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  • Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

    Originally posted by James Dewitt View Post
    The shekel is/was a coin. its weight was approx .35 troy ounce. Coins where either made of gold or silver. So the actual value of said female would depend on two things, the first is the shekel gold or silver? Second what is the currant trading price of the metal being used. I can only speculate that silver would be used in the case of a female, thus you have the $190-$250 dollar range.
    The other thing to be said is that the metal offered is acceptable to the girls father or other ranking male family member.
    sigpic 1 Chronicles 16:15
    Be ye mindful always of his covenant; the word which he commanded to a thousand generations ... an everlasting covenant.
    Proverbs 30:5,6: Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
    Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

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    • Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

      Is the rapist willing to marry her?

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      • Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

        Originally posted by peaceandlies View Post
        Is the rapist willing to marry her?
        He doesn't have a choice.

        @Mr Hyathle
        people..who are interpreting it wrong.
        This passage is really very clear, and not amenable to any "interpretation" other than its overt meaning.

        To me it is clear that .. ..
        But not much is clear to you really, is it? Very often the woman (who after all had inspired the rape experience) is to be killed too.

        II PETER 1
        19
        We haue also a more sure word of prophecie, whereunto yee doe well that ye take heede, as vnto a light that shineth in a darke place, vntill the day dawne, and the day starre arise in your hearts:
        20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the Scripture is of any priuate Interpretation:
        21 For the prophecie came not in olde time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moued by the holy Ghost.


        Obviously that includes Moses.

        JOHN 1 1, 4-5
        1
        In the beginning was the Word, & the Word was with God, and the Word was God..
        4 In him was life, and the life was the light of men.
        5 And the light shineth in darknesse, and the darknesse comprehended it not.


        You are substituting the darkness of your private interpretation WHICH IS DEATH for the glorious light of God's word WHICH IS LIFE.

        Joshua 24:15 And if it seeme euill vnto you to serue the Lord, choose you this day whome you will serue, whether the gods which your fathers serued that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose lande ye dwell: but as for mee and my house, we will serue the Lord.

        Why choose Death and Hell?
        God offers Life.

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        • Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

          Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
          Not once Sarah Palin takes office you don't.
          Implying that Sarah Palin will be President. She is THE dumbest politician out there.

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          • Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

            Originally posted by Harbinger View Post
            Implying that Sarah Palin will be President. She is THE dumbest politician out there.
            No, not true. I can name a few recent others that fit the bill:
            Grover Cleveland
            Woodrow Wilson
            Franklin Delano Roosevelt
            Harry S. Truman
            John Fitzgerald Kennedy
            Lyndon Baines Johnson
            James Earl 'Jimmy' Carter
            William Jefferson 'Bill' Clinton
            Osama
            Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
            Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
            Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
            Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
            Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
            Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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            • Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

              Originally posted by Harbinger View Post
              Implying that Sarah Palin will be President. She is THE dumbest politician out there.
              Of course she is, she is a woman! But with proper guidance from her husband she will implement Biblical laws and make America God's favorite country once more.
              5 Reasons why GOD HATES WOMEN!
              To most "Christians" The Bible is like a license agreement. They just scroll to the bottom and click "I agree". All those "Christians" will burn in Hell!
              James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

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              • Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

                ARE YOU SERIOUSLY SYMPATHIZING WITH THE RAPIST!?!? I don't know where you people get off on yourselves. I mean this poor girl was raped, RAPED! This guy is truely the one who will go to hell if it exists. And if God was real, I would not worship him. Especially, if he acted this way. If God was real he would not: Think she was a whore, "hate niggers", kill innocent people for not knowing the faith of Jesus Christ. You all talk about how you need to raise your children correctly. BUT HOW CAN YOU RAISE THEM, IF YOU WERE CLEARLY NOT RAISED CORRECTLY!?!?

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                • Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

                  Originally posted by RetardedAtheist View Post
                  ARE YOU SERIOUSLY SYMPATHIZING WITH THE RAPIST!?!? I don't know where you people get off on yourselves. I mean this poor girl was raped, RAPED! This guy is truely the one who will go to hell if it exists. And if God was real, I would not worship him. Especially, if he acted this way. If God was real he would not: Think she was a whore, "hate niggers", kill innocent people for not knowing the faith of Jesus Christ. You all talk about how you need to raise your children correctly. BUT HOW CAN YOU RAISE THEM, IF YOU WERE CLEARLY NOT RAISED CORRECTLY!?!?
                  Read the scriptures. We are not in favor of rape, but once rape happens, this is how the Bible says to deal with it.

                  Plus, we would never be in favor of killing someone for not knowing Jesus. We would make good and sure they had the opportunity to convert first.
                  Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.

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                  • Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

                    You poor deluded soul, if you only took the time to read and understand The Bible. You too will see how True Christians are instructed to live their lives. And when God decides to end this world you too can spend eternity in his presence.Shout Glory!
                    sigpic 1 Chronicles 16:15
                    Be ye mindful always of his covenant; the word which he commanded to a thousand generations ... an everlasting covenant.
                    Proverbs 30:5,6: Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
                    Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

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                    • Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

                      Originally posted by RetardedAtheist View Post
                      ARE YOU SERIOUSLY SYMPATHIZING WITH THE RAPIST!?!?
                      No we're discussing a situation that happened a couple of years ago and what the Bible says to do about it.
                      I don't know where you people get off on yourselves.
                      That would be masturbation and it's a sin.

                      I mean this poor girl was raped, RAPED!
                      Yeah, we get that. I don't think there's any True Christian(TM) that doesn't understand that.

                      This guy is truely the one who will go to hell if it exists.
                      Please point out in the Bible where it says that raping a virgin is a one way trip to Hell. Or are you claiming that you know better than God?

                      And if God was real, I would not worship him.
                      Ah, so you really are an atheist because you think you know better than God. Perhaps you should read Job 38 - Job 42 They're short chapters, shouldn't take you more than an hour.

                      I'll give you a hint, it's five chapters asking Job how he thinks he has the right to question God.


                      Especially, if he acted this way. If God was real he would not: Think she was a whore, "hate niggers", kill innocent people for not knowing the faith of Jesus Christ.
                      Never picked up a Bible, have you.

                      You all talk about how you need to raise your children correctly. BUT HOW CAN YOU RAISE THEM, IF YOU WERE CLEARLY NOT RAISED CORRECTLY!?!?
                      So you believe that the state should raise children? That's worked out so well in the past. What do you know of child rearing since you're obviously a child yourself?
                      Drama queen

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                      • Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

                        Of course if the virgin was raped, then she would be on a one way ticket to Hell.

                        I Timothy 2
                        13
                        For Adam was first formed, then Eue:
                        14 And Adam was not deceiued, but the woman being deceiued was in the transgression:
                        15 Notwithstanding she shall be saued in child-bearing, if they continue in faith and charitie, and holinesse, with sobrietie.

                        ©1611

                        After any rape event, clearly she would not be a virgin. Then she could not be married - or if she were married, after the nuptials (and her condition was revealed) she would be executed. In either case she would not be doing any childbearing.

                        You might think that she could nevertheless produce children out of wedlock, but then she would be executed for the whore she was - or manage to continue as a harlot for the duration of her unholy life: again in either case she would be going to Hell.

                        Deuteronomy 22
                        20
                        But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginitie be not found for the damosel:
                        21 Then they shall bring out the damosell to the doore of her fathers house, and the men of her city shal stone her with stones that she die, because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her fathers house: so shalt thou put euill away from among you.
                        22 If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that lay with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away euill from Israel.
                        23 If a damosell that is a virgin be betrothed vnto an husband, and a man find her in the citie, and lie with her:
                        24 Then yee shall bring them both out vnto the gate of that citie, and yee shall stone them with stones that they die; the damosel, because shee cried not, being in the citie; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbours wife: so thou shalt put away euill from among you.

                        ©1611

                        God tells us however that there is an exception. If the girl's father is a priest, she is not stoned to death. She is burnt alive.

                        Leviticus 21:9 And the daughter of any Priest, if she profane her selfe, by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: shee shall be burnt with fire.
                        ©1611

                        These and many other verses have been quoted so often, why do not people read them? They are quite clear. God loves His people so much, and the consequences of whoredom are so severe that He clearly instructs us how to avoid them through The Law He has given us, in His Perfect Love. Satan's bilious plan to maximise torment must blind those wretches' eyes; for them Hell is almost certain.

                        II Corinthians 4
                        3
                        But if our Gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
                        4 In whom the God of this world hath blinded the minds of them which beleeue not, lest the light of the glorious Gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine vnto them.

                        ©1611

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                        • Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

                          Originally posted by MitzaLizalor View Post
                          Of course if the virgin was raped, then she would be on a one way ticket to Hell.

                          I Timothy 2
                          13
                          For Adam was first formed, then Eue:
                          14 And Adam was not deceiued, but the woman being deceiued was in the transgression:
                          15 Notwithstanding she shall be saued in child-bearing, if they continue in faith and charitie, and holinesse, with sobrietie.

                          ©1611

                          After any rape event, clearly she would not be a virgin. Then she could not be married - or if she were married, after the nuptials (and her condition was revealed) she would be executed. In either case she would not be doing any childbearing.

                          You might think that she could nevertheless produce children out of wedlock, but then she would be executed for the whore she was - or manage to continue as a harlot for the duration of her unholy life: again in either case she would be going to Hell.

                          Deuteronomy 22
                          20
                          But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginitie be not found for the damosel:
                          21 Then they shall bring out the damosell to the doore of her fathers house, and the men of her city shal stone her with stones that she die, because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her fathers house: so shalt thou put euill away from among you.
                          22 If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that lay with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away euill from Israel.
                          23 If a damosell that is a virgin be betrothed vnto an husband, and a man find her in the citie, and lie with her:
                          24 Then yee shall bring them both out vnto the gate of that citie, and yee shall stone them with stones that they die; the damosel, because shee cried not, being in the citie; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbours wife: so thou shalt put away euill from among you.

                          ©1611

                          God tells us however that there is an exception. If the girl's father is a priest, she is not stoned to death. She is burnt alive.

                          Leviticus 21:9 And the daughter of any Priest, if she profane her selfe, by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: shee shall be burnt with fire.
                          ©1611

                          These and many other verses have been quoted so often, why do not people read them? They are quite clear. God loves His people so much, and the consequences of whoredom are so severe that He clearly instructs us how to avoid them through The Law He has given us, in His Perfect Love. Satan's bilious plan to maximise torment must blind those wretches' eyes; for them Hell is almost certain.

                          II Corinthians 4
                          3
                          But if our Gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
                          4 In whom the God of this world hath blinded the minds of them which beleeue not, lest the light of the glorious Gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine vnto them.

                          ©1611
                          This is exactly why the Bible requires the rapist and the woman to marry! After the rape she is unable to marry anyone else and those unable to bear children and we all know the Bible tells us women are saved through child-bearing. Marrying her rapist is what is best for everybody, otherwise both are doomed to Hell.
                          The Big-Bang: GOD spoke and, BANG, the universe was formed.
                          Genesis 1:1 - In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
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                          • Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

                            You are also instructed by God to follow the laws of the land as well as follow his Word.

                            Rapist belong in Hell if they dont repent and continue to sin
                            , not to be married to the kids they molest so they can continue to molest them.

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                            • Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

                              Originally posted by gypsyr0ad View Post
                              Rapist belong in Hell if they dont repent and continue to sin
                              It says pretty clearly they should fix their mistake through marriage.

                              Originally posted by gypsyr0ad View Post
                              not to be married to the kids they molest so they can continue to molest them.
                              If a rapist continues to have (forced) sex with the woman he raped after marriage, then it's not rape or molestation but legal intercourse.
                              I take my orders from Jesus H. Christ, supernatural born US citizen

                              Be wary of false Kumbaya Christians who use a highlighter and scissors to read the Bible. God wants us to read the lines, not between the lines. False Christians will go to Hell:
                              Matthew 7:22
                              Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
                              Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

                              Asking a Christian to prove God exists is like asking him to prove his phone rings because yours doesn't. Make that call yourself! Dial 0800-get-on-your-knees-and-pray.

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                              • Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

                                Legal marriage is defined between to accepting parties.

                                raping and forcing one to be your sex slave is not defined by legal marriage therefore making the legal marriage invalid and against the law and against God.

                                God set his rules in place and also demanded you follow the laws of the land.

                                That my friend is just how it is.

                                That was his insurance to prevent child molestation, which is being manipulated by this thread, which I have proved, with out one direct Bible quote.

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