My question is this: which one of you were here in the ‘beginning’? next question, is there a beginning to infinity? Is there a finite explanation to an infinite existence? Other than a book composed by men over a period of time, what substantial proof do you have to back your claims? And my final question: who is really interested in the truth? Serious bloggers only. I do not want any hateful or bias posts in response to these questions, for they are questions and not statements. I may or may not agree with your beliefs, but I am asking questions in a civil manner, so there is no need to be defensive. Your responses dictate your character, maturity, and demeanor.
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I don't want to claim that I'm a real smart fella. I might get some of the answers wrong. But I don't ever want anybody to say about Mason Brasil that he never tried!
The beginning? Why, I think that'd be Missus Bowers and Old Pastor Fred. Landover weren't much but a crossroads and a watering hole afore they built their church.Originally posted by logician View PostMy question is this: which one of you were here in the ‘beginning’?
Mister Logician, I don't want to get too smart, but that's three questionsnext question, is there a beginning to infinity? Is there a finite explanation to an infinite existence? Other than a book composed by men over a period of time, what substantial proof do you have to back your claims?
. I may not know a lot, but I know how to figger it out, and I think you might find your answers here. But I wouldn't recommend you go buying no jap car. Not a lot of places in Freehold 'll service foreign plastic like that.
Why, Christians, sir. And people like yourself. Let me tell you, you came to the right place.And my final question: who is really interested in the truth?
Of course. I hope I treated you with the dignity and respect somebody of your education deserves.Serious bloggers only. Your responses dictate your character, maturity, and demeanor.Acts 13:8 And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?
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Your doing just fine man. I graduated high school at 15, and haven’t been to school since. I am not by any standards an educated person. Knowledge comes from an infinite source, all one needs to obtain their desired information is ask, look, observe, and receive.1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
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Originally posted by logician View PostYour doing just fine man. I graduated high school at 15.
Homeschooled? I'm jealous. We had to study biology. Too many big words for my taste. They made me put a condom on a broomstick in sex ed. Everybody laughed at me.
I agree 2000%, sir, and I'd agree 4000% if such a thing were possible. And I'm real grateful to learn that I treated you with the respect you deserve.I am not by any standards an educated person. Knowledge comes from an infinite source, all one needs to obtain their desired information is ask, look, observe, and receive.Acts 13:8 And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?
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This is a Christian Church forum, friend. All Truth -- that is, God's Truth -- is found in the Holy King James Bible. That is the one and only objective source of God's Word.Originally posted by logician View PostMy question is this: which one of you were here in the ‘beginning’? next question, is there a beginning to infinity? Is there a finite explanation to an infinite existence? Other than a book composed by men over a period of time, what substantial proof do you have to back your claims? And my final question: who is really interested in the truth? Serious bloggers only. I do not want any hateful or bias posts in response to these questions, for they are questions and not statements. I may or may not agree with your beliefs, but I am asking questions in a civil manner, so there is no need to be defensive.
Your "scientific" inquiries and "philosophic" mental masturbation are of no value or interest to those who listen to the voice of Jesus instead of Richard Dawkins.
Your responses dictate your character, maturity, and demeanor.
Your thinly-veiled threat of "judgment" (ha!) and your presumptuous belief that you, as a guest on this forum, can direct members, moderators, and Pastors to respond in the way you desire, indicates yours.
Were you God, I'd be most interested in your opinions about my maturity, character, and demeanor. You're not, so my interest level is declining rapidly.
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I come not to criticize, nor do I come to torment your organized religion. I merely come to provoke thought, bringing to light those things that were in darkness to the minds of man afore time. I am not denying the existence of god, nor am I rebuking anyone for there faith. I did not join this forum to spread seeds of indignation, nor to reap the corruption of faith. Faith is vital in anybodies life, and those who do not have it will die lost in eternity. I was not threatening anyone, just stating a fact. My observation of your post has shown me your on the defensive, and have closed your mind off, relieving yourself of the responsibility to gain knowledge. You have a precious gift given to you, the bible, and you don’t know how to comprehend its words. There are 4200 different religions in the world, all with sub-religions based on those beliefs. Do you think god is very happy with you if your misinterpreting his holy words? Tell me, how many different forms of Baptist are there, and which ones are right and wrong? Think about this: you meet your maker and find out that you were misled by satan and his great lie, and your condemned to hell for all eternity because you closed your heart up with deceit in it?1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
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Mister, I think you done read Jenny wrong. She's a Christian. She don't touch none of those folks at that hotel of hers.Originally posted by logician View PostThere are 4200 different religions in the world, all with sub-religions based on those beliefs. Do you think god is very happy with you if your misinterpreting his holy words? Tell me, how many different forms of Baptist are there, and which ones are right and wrong?
And I don't know exactly how many Baptists is wrong, but I know how many is right. There's only one church of Christ, and it's the church that reads His bible, and follows His law, and loves Him. But if what you're saying is akyooright, then I guess that means that there's 4199 wrong kinds of Baptists. Me? I don't care if there were a thousand kinds of wrong ways to be a Christian. I'd still do it the right way.Acts 13:8 And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?
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[quote=logician;230489]I come not to criticize, nor do I come to torment your organized religion. I merely come to provoke thought, bringing to light those things that were in darkness to the minds of man afore time. I am not denying the existence of god, nor am I rebuking anyone for there faith.Interesting. I have marked the denials in red and the errors in blue. You have a contradiction between the first and third red passages. You promise one thing and then desert the promise – unlike Jesus.
I did not join this forum to spread seeds of indignation, nor to reap the corruption of faith. Faith is vital in anybodies life, and those who do not have it will die lost in eternity. I was not threatening anyone, just stating a fact. My observation of your post has shown me your on the defensive, and have closed your mind off, relieving yourself of the responsibility to gain knowledge. You have a precious gift given to you, the bible, and you don’t know how to comprehend its words.
There are 4200 different religions in the world, all with sub-religions based on those beliefs. Do you think God is very happy with you if your misinterpreting his holy words?
Tell me, how many different forms of Baptist are there, and which ones are right and wrong? Think about this: you meet Your Maker and find out that you were misled by satan and his great lie, and your condemned to hell for all eternity because you closed your heart up with deceit in it?
You say that faith is vital in anybody’s life – faith is like reading the instruction book – get it right and the thing works, get it wrong and your warranty is void.
You tell me that there are many forms of Baptist – No sir, there are not. This is like saying (as I have elsewhere mentioned) many forms of the the Bible – there is KJV 1611 and there are tainted works of man.
You say there are many forms of religion in the world. Again, God makes it clear that those who worship false gods are damned. Thus there is only one form and that is Landover.
You say at the second red passage that you did not join this forum to spread seeds of indignation; then you ask if God would be happy with our misinterpretation. Sir, I am indignant! Again we see your deceit and dissimulation.
You ask us to consider if we might have been misled by satan and give the consequence. We are happy, in our faith, to accept the consequence, for that is what we preach. As it is, we are Saved and bound for Paradise and no amount of your earthly sophistry will alter that.
Sir, I have the feeling that your education has taken you a little beyond the limits of your intellect. I have the feeling that the Bible is not in your heart and that your faith is weak because of doubts that you try to resolve by specious argument dressed up as genuine queries.
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As a logician, you'll realise all logic rests on unverifiable axioms, so questions about "the beginning" are meaningless to you beyond that. So kindly silence yourself.
We here rest on our objective truth of the Bible. God tells you that it is the truth once you accept it, and sicne you haven't again you find you need to silence yourself.
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First off, a logician is the exact same thing as a magician, except you can SEE what a magician plays with. a Logician only plays with words. Besides, I know enough about logic to know that given a false premise, you can prove anything. So until you start with the only True Premise there is, that God created the Heavens and the Earth, then you have 0 leg to stand on. Biblical Truth is the standard by which any logic should start, so when you get a reasonable foundation, then we'll be happy to debate with you. Otherwise, you're just a word/idea magician. And I won't pay you $8/hr to do a word-trick on meOriginally posted by Unfalsifiable View PostAs a logician, you'll realise all logic rests on unverifiable axioms, so questions about "the beginning" are meaningless to you beyond that. So kindly silence yourself.
A) you make no sense andOriginally posted by Unfalsifiable View PostWe here rest on our objective truth of the Bible. God tells you that it is the truth once you accept it, and sicne you haven't again you find you need to silence yourself.
Thanks.
B ) You insult us by telling us to silence ourselves. We're not women here, you can't treat us like that. I suggest that when you go to a guest area, you treat your hosts with a better attitude than that. Try to logic your way out of that, my friend. Personally I am going to recommend you for some infraction points for being so dreadfully impolite. Maybe you should sign up for a course with Betty Bowers for to learn some manners.Trump 2020: "For Real This Time"
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Oh dear me , would you take a look at this...
Some might take issue with some of this. The suggestion that you bring light is not just arrogant as hell and dripping with prideful self-obssession, it also needs the assertion that those you address exist in darkness and ignorance. If you don't believe thosr precursors, your statement is not only self-contradicting , it is irrelevant... Just someone trying to take a high brow line while they chat a load of bubbles..Originally posted by logician View PostI come not to criticize, nor do I come to torment your organized religion. I merely come to provoke thought, bringing to light those things that were in darkness to the minds of man afore time. I am not denying the existence of god, nor am I rebuking anyone for there faith. I did not join this forum to spread seeds of indignation, nor to reap the corruption of faith.
Originally posted by logician View PostFaith is vital in anybodies life, and those who do not have it will die lost in eternity.
Here , you miss the point entirely. Faith is not vital . Plenty of heathens, heretics, staanists and even catholics , have faith in plentiful supply...
What is essential is True Faith , in and attached to The True God..
There are multitudes of misguided sinners who will rot in hell becuase they believe some tree hugging version of your statement.
Originally posted by logician View PostI was not threatening anyone, just stating a fact. My observation of your post has shown me your on the defensive, and have closed your mind off, relieving yourself of the responsibility to gain knowledge.
People tend to be defensive when attacked ?. Unless they're like me... Me, a lifetime of training and a naturally tenacious nature, along with certain well defined skills lead me to take a line whereby I attack when necessary...
Well Hello...
Your post actually shows you to have come here with a closed mind and a rehearsed , probably prewritten script, that is meant to dress up all the usual aggressive attempts at debunking belief in some smarmy disguise meant to look like reason and rational thought.
That whole approach of yours just creates an image of you dancing around in some celebration of a misguided belief you're more intelligent, better informed , and generally superior to anyone here.
Newsflash...only you actually believes that.
Originally posted by logician View PostYou have a precious gift given to you, the bible, and you don’t know how to comprehend its words.
Now if we want arrogant, there she blows ... You presume to tell people who live by that Book , and have studied it as assiduously as they breathe, that they don't understand it .
You tell them you will explain it to them ..
Whoaaa...
Do you keep snakes as pets son, or just get visits from them every now and again when they dangle these temptations and delusions in front of you...
You don't even identify which Bible you refer to... I wonder if you know that there is a lot of pretenders to that title.
You give no indication that you are aware of the KJV...If you aren't , your statement is invalid .
If you are , you have obviously missed the worth of its content , or you wouldn't be of a mind to make the statements you have made in this thread.
See, again...aeeumption , blended with ignorance, and passed off as fact.Originally posted by logician View PostThere are 4200 different religions in the world, all with sub-religions based on those beliefs.
There are not 4200 religions and myriad sub-religions... There are 4199 cults , fetishes, cabals, covens , etc....and ONE RELIGION...
They do not share any common beliefs , or tey would of the true faith and adhere to the true KJV....
(assuming your count of 4200 is accurate, as those cults tend to come and go like the tides)
Originally posted by logician View PostDo you think god is very happy with you if your misinterpreting his holy words? Tell me, how many different forms of Baptist are there, and which ones are right and wrong?
There is ONE type of Baptist...
There are some striving for the true path...
Then there are a whole gaggle of others abusing the term for their own purposes.
ALL the pretenders are wrong...
Originally posted by logician View PostThink about this: you meet your maker and find out that you were misled by satan and his great lie, and your condemned to hell for all eternity because you closed your heart up with deceit in it?
You seem to concede we will meet our maker...
If yo don't your question is a waste of words. If you don't believe we will meet our maker , the rest of your question is self-nullified.
That's ok , we will... meet our maker that is.
But as we will, that also asserts , by your words, that our view of him and his word is accurate.
We will not be meeting anyone elses view of their erroneous 'maker' as they would be a myth or a fairy-tale.
So, on that Day , we will meet the Creator we already hold in our hearts. We will do it with joy, and praises,
and a Hallelujah that you will not even hear...
unless you change a few of your ways and a lot of your beliefs...
Your posts read like some new philosophy student who has fallen in love with what he thinks is his clear view of his primer reading list....
Now my main motive is not to criticize, nor do I seek to torment your organized self-constructs. I merely seek to provoke thought, bring light those areas that are in darkness , and knowledge to the minds of those denied HIS GRACE....
I think you need a little more preparation, and a more precise and accurate style of expression
I , and maybe a few others , will pray for you...
Despite the fact you seem inclined to seek to prey on those you assume to be less able in intellect than your self..
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If you want to know the Truth, read the Holy Bible (KJV1611, of course.)
Of course you'll ask us the same blubbering question, "but how do you KNOW the Bible is the truth?!!?"
The answer?
IT SAYS SO RIGHT IN THE BIBLE.
So I pose some questions to you:
Have you ever read the Bible?
Why haven't you accepted that you are a helpless sinner in desperate need of washing in CHRIST's warm blood?
What are you going to tell JESUS on judgement day after you had all these years to submit but chose to spit in His face?sigpic
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I don't know that there's anything else to add here. It seems that Magician has revealed himself for the arrogant, God-hating atheist that he is, here to attempt to drive us from God that we may join him in eternal torture in God's Hell, and has been thoroughly rebuked.
I'm so pleased to be a member of such an astute group of True Christians(tm)!
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Its hopeless. I guess ill start obeying God now, when He sys answer not a fool in his folly.1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
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