[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Black Veil Brides: High Priests Of EMO Religion Now With Army To Kill All Christians

oh my goodness whatever happened to the grace of GOD making all of us worthy of white??!?!? Without His grace, none of us can lay claim to purity. We are all of us deceitful above all things and desperately wicked. Your daughter is no less worthy of white than anyone else!

In what way am I deceitful above all things and desperately wicked? Please be specific.

[Hope374]

Re: Black Veil Brides: High Priests Of EMO Religion Now With Army To Kill All Christians

Jeremiah says that the heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked. Therefore, all of us are wicked apart from the grace of Christ alone. We are in no position to condemn others as humans created in His image.

Sin and wickedness are utterly distasteful to God. However God so LOVED the WORLD that He gave His only Son... For Christ did not come into the world to condemn the world but that the world through HIM might be saved!

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Black Veil Brides: High Priests Of EMO Religion Now With Army To Kill All Christians

Jeremiah says that the heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked. Therefore, all of us are wicked apart from the grace of Christ alone. We are in no position to condemn others as humans created in His image.

Sin and wickedness are utterly distasteful to God. However God so LOVED the WORLD that He gave His only Son... For Christ did not come into the world to condemn the world but that the world through HIM might be saved!

You need to post the actual verses and stop paraphrasing.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Black Veil Brides: High Priests Of EMO Religion Now With Army To Kill All Christians

Jeremiah says that the heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked. Therefore, all of us are wicked apart from the grace of Christ alone. We are in no position to condemn others as humans created in His image.

Sin and wickedness are utterly distasteful to God. However God so LOVED the WORLD that He gave His only Son... For Christ did not come into the world to condemn the world but that the world through HIM might be saved!

Jesus DID NOT die for everyone.

He died for those that BELIEVE.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, THAT WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH IN HIM SHOULD NOT PERISH, but have everlasting life.
John 3:16

Everyone doesn't believe in Jesus, thus they will perish.

[Basilissa]

Re: Black Veil Brides: High Priests Of EMO Religion Now With Army To Kill All Christians

Jeremiah says that the heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked. Therefore, all of us are wicked apart from the grace of Christ alone.

Speak for yourself, sweetie:
True Christians are Perfect!

We are in no position to condemn others as humans created in His image.

Wrong. The Most MISUNDERSTOOD Passage in All the Bible (Matthew 7:1-5)

Sin and wickedness are utterly distasteful to God.

Yes.

However God so LOVED the WORLD that He gave His only Son... For Christ did not come into the world to condemn the world but that the world through HIM might be saved!

Nevertheless, God's plan is that only a tiny minority gets saved:

Matthew 7:13-14
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

[jim_bob]

Re: Black Veil Brides: High Priests Of EMO Religion Now With Army To Kill All Christians

You guys are a bunch of crazies... sorry to say. Jesus died for all!

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Black Veil Brides: High Priests Of EMO Religion Now With Army To Kill All Christians

You guys are a bunch of crazies... sorry to say. Jesus died for all!

You need to back up your claims with Scripture.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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You guys are a bunch of crazies... sorry to say. Jesus died for all!

Jesus DID NOT die for everyone.

He died for those that BELIEVE.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, THAT WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH IN HIM SHOULD NOT PERISH, but have everlasting life.
John 3:16

Everyone doesn't believe in Jesus, thus they will perish.

[Hope374]

Re: Black Veil Brides: High Priests Of EMO Religion Now With Army To Kill All Christians

"But God commendeth His love toward us in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us" (Romans 5:8)

"For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God" (1 Peter 3:18)

"The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked; who can know it?" (Jeremiah 17:9)

"But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy and not sacrifice" (Matthew 9:13)

"Here is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners among whom I am foremost of all" (1 Timothy 1:15)

We are all sinners in desperate need of Christ's forgiveness. Therefore, as such, have no right to condemn those who Christ also died for.

For example, in the Gospels, when Jesus encounters the woman caught in adultery, his response is:

"So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more." (John 8: 7-11)

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Black Veil Brides: High Priests Of EMO Religion Now With Army To Kill All Christians

"But God commendeth His love toward us in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us" (Romans 5:8)

"For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God" (1 Peter 3:18)

Who is Paul talking to here, dear? Who is the "us" Christ died for? As a matter of Biblical fact, Jesus did not die for everyone.

"The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked; who can know it?" (Jeremiah 17:9)

Which is why we must appeal to the Word of God to make sense of the Word of God, not our own minds. That only leads to a loss of faith, and God hates that.

"But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy and not sacrifice" (Matthew 9:13)

Finnish the verse dear, who does Christ come to challenge? When you read the Holy Bible, what other ways do you note God brings the sinner's attention to his sin? He chastises them (Psalm 94:12), and disciplines them (Deuteronomy 8:5), and rebukes them as a father lovingly rebukes a child (Proverbs 3:11-12), even when it hurts (Proverbs 20:30). So you see, mercy comes through recognition of sin, for only when we know we are in need of redemption can we know how much we need a Redeemer.

"Here is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners among whom I am foremost of all" (1 Timothy 1:15)

Read the very next verse, dear. Paul explains how he is the walking, talking embodiment of Christ. All True Christians™ are. If you think a True Christian™ can sin, that means you think Christ is sinning through them. Is that what you really want to accuse Jesus of?

We are all sinners in desperate need of Christ's forgiveness. Therefore, as such, have no right to condemn those who Christ also died for.

For example, in the Gospels, when Jesus encounters the woman caught in adultery, his response is:

"So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more." (John 8: 7-11)

What you seem to have a hard time grasping is that one who is truly Born Again, is born as an adopted child of God (2 Corinthians 6:18), and as a child takes on his father's DNA, a Child of God takes on the essence of his Father - that is, sinlessness (1st John 3:6-9).

[SisterMolly]

Re: Black Veil Brides: High Priests Of EMO Religion Now With Army To Kill All Christians

Hello, first I would like to introduce myself. I am a young girl who grew up with a hard past. I was always bullied, no one ever listened to a thing i said. I grew quiet. Eventually I hated myself, I thought I was a freak. Everyone bullied me for my weight or my eyes, saying I was fat or called me names. By middle school they called me Lesbian, Lesbo, you get the point. (I am straight and now have a wonderful boyfriend). I started cutting myself because hurting myself was the same thing everyone else did, they always hurt me. Always. Always. Always. I was chased and taunted and punched in the breast, smacked. It got worse. I was miserable. My parents, I wont go into that situation. I had no one. I had nothing. I had tremendous pressure because i was always trying to be better, to be smart and get good grades, be thin, be talented. Because i wanted my parents aproval. I wanted the bullying to stop. But it was never enough. I started starving, and puking because all my life i was told i was not good enough. Not thing enough. Not smart enough. Not pretty enough. I did not know what else to do. Then, I started listening to music. When i listened to it, I never heard the names. I never heard my parents screaming. I didnt have to think about all the pain everyone caused me anymore. The first band i discovered was Black Veil Brides. They saved my life because I had been contemplating suicide. No one would miss me, my parnets did not want me, i had no friends. I was alone in this world. But Black Veil Brides is not what you think it is. Please read what im telling you because i have met them, those men are really good people, god loves everyone. Andy, the leader, loves hugs and pretty, girly things. He acts like a kid sometimes. He loves unicorns too. The picture you posted of him with a broken nose is where he fell on stage, it was a accident. He is against violence. He never punches anyone or starts fights. In their spare time, they play ping pong and do autograph signings. They sponsored several anti-drug campaigns. Andy will talk to anyone who comes to him with a problem because he cares. The BVB Army is just what we call the fan base. Every fan base has a name. Like the fan bases of movies, tv shows, books. There is no cult, we dont worship Andy, Black Veil Brides, or Satan. I am christian and know many christian fans of black veil brides. Cutting is a addiction that is caused by a chemical release called dopamine that blocks pain signals. Black Veil Brides discourages cutting. Andy was born with ADHD and was bullied his entire life just like i was. He knows what its like to be alone. The message black veil brides sends is that you are not alone, and you may not fit in but you are perfect and unique the way you are. If i had not found them, i would have ended my life or starved to death. I never saw myself as pretty, not even when i was down to 79 pounds. Black veil brides actually keeps a special box with them on tour where they put the blades that their fans give them when they stop cutting. If you dont understand what that means: fans who used to cut themselves give their old blades (which is really hard because its a real addiction) to them and promise to never cut again. Black veil brides locks them up to keep the promise (no they do not cut themselves either. None of them have ever cut or attempted suicide.) here are lyric proof that of the real message bvb tries to send. "So hear my voice remind you not to bleed" this quote is Andy directly telling us not to "bleed" meaning dont cut. "So here I write my lullaby
To all the lonely ones
Remember as you learn to try
To be the one you love
So I can take this pen
And teach you how to live
What is left unsaid
The greatest gift I give"
from the same song, Andy is telling us that we are not alone and there is hope. We dont have to live the way we are, cutting and sad, always afraid. here is one you wont believe, this is the opening from their third album " The kingdom of god
is inside you and all around you.
Not in a mansion of wood and stone
Split a piece of wood and god is there
Lift a stone and you will find god" im not kidding, look up "Black Veil Brides - Exordium" if you dont believe me.
"You're not alone
We'll brave this storm
Let's face today
You're not alone" the main point bvb is sending is against bullies. They speak to the kids that get slammed into lockers and cussed every day by the people who should love them. they speak to the kids who never had a chance because they were dealt a bad hand. they tell us we are not alone, they went through it, and they lived. they never cut themselves, and they still made it. they are a inspiration that we can too. Andy was raised as a catholic, he went to a catholic private school, he respects his parents and they love him. he named the band "black veil brides" in respect for them and their religion because "black veil bride" means (and look this up if you dont believe me):"Roman Catholic term used for when a woman marries into the church and gives up all the pleasures of life to devote her life to God. She is then deemed a Black Veil Bride." Please, the things you accuse are false, you are judging men that you dont know. Only God can judge people, when we judge, we bully, and that hurts people.

[Des]

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Look,...sister, what you are calling bullying is better known as character building. It is what prepares boys and girls for the world ahead and prevents them from becoming whiny little attention seeking bitches. That this Emo cult is actively discouraging character building is a perfect example of how much they HATE you and WANT you to slit your wrists!

Now suck it up and quit whining. Nobody cares about your unimportant girly problems, and the sooner you get this through your dull witted female brain and learn to keep your mouth shut and your insignificant problems to yourself, the sooner a man will notice you, marry you, and have you churning out little Soldiers for Christ. This will finally give your life the purpose and meaning you've been sniveling about not having all these years.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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They collect bloody razor blades!



No doubt to hand them out, doused in AIDS and Hepatitis, to the young, foolish, impressionable kids at the next show. What's next, handing out mormon bibles?

[SisterMolly]

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I have never felt so un safe in my life......And i was beaten by five boys three years older than me and hospitalized once..... you call this character building? THEY DO NOT HAND OUT THE BLADES THEY TAKE THEM FROM OTHERS SO THEY CANT USE THEM, THEN THEY LOCK THEM UP FOREVER. They dont even touch them, they take them in plastic bags. God loves everyone, why are you harassing, if your child was beaten because someone accused them of something false, what would you call it then?

[Didymus Much]

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...God loves everyone...

At first I was .

Then I was .

Scripture in support of your outrageous claim, please.