[Didymus Much]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

okay, enough I have gone though this entire forum and its frankly childish. I m putting my two sense in cause well both sides have grievously managed to screw up some very important facts. First off Christians were never persecuted by all the emperors of Rome just two and that was Diocletian and Nero and frankly Nero was slightly insane so give the guy a break.Also while your on the subject what about the 3 million Jews who were persecuted by Christians during the 1300's care to explain that cause I m pretty sure it's ironic that you were persecuting your Saviors ethnic group and up until his death Jesus never broke with the Jewish Church. Also I frankly remember Christians murdering every inhabitant of Jerusalem including fellow Christians that has never happened in an Islamic takeover in fact when Muhammad received his vision he offered an olive branch out to both Christian Branches at the time cause baptism was around yet and Christianity wasn't around until second temple Jerusalem but it was rejected but it is still in Sharia or Islamic law to respect the dhimmis or people of the book (ie. Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddists, and Wiccans). Also I m pretty sure Baptism didn't come around till the Lutheran Reformation so no Christianity hasn't been around since the beginning of time it been around since Jesus's gospel teachings and frankly if you believe in the trinity and the Nicene creed which was presided over by a unbiased party cause in those times the roman empire did not have a specific religion but during Constantine's rule it became a favored religion. However Paganism and Wicca have been around far longer than Gerald Gardener, even in old times there was never blood sacrificing or baby killing, paganism is a peaceful religion that believes in tolerance. There is no such thing as hell only reincarnation and summer land in other words you stay on earth till you learn your lessons you were meant to learn. There is no need for the childish insults being passed around such as changing each others names or saying go to hell last time I checked most of you were adults so why don't you grow a pair and act like it. Also if your going to argue get your facts straight first instead of random phases out of the bible which are not Jesus', considering the bible has been translated from Hebrew to Latin then to the vernacular and most books were written about half a century after his death so it has lost a lot of its original meanings and much were obscured by other peoples interpretations and by the way if you didn't know you borrowed you entire old testament from the Jewish Tanakh. Also to my fellow Wiccans remember the creed and to those Christians who preach fire and brimstone just remember do unto to others what you want to you.

Proofreading: it's a good thing.

[talaaries]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

Your really not helping by grouping Satanism and Wicca/Paganism in the same group or saying anything about the blood sacrifice. I don't care to be accepted by the narcissistic people but trying to help those who are less sure of themselves find strength in the path they have chosen. Blessed be

[talaaries]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

yea thanks I lost my temper there for a minute will do next time. As for everyone else I truly do not care what you think you can take what I said or you can leave it but i am thankful that I do not have hate in my heart.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

Your really not helping by grouping Satanism and Wicca/Paganism in the same group...

According to the Bible, there are only two groups that really matter: True Christians™ (who are going to Heaven) and everyone else (that are going to Hell).

...or saying anything about the blood sacrifice...

Bragging about your knowledge of the blood sacrifice won't win you any friends here.

...trying to help those who are less sure of themselves find strength in the path they have chosen...

But what if the path they've chosen will get them sent to Hell (according to the Bible)?

Should they not be warned? Why do you want people to go to Hell?

...Blessed be

By who or what? What evidence have your "gods" ever given you of their existence (that cannot be attributed to chance and positive thinking)?

[Mark L. Snyde, PhD]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

Your really not helping...

Allow me to impart some knowledge...

"Your" is a possessive pronoun that indicates something belongs to, or pertains to, you.

What you want to use here, is the contraction "You're" which means you are.

For example (pertaining to Wiccans):

Your worship of Satan will lead you to hell.

vs.

You're going to hell because you worship Satan.

Do you see the difference? Communicating effectively is a good thing too.

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

it is still in Sharia or Islamic law to respect the dhimmis or people of the book (ie. Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddists, and Wiccans).

People of the Book refers to Jews and Christians, not any those other religions.

However Paganism and Wicca have been around far longer than Gerald Gardener,

Paganism has been around for a long time. Wicca is just a recent invention.

There is no such thing as hell only reincarnation and summer land in other words you stay on earth till you learn your lessons you were meant to learn.

Prove that summer land exists. Prove that people get reincarnated.

[WWJDnow]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

what about the 3 million Jews who were persecuted by Christians during the 1300's care to explain that

You should talk to the Catholics about that, not us. We are Christians, and we love our Jewish neighbors, provided they do what God wants them to do and move to the Holy Land.

Also I frankly remember Christians murdering every inhabitant of Jerusalem

Hey, we're with you here. It is simply wrong to kill non-Muslims in Jerusalem. You'll have to ask the Catholics why they did that.

it is still in Sharia or Islamic law to respect the dhimmis or people of the book (ie. Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddists, and Wiccans).

I don't know what a dhimmi is, or care to find out, but if the Muslims want to respect us, they should lay down their weapons and stop attacking us. As for Hindus, Buddhists, and Wiccans, I'm pretty sure the Muslims don't consider them to be peoples of the book--they consider them to be evil pagan idolaters. Sometimes even the Muslims get it right.

I m pretty sure Baptism didn't come around till the Lutheran Reformation

I suppose you never heard of John the Baptist?

last time I checked most of you were adults so why don't you grow a pair and act like it

That's a real adult thing to say.

the bible has been translated from Hebrew to Latin then to the vernacular and most books were written about half a century after his death so it has lost a lot of its original meanings and much were obscured by other peoples interpretations and by the way if you didn't know you borrowed you entire old testament from the Jewish Tanakh.

This is why we quote only the 1611 version of the King James Bible, which is God's One True Version(TM) of the Bible.

Also to my fellow Wiccans remember the creed and to those Christians who preach fire and brimstone just remember do unto to others what you want to you.

So much for Wiccans being all peaceful.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

There is no such thing as hell only reincarnation

And you know this for sure how?

[talaaries]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

People of the Book refers to Jews and Christians, not any those other religions.



Paganism has been around for a long time. Wicca is just a recent invention.



Prove that summer land exists. Prove that people get reincarnated.

Prove that hell exists. Prove that people go to heaven

[talaaries]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

it wrong to attack Muslims too and they are just defending their home. The U.S is who invaded them not the other way around we invaded their sacred spaces such as Mecca and Medina. I am not an adult either so as for the grow a pair comment it was perfectly in line. oh and john the Baptist did not create baptism just saying

[talaaries]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

and you know their is hell for sure? King James's version was created after it was translated into vernacular languages and was declared that by king James's and papal authority.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

it wrong to attack Muslims too and they are just defending their home. The U.S is who invaded them not the other way around we invaded their sacred spaces such as Mecca and Medina.

We did?

I don't think we attacked Mecca or Medina, unfortunately. And why are you so worried about the muzzies? They would kill you in a second for idolatry and witchcraft.

Baptist did not create baptism just saying

Oh? Who did? The Muslims?

[Levi Jones]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

and you know their is hell for sure?

I am as sure of it as I am sure there is a God.

Are you sure there is a a goddess?

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

okay, enough I have gone though this entire forum and its frankly childish.

Hello, and welcome to our friendly forums! What church do you go to?

I m putting my two sense in cause well both sides have grievously managed to screw up some very important facts.

Is that so? How well do you know the Holy Bible or the Heart of Jesus, dear?

First off Christians were never persecuted by all the emperors of Rome just two and that was Diocletian and Nero and frankly Nero was slightly insane so give the guy a break.Also while your on the subject what about the 3 million Jews who were persecuted by Christians during the 1300's care to explain that cause I m pretty sure it's ironic that you were persecuting your Saviors ethnic group and up until his death Jesus never broke with the Jewish Church. Also I frankly remember Christians murdering every inhabitant of Jerusalem including fellow Christians that has never happened in an Islamic takeover in fact when Muhammad received his vision he offered an olive branch out to both Christian Branches at the time cause baptism was around yet and Christianity wasn't around until second temple Jerusalem but it was rejected but it is still in Sharia or Islamic law to respect the dhimmis or people of the book (ie. Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddists, and Wiccans). Also I m pretty sure Baptism didn't come around till the Lutheran Reformation so no Christianity hasn't been around since the beginning of time it been around since Jesus's gospel teachings and frankly if you believe in the trinity and the Nicene creed which was presided over by a unbiased party cause in those times the roman empire did not have a specific religion but during Constantine's rule it became a favored religion. However Paganism and Wicca have been around far longer than Gerald Gardener, even in old times there was never blood sacrificing or baby killing, paganism is a peaceful religion that believes in tolerance. There is no such thing as hell only reincarnation and summer land in other words you stay on earth till you learn your lessons you were meant to learn. There is no need for the childish insults being passed around such as changing each others names or saying go to hell last time I checked most of you were adults so why don't you grow a pair and act like it. Also if your going to argue get your facts straight first instead of random phases out of the bible which are not Jesus', considering the bible has been translated from Hebrew to Latin then to the vernacular and most books were written about half a century after his death so it has lost a lot of its original meanings and much were obscured by other peoples interpretations and by the way if you didn't know you borrowed you entire old testament from the Jewish Tanakh. Also to my fellow Wiccans remember the creed and to those Christians who preach fire and brimstone just remember do unto to others what you want to you.

Wow, I'm sorry, but that just went on and on and on and on and on and on and on and oh my dear word, I thought it would never stop. Just for your information, Jesus was not a jew, the jews don't go to church, Christians are the most persecuted people in the world today and have been since Jesus, and reincarnation is a silly fairy tale for people afraid to grow up and face facts.

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[Mark L. Snyde, PhD]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

Prove that hell exists. Prove that people go to heaven

Have you not read The Bible?

Here is the proof, oh ye of ignorance:

John 14:2 - In my Father's house are many mansions: if [it were] not [so], I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

Revelation 22:1-5 - And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

Luke 23:43 - And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

Matthew 25:46 - And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Revelation 21:21-25 - And the twelve gates [were] twelve pearls; every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city [was] pure gold, as it were transparent glass.

Revelation 21:19 - And the foundations of the wall of the city [were] garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation [was] jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;

Revelation 21:18 - And the building of the wall of it was [of] jasper: and the city [was] pure gold, like unto clear glass.

Matthew 25:41 - Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Matthew 10:28 - And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Matthew 25:46 - And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

God makes it very clear that one of two things happens to your soul upon death...heaven or hell.

Where do you want to spend eternity? Jesus brought you here because you want to go to heaven. Now that you are here, it is up to you to make the right choice.