[worthlessdavid]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

rambling deletedWe're not evil, mentally ill, or possessed we just chose a different path then you did. I am not saying to become Wiccan I m saying accept that we do exist and give us the same respect we'll give it to you.

You sure? how would you know?
why do you believe in wicca ?


like the other guy said :

Matthew 7:14 (1611 King James Bible)

Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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it actually quite funny that you guys think your all high and mighty and that your religion is descended from John the Baptist but that is not true. Your religion developed during the Lutheran reformation and original started with John Zwingli original followers who later broke away from him over the issue of wither a child should be baptized and that was suitable or the followers of God had to choose to be baptized hence the name of the group was Anabaptists or Baptists to be baptized again.

Learn your history, dear. Then you won't look like a fool.

Baptists are the original Christians

Wicca is not from the mentally ill either

You're mistaken. Sincerely believing that by mumbling a few "magic" words over things like herbs and spices you can change reality is the very definition of delusion. That's mentally ill.

... blah blah blah my papist father treated me like an altar boy and so now I do lots of naval gazing when I'm not cutting myself... All the Wiccans ask for is respect...

Would you beg us to respect pedophiles, too? What about people who sincerely believe that by porking their farm animals they're showing love and compassion? Do you want us to respect the muslim practice of chopping the heads of women who have the audacity to survive being raped? Really? Your list of things to respect is reprehensible if it includes whatever bullshit an individual happens to believe in. No. I won't respect it. It's stupid, and it's dangerous when people trust their insane beliefs to be a source of information. You can have your own opinions, but you can't have your own facts, and when you operate on the assumption your deluded opinions are based on facts, I WILL NOT RESPECT THAT OR YOU.

[Mark L. Snyde, PhD]

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...we just chose a different path then you did.

Most do.

Matthew 7:14 (1611 King James Bible)

Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way which leadeth vnto life, and few there be that finde it.

Most are therefore doomed to hell.

Let me ask you...you say you prayed to God for relief from the abuse your Catholic father put upon you...and your prayers were not answered. Did your pagan Wiccan god answer your prayers?

[talaaries]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

it actually quite funny that you guys think your all high and mighty and that your religion is descended from John the Baptist but that is not true. Your religion developed during the Lutheran reformation and original started with John Zwingli original followers who later broke away from him over the issue of wither a child should be baptized and that was suitable or the followers of God had to choose to be baptized hence the name of the group was Anabaptists or Baptists to be baptized again. Wicca is not from the mentally ill either it may not be your religion but is mine and all I m asking is for the same respect that you expect. I found this while I was researching for an essay for my college English class and what you claim does not add up with historical facts and considering that my major is anthropology I figured this would be a good warm up for the future. I have gone to church before when I was a little girl, I have two bibles that I have received from my grandmothers there family heirlooms. My grandmother is Baptist, My Grandfather is Pentecostal, my father is catholic as well as my aunt. My mother doesn't go to church but is fairly religious and spiritual. I decided of my own regard to be Wiccan because after 17 years of being abused by a disturbed father and praying to your god who did nothing I changed my religion. I am now quite happy with who I am and that will never change. All the Wiccans ask for is respect, which what you would expect from us, instead putting false things on here about blood sacrifice, eating and kidnapping children and any other ideas such as these please actually do some research. We're not evil, mentally ill, or possessed we just chose a different path then you did. I am not saying to become Wiccan I m saying accept that we do exist and give us the same respect we'll give it to you.

[leggyshay]

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If you people actually did some research besides the Bible you would actually learn. Paganism was around before Christianity. Christianity came from Paganism and then Wicca came from Paganism as well. Wicca and Paganism is actually an Earth based religion where we believe that everything comes from the Earth and goes back into the Earth. So actually learn about the religion first before judging it.

Christianity came from CHRIST... hence the name. Wicca and paganism probably came from the mentally ill.

[worthlessdavid]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

No I do not sacrifice anything. I am a modern Wiccan. I do not believe in those deities. I believe that everything comes from the earth and goes back into the earth.

That is in science, AND the Bible genesis 3:19 , you are not a wiccan.

[Pastor Ed Lowman]

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okay, enough I have gone though this entire forum and its frankly childish. I m putting my two sense in cause well both sides have grievously managed to screw up some very important facts.

Long-winded, inane rant removed! Ugg!

You didn't succeed at convincing us of anything, or even in getting your point across. But that semi-incoherent wall of text did succeed at giving me a headache.

Thanks so much.

Your really not helping by grouping Satanism and Wicca/Paganism in the same group or saying anything about the blood sacrifice. I don't care to be accepted by the narcissistic people but trying to help those who are less sure of themselves find strength in the path they have chosen. Blessed be

Translation: You are a predator of satan and you're here to lead the weak astray. Great. We're ready for you.

yea thanks I lost my temper there for a minute will do next time. As for everyone else I truly do not care what you think you can take what I said or you can leave it but i am thankful that I do not have hate in my heart.

Is THAT why you think we are persecuting gays, taking away healthcare, banning abortion, replacing the Constitution with the Bible, and otherwise censoring the free speech of the free world???

Well, you need to know that we are doing so because we love God...

John 15:18-19: 18If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. 19If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

I John 3:13: 13Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.

I John 5:3: For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

Jude 21: Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

Regards,

Pastor Ed

[Pim Pendergast]

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Prove that hell exists. Prove that people go to heaven

I don't know if you're familiar with the parable of Lazarus (Lk 16:20-31). A man being tormented in hell pleads with Abraham to send Lazarus back from the dead to warn his brothers about hell. Abraham's response was:

Lk 16:31b If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

"Moses and the prophets" means the Old Testament. In other words, if you won't believe that hell exists because the Bible says so, then you definitely won't believe any real evidence, such as someone who has seen hell coming back from the dead to tell you all about it.

So. I have proved that hell exists. How do I know heaven exists? Simple. If heaven didn't exist, Jesus would have told us so!

Jn 14:2 2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

That was too easy. What else have you got?

[Thomas Taylor]

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it wrong to attack Muslims too and they are just defending their home. The U.S is who invaded them not the other way around we invaded their sacred spaces such as Mecca and Medina. I am not an adult either so as for the grow a pair comment it was perfectly in line. oh and john the Baptist did not create baptism just saying

Well hello, and welcome, my little wind jamming friend. Tell me who, apart from Mo the pervert, has ever invaded Mecca or Medina. If you are not an adult you should not be here, we have age restrictions on this forum, you know? How do you know that John (note the capital J) did not create baptism (provide scriptural proof of this with your reply).

[Didymus Much]

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it wrong to attack Muslims too and they are just defending their home...

By flying planes into buildings half way round the world. Riiiiiiight.

...The U.S is who invaded them not the other way around...

So you want the Taliban back in charge? Why do you hate women? Why do you hate religious freedom?

...we invaded their sacred spaces such as Mecca and Medina...

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!1!! When?

...oh and john the Baptist did not create baptism just saying

As Levi asked above, who did? Note: baptism is not a Jewish thing, either.

[Mark L. Snyde, PhD]

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Prove that hell exists. Prove that people go to heaven

Have you not read The Bible?

Here is the proof, oh ye of ignorance:

John 14:2 - In my Father's house are many mansions: if [it were] not [so], I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

Revelation 22:1-5 - And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

Luke 23:43 - And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

Matthew 25:46 - And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Revelation 21:21-25 - And the twelve gates [were] twelve pearls; every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city [was] pure gold, as it were transparent glass.

Revelation 21:19 - And the foundations of the wall of the city [were] garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation [was] jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;

Revelation 21:18 - And the building of the wall of it was [of] jasper: and the city [was] pure gold, like unto clear glass.

Matthew 25:41 - Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Matthew 10:28 - And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Matthew 25:46 - And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

God makes it very clear that one of two things happens to your soul upon death...heaven or hell.

Where do you want to spend eternity? Jesus brought you here because you want to go to heaven. Now that you are here, it is up to you to make the right choice.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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okay, enough I have gone though this entire forum and its frankly childish.

Hello, and welcome to our friendly forums! What church do you go to?

I m putting my two sense in cause well both sides have grievously managed to screw up some very important facts.

Is that so? How well do you know the Holy Bible or the Heart of Jesus, dear?

First off Christians were never persecuted by all the emperors of Rome just two and that was Diocletian and Nero and frankly Nero was slightly insane so give the guy a break.Also while your on the subject what about the 3 million Jews who were persecuted by Christians during the 1300's care to explain that cause I m pretty sure it's ironic that you were persecuting your Saviors ethnic group and up until his death Jesus never broke with the Jewish Church. Also I frankly remember Christians murdering every inhabitant of Jerusalem including fellow Christians that has never happened in an Islamic takeover in fact when Muhammad received his vision he offered an olive branch out to both Christian Branches at the time cause baptism was around yet and Christianity wasn't around until second temple Jerusalem but it was rejected but it is still in Sharia or Islamic law to respect the dhimmis or people of the book (ie. Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddists, and Wiccans). Also I m pretty sure Baptism didn't come around till the Lutheran Reformation so no Christianity hasn't been around since the beginning of time it been around since Jesus's gospel teachings and frankly if you believe in the trinity and the Nicene creed which was presided over by a unbiased party cause in those times the roman empire did not have a specific religion but during Constantine's rule it became a favored religion. However Paganism and Wicca have been around far longer than Gerald Gardener, even in old times there was never blood sacrificing or baby killing, paganism is a peaceful religion that believes in tolerance. There is no such thing as hell only reincarnation and summer land in other words you stay on earth till you learn your lessons you were meant to learn. There is no need for the childish insults being passed around such as changing each others names or saying go to hell last time I checked most of you were adults so why don't you grow a pair and act like it. Also if your going to argue get your facts straight first instead of random phases out of the bible which are not Jesus', considering the bible has been translated from Hebrew to Latin then to the vernacular and most books were written about half a century after his death so it has lost a lot of its original meanings and much were obscured by other peoples interpretations and by the way if you didn't know you borrowed you entire old testament from the Jewish Tanakh. Also to my fellow Wiccans remember the creed and to those Christians who preach fire and brimstone just remember do unto to others what you want to you.

Wow, I'm sorry, but that just went on and on and on and on and on and on and on and oh my dear word, I thought it would never stop. Just for your information, Jesus was not a jew, the jews don't go to church, Christians are the most persecuted people in the world today and have been since Jesus, and reincarnation is a silly fairy tale for people afraid to grow up and face facts.

In the meantime, you are most welcome to introduce yourself HERE so we can greet you properly! You can read all kinds of helpful information on this thread for newcomers like yourself. If you’d like to share your opinion, kindly provide the Scriptural Support where we can see how wonderfully God said it first. Finally, your rights on our forum can be found HERE.

[Levi Jones]

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and you know their is hell for sure?

I am as sure of it as I am sure there is a God.

Are you sure there is a a goddess?

[Levi Jones]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

it wrong to attack Muslims too and they are just defending their home. The U.S is who invaded them not the other way around we invaded their sacred spaces such as Mecca and Medina.

We did?

I don't think we attacked Mecca or Medina, unfortunately. And why are you so worried about the muzzies? They would kill you in a second for idolatry and witchcraft.

Baptist did not create baptism just saying

Oh? Who did? The Muslims?

[talaaries]

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and you know their is hell for sure? King James's version was created after it was translated into vernacular languages and was declared that by king James's and papal authority.