[self_abusing_sinner]

Re: Thank you Rev. Jim Osborne for the cute Pediabear underwear!

SASsy, can you tell the difference between honoring (that is, treating in a respectful manner) and obeying (doing what is told)?

It is possible to respectfully decline to obey. For example, if President O'Bama ordered me to rat out True Christians™ so he could put them into his FEMA death camps, I could very easily say no, in a polite and respectful manner.

I hadn't ever thought of that, thank you for this. Uhm, I know you don't like Catlyk teachings here, uhm but it is the only place else I've seen an explanation of what the Commandments mean, in the Catechism, anyway I know it's ungodly, so I wanted to hear what you guys think about it, and preferably, show me where I can read what the Commandment is really about.

ARTICLE 4
THE FOURTH COMMANDMENT
Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the land which the Lord your God gives you.4
He was obedient to them.5 The Lord Jesus himself recalled the force of this "commandment of God."6 The Apostle teaches: "Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. 'Honor your father and mother,' (This is the first commandment with a promise.) 'that it may be well with you and that you may live long on the earth."'7

2197 The fourth commandment opens the second table of the Decalogue. It shows us the order of charity. God has willed that, after him, we should honor our parents to whom we owe life and who have handed on to us the knowledge of God. We are obliged to honor and respect all those whom God, for our good, has vested with his authority.
2198 This commandment is expressed in positive terms of duties to be fulfilled. It introduces the subsequent commandments which are concerned with particular respect for life, marriage, earthly goods, and speech. It constitutes one of the foundations of the social doctrine of the Church.
2199 The fourth commandment is addressed expressly to children in their relationship to their father and mother, because this relationship is the most universal. It likewise concerns the ties of kinship between members of the extended family. It requires honor, affection, and gratitude toward elders and ancestors. Finally, it extends to the duties of pupils to teachers, employees to employers, subordinates to leaders, citizens to their country, and to those who administer or govern it.
This commandment includes and presupposes the duties of parents, instructors, teachers, leaders, magistrates, those who govern, all who exercise authority over others or over a community of persons. 2200 Observing the fourth commandment brings its reward: "Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the land which the LORD your God gives you."8 Respecting this commandment provides, along with spiritual fruits, temporal fruits of peace and prosperity. Conversely, failure to observe it brings great harm to communities and to individuals.

Feel free to edit this away, but also I would like to hear sort of what the sum total meditation on this Commandment has led you to in Freehold, if there is like a final way of looking at it.. I find it confusing to know exactly what 'honoring' means.. what if one has dishonest parents? Should one revere them then? It just doesn't make any sense given the other Commandments..

Thank you,

sas

[self_abusing_sinner]

Re: Thank you Rev. Jim Osborne for the cute Pediabear underwear!

Also I'm NOT Catholic but I spent some time in a Catholic Church, learnt to pray (said the Rosary a lot) and also got some books, including the Catechism of the Roman Catholic Church (which is actually a rather big book rofl) anyway I know you will see anything from there as obscene so please delete it if you must, but is there like a similar document for Freehold? One that, in modern terms, expounds on the each Commandment so it is easier to follow, and understand? I need that understanding to fulfil my baptismal vows..

[Lisa H]

Re: Thank you Rev. Jim Osborne for the cute Pediabear underwear!

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Stop bleating on about this, either say something nice to Felicity or just stop posting here.

Deuteronomy 5:32 Ye shall observe to do therefore as the LORD your God hath commanded you: ye shall not turn aside to the right hand or to the left.

[Seth Campbell]

Re: Thank you Rev. Jim Osborne for the cute Pediabear underwear!

Also I'm NOT Catholic but I spent some time in a Catholic Church, learnt to pray (said the Rosary a lot) and also got some books, including the Catechism of the Roman Catholic Church (which is actually a rather big book rofl) anyway I know you will see anything from there as obscene so please delete it if you must, but is there like a similar document for Freehold? One that, in modern terms, expounds on the each Commandment so it is easier to follow, and understand? I need that understanding to fulfil my baptismal vows..

Yeah yeah, you're not catholic, but you've done nothing but spread your catholic filth on this board since you've shown up. You also have gay and pedophile tendencies, so I'm suspicious that you're not only catholic but you're actually a member of the clergy

[self_abusing_sinner]

Re: Thank you Rev. Jim Osborne for the cute Pediabear underwear!

Matthew 14
3 Now Herod had arrested John, bound (him), and put him in prison on account of Herodias, the wife of his brother Philip,
4 for John had said to him, "It is not lawful for you to have her."

Matthew 5
10 Blessed are they who are persecuted for the sake of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11 Blessed are you when they insult you and persecute you and utter every kind of evil against you (falsely) because of me.
12 Rejoice and be glad, for your reward will be great in heaven. Thus they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

I feel good right now. What about you Lisa?

God bless,

sas

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Thank you Rev. Jim Osborne for the cute Pediabear underwear!

Sas,

Don't try and turn the tables. You are the one persecuting us; we are not persecuting you. Therefore, those verses mean nothing to you.

If anything, we are rebuking and correcting you, which is what we are commanded to do by the Lord.

2nd Timothy 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2nd Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

[Lisa H]

Re: Thank you Rev. Jim Osborne for the cute Pediabear underwear!

Matthew 14
3 Now Herod had arrested John, bound (him), and put him in prison on account of Herodias, the wife of his brother Philip,
4 for John had said to him, "It is not lawful for you to have her."

Matthew 5
10 Blessed are they who are persecuted for the sake of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11 Blessed are you when they insult you and persecute you and utter every kind of evil against you (falsely) because of me.
12 Rejoice and be glad, for your reward will be great in heaven. Thus they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

I feel good right now. What about you Lisa?

God bless,

sas

So you still insist on insulting Felicity. You really have to stop being negative about a child's toy.

Numbers 14:31 But your little ones, which ye said should be a prey, them will I bring in, and they shall know the land which ye have despised

[self_abusing_sinner]

Re: Thank you Rev. Jim Osborne for the cute Pediabear underwear!

Sas,

Don't try and turn the tables. You are the one persecuting us; we are not persecuting you. Therefore, those verses mean nothing to you.

If anything, we are rebuking and correcting you, which is what we are commanded to do by the Lord.

2nd Timothy 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2nd Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

I am not persecuting 'us', I am talking about you, and saying it is wrong to buy a sixteen year old girl underwear of any kind, ESPECIALLY when you are over sixty years old and not family, ESPECIALLY when you are a Pastor. I'm gonna raise so much hell over this you aren't going to try something remotely like this again. That's what the good people here should have done and have been itching to do all along.

Titus 2:2, 3 "That the aged men be sober, grave, temperate, sound in faith, in (christian!) charity, in patience. The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things."

Regards.

sas

ps. Enough with the [censored].

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Thank you Rev. Jim Osborne for the cute Pediabear underwear!

I am not persecuting 'us', I am talking about you, and saying it is wrong to buy a sixteen year old girl underwear of any kind, ESPECIALLY when you are over sixty years old and not family, ESPECIALLY when you are a Pastor. I'm gonna raise so much hell over this you aren't going to try something remotely like this again. That's what the good people here should have done and have been itching to do all along.

Ok, you say it is "wrong", but that is a moral judgment. Can you show me where in the Bible that said what I did was wrong? It was merely a gift, a gift of clothes, to a young lady that is truly wonderful. Furthermore, if what I did was so scandalous, how come Felicity and I have made this information public and our congregation unanimously supports me? Because I did nothing wrong and I'm not ashamed of my actions.

Titus 2:2, 3 "That the aged men be sober, grave, temperate, sound in faith, in (christian!) charity, in patience. The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things."

I'm not sure what you are trying to prove with this quote. All those adjectives apply to me, particularly charity since this action of mine was a charity.

ps. Enough with the [censored].

Matthew 15:11 Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.

[Seth Campbell]

Re: Thank you Rev. Jim Osborne for the cute Pediabear underwear!

Yes, pedrobear has a nice sombrero. I understand he dashes across the border and steals away American jobs.

Brother can you let me know where to get that poster? I'd like to set some up in the back for the boys to use for target practice.

I am not persecuting 'us', I am talking about you, and saying it is wrong to buy a sixteen year old girl underwear of any kind, ESPECIALLY when you are over sixty years old and not family, ESPECIALLY when you are a Pastor.

Weren't you the one whining that we have no right to judge? Yet you judge the Good pastor for doing something as innocent as giving a cute gift to a member of the church. Do you know his connection to the family? In fact do you know anything about him at all, other than the perverted fantasy you've made up in your head?

I'm gonna raise so much hell over this you aren't going to try something remotely like this again. That's what the good people here should have done and have been itching to do all along.

Why would we listen to a papist homer like yourself? Just because you suffer from evil fantasies does not mean that all men do.

Titus 2:2, 3 "That the aged men be sober, grave, temperate, sound in faith, in (christian!) charity, in patience. The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things."

how is giving a gift not charity? As for the rest, you don't know the man and really can't say anything about him. I know the wife has had dealings with him regarding her dogs, and she has nothing but high praises for him.

ps. Enough with the bullshit.

ps. you don't need to start every paragraph with ps., and I agree, I'm tired of what you've been spewing all over these boards as well.

[self_abusing_sinner]

Re: Thank you Rev. Jim Osborne for the cute Pediabear underwear!

bla bla bla

You of all people, Reverent, should know that charity in the Christian sense refers not go giving (which is called generosity or liberality in the King James Bible), but Christian love, which above all, is based on obeying the Commandments, which in turn are rooted in decency. In my opinion you are in flagrant violation of the Commandments by doing this. As a Pastor, your only duty is to give gifts that have a spiritual significance. You are supposed to lead the flock morally, not lead them into hell. That is what've you've chosen to do with your life, but as the Bible says, teachers of the word will be judged all the more harshly, by the Lord.

Maybe it is time you stopped preaching fear of the Lord and instead started to HAVE it? Sober my but what you did was inappropriate, it was just wrong, and you show no sign of remorse but what is worse, you continue to defend your actions. You are in no position to provide moral guidance to your flock, when you do things like that. Your name is only as good as your deeds Reverend, or have you forgotten that also goes for you? Especially for you!

Cheers.

sas

[Sister Pamela Thompson]

Re: Thank you Rev. Jim Osborne for the cute Pediabear underwear!

You of all people, Reverent, should know that charity in the Christian sense refers not go giving (which is called generosity or liberality in the King James Bible), but Christian love

Part of loving is giving. People show their love for each other in different ways. Some people show their love using words, some show it through their actions, like giving gifts.

Are you claiming that giving a gift to a child is not an act of love?

Were you not loved as a child? Was there no one to give you gifts? Was there no one to give you a hug when you felt sad and wanted to cry?

Just because you had a horrible childhood doesn't mean every one else in the world should suffer the way you did.

[self_abusing_sinner]

Re: Thank you Rev. Jim Osborne for the cute Pediabear underwear!

Part of loving is giving. People show their love for each other in different ways. Some people show their love using words, some show it through their actions, like giving gifts.

Are you claiming that giving a gift to a child is not an act of love?

Were you not loved as a child? Was there no one to give you gifts? Was there no one to give you a hug when you felt sad and wanted to cry?

Just because you had a horrible childhood doesn't mean every one else in the world should suffer the way you did.

Hey Pamela,

I am thirty-one-years old, but would you mind if I got you a pair of underwear like this? Notice the bear is drooling, I hope that only adds to the thrill of me giving and you receiving this most charitable gift.



Because of all the things I can get you, underwear is the first that comes to mind. Also, would it schock you to find out I was actually a Pastor in the SAS Church of Christ, and a Genuine Christian™? Would you find that appropriate?

If not, you are insane.

Regards.

sas

[Levi Jones]

Re: Thank you Rev. Jim Osborne for the cute Pediabear underwear!

Also, would it schock you to find out I was actually a Pastor in the SAS Church of Christ,

In the what's it? You were a Pastor? How can that be? You don't know much about the Bible at all.

[Phebe Carlyle]

Re: Thank you Rev. Jim Osborne for the cute Pediabear underwear!

HeyPamela,

I am thirty-one-years old, but would you mind if I got you a pair of underwear like this? Notice the bear is drooling, I hope that only adds to the thrill of me giving and you receiving this most charitable gift.



Because of all the things I can get you, underwear is the first that comes to mind. Also, would it schock you to find out I was actually a Pastor in the SAS Church of Christ, and a Genuine Christian™? Would you find that appropriate?

If not, you are insane.

Regards.

sas

Hey, you listen sas-mouth!

If YOU personally conclude that there is something less than pure in Rev. Jim's intentions, then it is your mind in hell's cesspool and no one else's!

For one, your example is not even relevant as Rev Jim as known Felicity for MANY years and sees her like a close relative! I don't know about you but I remember even when I was a child, my grandparents, aunts and uncles giving me gifts at Christmas and birthdays of underwear, handkerchiefs, socks etc and nothing lewd was intended, nor did such intent cross ANYONE's mind at all!

How long have you known Sister Pamela? 5 MINUTES?

Are you an atheist pervert out in an attempt to corrupt the young women here on Landover? YOU ARE SICK!

BTW, what YOU see as drool, I see as a mere shadow on the fabric. Perhaps it is YOU who should get your mind out of the gutter.. as well as obviously other places!

Mrs. Phebe Dewitt.