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  • MaroneyBaloney
    Unsaved trash, teenaged scottish fag
    • Aug 2014
    • 52

    #16
    Re: Circular logic?

    What is this purpose? To enter God's kingdom?
    2 Thess 3:10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

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    • Mary Etheldreda
      Gushing for Jesus
       
      • Sep 2011
      • 23775

      #17
      Re: Circular logic?

      Originally posted by Maroney00 View Post
      What is this purpose? To enter God's kingdom?
      Fear and Obedience.





      Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter:
      Fear God, and keep his commandments:
      for this is the whole duty of man.
      Ecclesiastes 12:13
      Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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      • MaroneyBaloney
        Unsaved trash, teenaged scottish fag
        • Aug 2014
        • 52

        #18
        Re: Circular logic?

        Fear and obedience were the rules under Nazi Germany, is that the mentality you'd endorse?
        2 Thess 3:10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

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        • Mary Etheldreda
          Gushing for Jesus
           
          • Sep 2011
          • 23775

          #19
          Re: Circular logic?

          Originally posted by Maroney00 View Post
          Fear and obedience were the rules under Nazi Germany, is that the mentality you'd endorse?
          They are also the rules in the US military. Do you have a problem with people who serve our country, too?

          Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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          • MaroneyBaloney
            Unsaved trash, teenaged scottish fag
            • Aug 2014
            • 52

            #20
            Re: Circular logic?

            I will be joining the army this coming fall. Fear, however, is not tenet of the military, and there is immediate reason for obedience. However, that does not excuse aggressive Christian behavior.
            2 Thess 3:10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

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            • Mary Etheldreda
              Gushing for Jesus
               
              • Sep 2011
              • 23775

              #21
              Re: Circular logic?

              Originally posted by Maroney00 View Post
              I will be joining the army this coming fall. Fear, however, is not tenet of the military, and there is immediate reason for obedience. However, that does not excuse aggressive Christian behavior.
              Safety, right?

              See the connection yet?

              Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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              • MaroneyBaloney
                Unsaved trash, teenaged scottish fag
                • Aug 2014
                • 52

                #22
                Re: Circular logic?

                No, risk of title 15, risk of arrest, as well as contractual obligation to serve the military. What's more, depending on one's career, he will get consistently polygraphed to maintain that he is still an asset to national security.
                2 Thess 3:10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

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                • Basilissa
                  South of the Border outreach program
                  True Christian™
                   
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 12984

                  #23
                  Re: Circular logic?

                  Originally posted by Maroney00 View Post
                  No, risk of title 15, risk of arrest, as well as contractual obligation to serve the military. What's more, depending on one's career, he will get consistently polygraphed to maintain that he is still an asset to national security.
                  Didn't you just say like two posts ago, that fear was not one of the tenets of the military?

                  Where's that logic of yours, again?
                  God created fossils to test our faith.

                  * * *

                  My favorite LBC sermons:
                  True Christians are Perfect!
                  True Christian™ Love.
                  Salvation™ made Easy!
                  You can’t be a Christian if you don’t believe the Old Testament.
                  Jesus is impolite. Deal with it.
                  Jesus is xenophobic and so should we.
                  Sanctity of Life is NOT a Biblical Concept.
                  Biblical view on modern-day slavery.
                  The Immorality of the "Universal Declaration of Human Rights."
                  Geneva Conventions vs. The Holy Bible.
                  God HATES Rational Thinking!
                  True Christian™ Man as a spitting image of God.

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                  • MaroneyBaloney
                    Unsaved trash, teenaged scottish fag
                    • Aug 2014
                    • 52

                    #24
                    Re: Circular logic?

                    You know what, you're right. I had an inconsistency. Thank you for pointing that out.
                    2 Thess 3:10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

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                    • MaroneyBaloney
                      Unsaved trash, teenaged scottish fag
                      • Aug 2014
                      • 52

                      #25
                      Re: Circular logic?

                      I'll be back soon with more to ask. Thank you to all contributors to this thread.
                      2 Thess 3:10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

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                      • Zechariah Smyth
                        Walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.
                        True Christian™
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 15251

                        #26
                        Re: Circular logic?

                        Title 15? Do you mean an Article 15?

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                        • MaroneyBaloney
                          Unsaved trash, teenaged scottish fag
                          • Aug 2014
                          • 52

                          #27
                          Re: Circular logic?

                          Yes, I do. Thank you for the correction.
                          2 Thess 3:10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

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                          • Zechariah Smyth
                            Walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.
                            True Christian™
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 15251

                            #28
                            Re: Circular logic?

                            Originally posted by Maroney00 View Post
                            Yes, I do. Thank you for the correction.
                            See, this is your problem in a nutshell: you've discarded the rules of God without fully knowing them, and when (if?) you enter the military you will have the same problem.

                            Amazing that people will submit themselves to the (temporary) authority of Man (Hebrews 13:17 et al) but balk when it comes to submitting to Jesus.

                            I mean, all He did was DIE for your filthy sins.



                            YiC,

                            Zech
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                            • MaroneyBaloney
                              Unsaved trash, teenaged scottish fag
                              • Aug 2014
                              • 52

                              #29
                              Re: Circular logic?

                              For some insight into the unsaved, we balk because we are too caught up in requiring the seen. Jesus' death is not all that relevant to us, we refuse blind faith, it's unsettling.

                              However, I disagree about the military. For me, the consequences are much more tangible and much more immediate. Does that make some sense, despite how wrong I am to you?
                              2 Thess 3:10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

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                              • Zechariah Smyth
                                Walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.
                                True Christian™
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 15251

                                #30
                                Re: Circular logic?

                                Originally posted by Maroney00 View Post
                                For some insight into the unsaved, we balk because we are too caught up in requiring the seen. Jesus' death is not all that relevant to us, we refuse blind faith, it's unsettling.

                                However, I disagree about the military. For me, the consequences are much more tangible and much more immediate. Does that make some sense, despite how wrong I am to you?
                                So punishment is only valid when it's immediate? Ramifications are only important if they affect you short-term? Consequences can be dismissed if you can't touch them?

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