not kill" refers to murder, not the perfectly legal executions God sanctions and we should work to place into secular law. We are also commanded to obey secular law, so therefore we don't stone witches or sodomites.

If a teenage girl becomes pregnant don't you think it's best for her to have a child later in life?

If she doesn't have the willpower to save herself for marriage, that's not the baby's fault! If she does the crime, she should do the time!

Well i never cheated on any of my boyfriends (yes i'm a girl don't worry), but people grow apart and at some point you might have to end a relationship, so you do it, both people agree and move on in life, it's natrual. I must say i dislike people who do commit adultery, you should just end your relationship before this happens.

This isn't God's plan for us at all!

Matthew 19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

Mark 10:11 And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.
10:12 And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.

I know what you're thinking. If you don't get married, it's all good! Wrong. God doesn't much like fornicators.

1 Corinthians 5:9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
5:10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.
5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

And hey, i agree, don't spread diseases, use a condom!

Again, monster.

And it makes sense if you think about it, back then i'm sure the bible made perfect sense but not today, i'm sorry, it's just too far fetched we can live today by something written so long ago.

Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.