[Comatoserocker]

Re: Why God Hates New Orleans (and really all of Louisiana)

I meant differently by "bowing down" First, read the other replies I sent. Also, by bowing down, i literally meant getting down on your hands and knees praising Mary like a pagan would do to a statue or idol. We venerate and honor her in prayer & song. Some people mistake that for worship, but it isn't. The Mass, or as you would call a service, is our worship, and we worship God alone. In Luke's gospel, it specifically stated "BLESSED are you amongst women" Not worshipped, but blessed. The reason we pray to Mary: all good mothers pray for their children. Mary, especially, prays for us because Jesus made her the mother of us all while He was dying on the cross. I really hope that answers your question, and I REALLY hope you can't find no way to argue around that ��

[Didymus Much]

Re: Why God Hates New Orleans (and really all of Louisiana)

...Nobody is perfect.

The Bible says many, many times that you're quite wrong. Read this thread for Biblical proof that all true believers (like the True Christians™ here) are made perfect by their faith.

...If one of us is wrong, God will forgive us when our death comes

Just what the heck do you base that on, to counter James 2:10?

James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

If you're not perfect, Jesus does not want.

[Des]

Re: Why God Hates New Orleans (and really all of Louisiana)

Well, everyone commits sins. Not only Catholics do that, so does every other religion. Nobody is perfect.

Your own words prove you to be a whore worshiping non-Christian. All True Christians™ read the Bible and know that we are without sin.


1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinnethnot; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked onetoucheth him not.


That same True Christian™ would also know that True Christians are perfect.




1 Peter 5:10 But the Godof all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, afterthat ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen,settle you.

[Comatoserocker]

Re: Why God Hates New Orleans (and really all of Louisiana)

I'm serious, you all are just coming up with dumb excuses to prove me wrong! It's not going to work, though. Ever read Genesis? Adam and Eve clearly fell into sin and created original sin, that's why we have suffering and sin. Original sin and actual sin are completely different matters, so go educate yourself. You'd never believe a word I say. Jesus knows we aren't perfect, and that's why He died on the cross. To make up for all of are sins. We have all sinned numerous times, and that's why we rely on God (not Mary, like some of you say we worship) to forgive us. And you who said we don't have a second chance after death, ever heard of Purgatory or the First Judgement? Purgatory is where, by defenition, our sins are purged away from us and we become purified, then God sends us to heaven after a time of suffering. The First Judgement is pretty self-explanatory. And anyways, even if my religion was false, I still believe in God and worship only Him. God is kind and merciful, and He will forgive me. You all better not reply and say I'm wrong, because that would be saying the Word of God is wrong. I pray to Him before I reply to anyone regarding this topic, and hopefully He has spoken to you through it.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Why God Hates New Orleans (and really all of Louisiana)

I'm serious, you all are just coming up with dumb excuses to prove me wrong!...

Call them "dumb excuses" all you want, the True Christians™ and I will continue to refer to it as "Scripture". You know, stuff from the Bible? That your faith is supposedly based on? Go ahead, ignore it, Jesus will be more than happy to welcome you no matter what you think or do. Oh, wait...

Matthew 7:21 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."

And what's our only evidence of that? The Bible. Seriously, read it and find out just how many lies the Catholic Church has sold you.

...ever heard of Purgatory...

Yeah, from Catholics (nothing about it in the Bible, tho). Just crap someone added in order to make themselves feel better, and then the Church realized what windfalls could come from making people pay for masses for the dead, and indulgences, and and and... we've got enormous, glorious cathedrals all over the world, paid for by the deprivation and suffering of billions of people the Roman church has swindled.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Why God Hates New Orleans (and really all of Louisiana)

I ever heard of Purgatory or the First Judgement?

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[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Why God Hates New Orleans (and really all of Louisiana)

Veneration and worship are completely different. Veneration is just admiring or looking up to, while worship takes that to a much higher level. Mary could not live without God, she had no part in creating the universe. God CREATED Mary, and her life depends on Him. If one of us is wrong, God will forgive us when our death comes

Yes dear, I know the distinction. I was a very faithful Catholic myself, remember? We just talked about that. I soaked up any participation in the faith I could. The Rosary was a veritable Mountain Top experience for me, spiritually anyway, so many times I couldn't wait to pray it again. I believed I felt a genuine and reciprocal relationship with Mary, but when I explored that seriously, not looking to confirm my desires but looking to find the truth, I had no choice but to realize this "relationship" was really one way. It was me, thinking hard, wishing hard, using my imagination to speak for Mary. You know when you're in the shower and you have imaginary conversations with people in your life, and you direct the conversation to go the way you want it to? That's what my interactions with Mary were. Each and every time. Even the really emotional times that left me in tears were nothing but my imagination, powerful, coupled with strong emotions, conditioned by years of RCC practices.

I'm nut surprised you feel the way you do. We're taught this by the RCC, and our family and friends who are Catholic simply support these beliefs without interjecting any opposing facts or idea. We surround ourselves in a "safe" community where our questions will be answered with assurances rather than facts. I know you feel like you venerate, not worship Mary, but I'm telling you the Roman Catholic Church has usurped the love and devotion to ancient goddesses, changed her image a bit, changed her name and function, and taught successive generations this person was really the Mary from the Bible.

Don't take my word for it, dear. Look into it yourself.