[LongpigtIsLong]

Re: Regarding Marijuana

Why would you come to a Christian Church website to argue about what the Bible says about marijuana, when you are not Christian and have no knowledge of the Bible?

I actually came to the website through a google image search, and the lulz I had upon reading some of the topics were big enough that I wanted to see how you would respond to my arguments.

Who are you to come to a Christian Church forum and insult Christians, by saying that our following of God's Law is not "rational"? You know nothing OF God's Law! You listen to a couple of hippie-pot-smoking feelgood wannabe Christians, who go on about "God is Loooove, doood!" and completely ignore His Word as much as you do.

When I call an argument "rational," i mean that it is derived from logic and thought, as opposed to being derived from the words of a deity. By that definition, your arguments, which are supported by God's words and not your own, are not rational. That is all I meant.

This forum has a delightful "Bible in a Year" section. Why not try reading the Bible? You might just learn why your so-called "rational" arguments fall on deaf ears; we Christians are made deaf and blind to anything but God's Words.

Every word that proceedeth from the mouth of God, missy. EVERY word, not just the ones your burnout stoner friends think are "kewl".

I actually read a fair amount Genesis once. It was pretty good; interesting stories, lots of sex, lots of smiting. But I read it objectively, as I would read any historical document. I don't believe that it is possible for me to suddenly start believing in God, especially considering my love of science and knowledge.

I would appreciate it if you (and most people in this forum) made fewer unfounded assumptions. I have noticed that you tend to make shallow attacks on people who disagree with you on religious matters; attacks on their supposed appearance or supposed social life instead of on their arguments alone.

I didn't see any point in saying this before, but in response to your inferences about my "burnout stoner friends," I will note that few of my friends smoke, and those that do, do so responsibly while balancing their school work; such must be the nature of anyone who wishes to attain a degree from the top rated engineering school in the country.

[LongpigtIsLong]

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And now you say women don't go to Hell?

*sigh* no, that is not what I said. Those were two independent facts that I put in the same sentence and separated with an "and."

You morality also comes out of a book. Except instead of being written by God the book is written by Ayn Raynd.

I don't consider "take everything you can, screw everyone and everything else" morality. Frankly that is the antithesis of morality.

Ayn Raynd is dead and can not save you from Hell, only Jesus can.

There is a difference between reading a book, contemplating the ideas is presents, and incorporating some of those ideas into one's own philosophy, and taking one's entire moral system verbatim out of said book. I do indeed have things in common with Ayn Rand: beliefs in capitalism, individuality, free will, and atheism, but i do not agree with all of her ideas.

I would also like to point out that Jesus is just as dead as Ayn Rand is.

Go Bible.com, they have the Bible in easy to search, on-line format.

I strongly suggest at lest you read the chapters those verses are quoted from. If you are the "rationalist" you claim to be you shouldn't be adverse to the exposure to different ideas. But you are atheist so I doubt you will do it.

Thank you for the suggestion. Next time I need to use scripture for my own purposes I will definitely utilize that resource. I agree that I should have been more familiar with the material I was quoting. My arguments would have been much more effective.

For the record, I do not consider myself to be a "rationalist;" I have found that my philosophy is most in accord with existentialism. Although there is quite a bit of variation within existentialist thought, the basic idea is the same.
And before someone comments on my post about arguing rationally, I believe that debates can be rational. I believe that people cannot. Consider the difference between those two statements.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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I would appreciate it if you (and most people in this forum) made fewer unfounded assumptions. I have noticed that you tend to make shallow attacks on people who disagree with you on religious matters; attacks on their supposed appearance or supposed social life instead of on their arguments alone.

When have I commented upon your supposed appearance?

Now, I did assume that you are hanging out with loser hippie stoners, for the simple reason that you handed us a big steaming pile of "God loves everybody" hooey. That's what hippies believe, isn't it?

After all, what rational person would think that a God who "loves everybody" would drown EVERYBODY except one man and his family, along with ALL the animals except a handful, because He didn't LIKE the way they didn't follow His laws?

I wonder what PETA would think of that!

[LongpigtIsLong]

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When have I commented upon your supposed appearance?

That comment was to the forum in general. I observed it done to other people

Now, I did assume that you are hanging out with loser hippie stoners, for the simple reason that you handed us a big steaming pile of "God loves everybody" hooey. That's what hippies believe, isn't it?

I wouldn't know; I'm not friends with hippies. They're generally socialist pinkos who think that their way of thinking is the only right way. I don't believe in God; when I made that statement, I was trying to

After all, what rational person would think that a God who "loves everybody" would drown EVERYBODY except one man and his family, along with ALL the animals except a handful, because He didn't LIKE the way they didn't follow His laws?

I wonder what PETA would think of that!

From what I've gathered, Old Testament God was all vengeful and angry and whatnot. New Testament God didn't do much smiting. New Testament God was pretty peaceful.

PETA is ridiculous. I don't pay attention to them.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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I would like to take this opportunity to reiterate that I am female and do not fear threats of Hell. As are you, I am confident in my beliefs, and using the rhetoric of another belief system will not persuade me. This is why I have used biblical rhetoric to present my arguments to you; you can more easily understand them than you would secular arguments (such as upholding the constitution, quoting out founding fathers on drug policy, etc). I won't expect you to be able to engage in such a debate considering the nature of this forum, but i hope now you will not expect me to be affected by, or to change my actions because of your assertions that I will burn in the lake of fire.

It's quite obvious that you are a female. You are unable to formulate an independent thought. While we appreciate your apology, it isn't really necessary. True Christians™ are used to dealing with addle-brained feminazi dope addicts like you.

I'm wondering why you are here. You reject the Holy Bible, mock God and have admitted to doing the work of satan. You want to engage us in debate when we have explicitly stated that this is NOT a debate forum.Do you imagine yourself to be original? Do you think that you're the first wad of unsaved scum to wander into God's favorite forum and tell us that taking dope is somehow endorsed by God?

Run along little girl. Go ask your mother to teach you how to make a decent pie crust or something useful. That banner at the top of the page that proclaims "Unsaved, Unwelcome" means just what it says.

[SUV]

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...and how would Pastor like for We Ladies™ to come to Church looking like:

[LongpigtIsLong]

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It's quite obvious that you are a female. You are unable to formulate an independent thought.

I don't recall any Christian ever forming an independent thought. Wouldn't that be blasphemy?

While we appreciate your apology, it isn't really necessary. True Christians™ are used to dealing with addle-brained feminazi dope addicts like you.

I also don't see an apology in the quoted text. I know its futile because you're throwing around claims that are backed up by nothing, but i can't resist the need to point out the various ways in which this statement is incorrect. First of all, I don't know if you guys were aware, but the word "feminazi" was coined before you started using it, and you're using it incorrectly. "feminazi" is a slang term referring to a woman who is a militant, angry, left-wing feminist. the only think i have in common with those women is that I have a vagina. Aside from mentioning it to end confusion about my sex, that fact is irrelevant. Second of all, I am addicted to no substances or behaviors (marijuana is not an addictive substance anyway). I am a very strong willed individual; if I have been partaking in a behavior that I decide is no longer desirable, I can easily stop. You guys might call that resisting temptation. I suppose the only difference is that you need God to help you, whereas I am self-reliant.

I'm wondering why you are here. You reject the Holy Bible, mock God and have admitted to doing the work of satan. You want to engage us in debate when we have explicitly stated that this is NOT a debate forum.Do you imagine yourself to be original? Do you think that you're the first wad of unsaved scum to wander into God's favorite forum and tell us that taking dope is somehow endorsed by God?

I'll stop debating when you will. However, for the time being, you all continue to bring up quite debatable points. For me, one of the most effective (and fun) ways to reaffirm my beliefs is to immerse myself in an environment full of people who vehemently disagree with me. If i come out of the experience with my views unchanged, then i have a better grasp of what those views really are; if my views do somehow change, then I've learned something and I'm better off for it.

Run along little girl. Go ask your mother to teach you how to make a decent pie crust or something useful. That banner at the top of the page that proclaims "Unsaved, Unwelcome" means just what it says.

Ma doesn't cook. Fortunately, my way of "doing something useful" will be engineering robots to aid the advancement of science (and making tons of money doing it). Don't worry, though, my fiance is quite skilled in the culinary arts; I'm sure he would be happy to teach me.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Ma doesn't cook. Fortunately, my way of "doing something useful" will be engineering robots to aid the advancement of science (and making tons of money doing it). Don't worry, though, my fiance is quite skilled in the culinary arts; I'm sure he would be happy to teach me.

That your mother is a lazy bulldyke comes as no suprise. I'll bet your father didn't give you many good Christian beatings, either. No True Christian™ lady would ever talk like that.

Does your fag "fiance" know how to prepare longpig? You unsaved trash disgust Jesus and me.

[LongpigtIsLong]

Re: Regarding Marijuana

That your mother is a lazy bulldyke comes as no suprise. I'll bet your father didn't give you many good Christian beatings, either. No True Christian™ lady would ever talk like that.

Does your fag "fiance" know how to prepare longpig? You unsaved trash disgust Jesus and me.

It is hard for me to tell if you are just flaming me for the sake of simply trying making me angry (which it won't), or if you honestly believe these things.
what, exactly, do you mean by "talk like that?" Do you just mean that a "true christian" woman wouldn't contradict a man, or something else?

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

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This is not relevant to the topic, but i would also like to point out that my username merely makes a statement about the cat pictured. referring to me as said cat (or any variation thereof) would be silly. If you wish, refer to me as Alice.

You would not be a member of the Toklas family by chance?

What is obscene about it? Did you mean that it appears sexual in nature? In this case, I would suggest that you get your mind out of the gutter. If you were referring to its intended purpose of delivering smoke to one's lungs as obscene, then I ask you to expand upon your statement.

Sorry if my diagram was unclear; the device does not go *in* the mouth. If you form an O shape with your hand and place it over your closed mouth, you should find that you are able to breathe normally through your mouth. That is how it works.

It's obscene because it looks like one of those quack penis enlargement devices.

[Sister Rebecca]

Re: Regarding Marijuana

It is hard for me to tell if you are just flaming me for the sake of simply trying making me angry (which it won't), or if you honestly believe these things.
what, exactly, do you mean by "talk like that?" Do you just mean that a "true christian" woman wouldn't contradict a man, or something else?

First of all, we believe EXACTLY what we TELL you we believe. We have no reason to lie or play games. This is OUR board and we are true to ourselves.
We True Christian women would NEVER contradict nor argue/debate nor talk with a potty mouth to our True Christian men. All others are beneath us and therefore worthy of our contempt and snobbery.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Regarding Marijuana

First of all, I don't know if you guys were aware, but the word "feminazi" was coined before you started using it, and you're using it incorrectly. "feminazi" is a slang term referring to a woman who is a militant, angry, left-wing feminist. the only think i have in common with those women is

. . .

I am a very strong willed individual

. . .

I am self-reliant.

I don't believe the Pastor has misused "feminazi" at all; from your own words, you seem to quite admirably fit the bill. Allow me to explain:

A True Christian(tm) woman is not self-reliant; she relies first upon God, and second upon her husband or father to make decisions for her.

Sure, she can do the decorating, and some husbands with particularly clever wives will allow them to set meal plans or even do the shopping. She can also garden or plow fields and raise children.

However, when it comes to important matters, such as which car to purchase, where to vacation, or the percentage of the budget to spend on a new barbeque, it is the man's role to take charge. After all, he's the brains of the operation. As it is commanded in God's Word:

Genesis 3:16

Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.


Ephesians 5:22-23

Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

Rejecting the control of the husband is rejecting God's Plan. It is an act of violence against God and Christianity, and thereby does indeed qualify you for the term "feminazi", because only a "militant, angry left-wing feminist" would be so selfish as to reject God in order to satisfy her own raging cooter ego.

I'm sorry if you find these words upsetting, but God sets the rules. We merely follow them. If you choose not to follow God's rules, I believe you already know the consequences.

[eliot mayfield]

Re: Regarding Marijuana

Try this: Femiroid.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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I actually came to the website through a google image search,

OK, what copyright images have you stolen, thief?

[LongpigtIsLong]

Re: Regarding Marijuana

You would not be a member of the Toklas family by chance?

no sir.

First of all, we believe EXACTLY what we TELL you we believe. We have no reason to lie or play games. This is OUR board and we are true to ourselves.
We True Christian women would NEVER contradict nor argue/debate nor talk with a potty mouth to our True Christian men. All others are beneath us and therefore worthy of our contempt and snobbery.

I am curious which of my statements you consider to have been make with a "potty mouth." Your contempt and snobbery don't bother me, but I do find it very hard to believe that some people can make the disgusting comments they have made with any significant level of seriousness, given that the conclusions represented by these comments can only be drawn through an unreasonable amount of misinterpretation or deliberate distortion of anything that I have said. I formerly chose to assume the latter explanation because i wanted to give you all the benefit of the doubt--that is, I would rather assume that you are obnoxious and rude rather than incredibly unintelligent.

OK, what copyright images have you stolen, thief?

Haha, the image I was looking for is widely known and distributed around the internet. It is simply an amateur photograph of a teenager. The instance in which it appeared on my search was in the "Is your child a Godless goth?" thread. Knowing that threads like these are hilarious, I read and distributed it to the imageboard for which i was looking for the image, and lulz were had.

Also, protip: copyrighted images are almost always watermarked, making it impossible to "steal" them without extensive photoshopping.