[Xanax]

Re: God says: Women ARE OBJECTS and they should be treated as such

It's the same thing with the Bible. You have to look at the context. As I and others have shown you with countless examples, the Bible repeatedly says that women are inferior to men. Hence, submitting to one another refers to those who are considered equal in the community - that is, males only.
If that were true, then why Apostle Paul women have to shut up and submit to their husbands the same way their husbands submit to Jesus?

Yes and in the context of the Bible, we know that God considers male and female equal in made in His image. Just because your view of it is not Biblical does not make it so. And Ephesians 5:21 is not referring to men only, because the passage is speaking of husbands and wives in later verses. So we can assume Paul is addressing both men and women. In addition when Paul says wives to remain silent in the Church in Corinthians, it is because the church of Corinth was in chaos. Women were not submitting to church authority and speaking in tongues was out of control as no one was interpreting it. Obviously this is not the case for all wives because we see Paul saying that women can prophecy and pray in the church and he also commends numerous women for their service in the church in Romans 16. So clearly he respects women and their contributions to the church.

Why doesn't the Bible actually say, somewhere, anywhere, that men and women are equal? Why does it only say the opposite?

The Bible also NEVER says that men are better than men or vise versa, because they are equal in the sight of God.

Look again at where plurar and where singular forms are used.

I think you need to re-read this verse. Genesis 1:26-27, " Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let THEM have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over [g]all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” 27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. " In verse we see God saying let us create man in our image, according to our likeness and let THEM have dominion, showing that 'man' is plural in this context.

We already talked about this so I won't bother repeating myself.

Again we see you ignoring Deborah because you have no answer to retaliate it. God used a woman to lead His people and command the army. Don't ignore her because of your opinions. Follow the Bible!

[Basilissa]

Re: God says: Women ARE OBJECTS and they should be treated as such

Yes and in the context of the Bible, we know that God considers male and female equal in made in His image.

I will refer you to my last post in the other thread where you keep repeating the same lies again and again: https://www.landoverbaptist.net/show...16#post1241616

In addition when Paul says wives to remain silent in the Church in Corinthians, it is because the church of Corinth was in chaos.

Why doesn't he say so? Why is he speaking in such way that it sounds like something applicable to all listeners?

So clearly he respects women and their contributions to the church.

Again, I will let you review my answer in the other thread. I'm tired of repeating the Bible verses and you repeating that the Bible doesn't mean what it says.

The Bible also NEVER says that men are better than men or vise versa, because they are equal in the sight of God.

So why doesn't the Bible actually says that?

I think you need to re-read this verse. Genesis 1:26-27, " Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let THEM have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over [g]all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” 27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. " In verse we see God saying let us create man in our image, according to our likeness and let THEM have dominion, showing that 'man' is plural in this context.

Of course women also have dominion over animals. Otherwise, men would have to be killing all chickens for supper. That is not a part where we disagree.

Again we see you ignoring Deborah because you have no answer to retaliate it.

I did, sweetie, but you keep ignoring my answers. Sure, God liked Deborah, He also liked Hitler and Stalin (since He allowed them to slay millions). What's your point?

[refridgerator]

Re: God says: Women ARE OBJECTS and they should be treated as such

If they are object, then I can sell them for good?

[Xanax]

Re: God says: Women ARE OBJECTS and they should be treated as such

I will refer you to my last post in the other thread where you keep repeating the same lies again and again: https://www.landoverbaptist.net/show...16#post1241616

Whether you like it or not, men and women are equal. If you deny this, then you will have to answer to God because you are not following God's view of man and woman. That's it. Your points are not valid at all, because the Bible NEVER says that men and women are not equal. As you asked me, I can ask you why God never once said plainly that men are better than women.

Of course women also have dominion over animals. Otherwise, men would have to be killing all chickens for supper. That is not a part where we disagree.

I am not talking about women also having dominion over animals. I am saying the whole verse is plural. Let us read Genisis 1:26 again, "Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over [g]all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” Since this whole verse is clearly plural, because when God says let us create 'man' in our image, He then uses the word 'them' when saying let them have dominoin over... Who is 'them' referring to? It is clearly referring to man. Therefore by logic, we can clearly say that man is plural in this sense, referring to both man and woman.

I did, sweetie, but you keep ignoring my answers. Sure, God liked Deborah, He also liked Hitler and Stalin (since He allowed them to slay millions). What's your point?

I already did explain this, but I will do it again in simpler terms for you. Deborah spoke on behalf of God, Hitler and Stalin did not. God loved what Deborah was doing as He chose to speak through her, but He hated what Hitler and Stalin were doing my murdering millions of lives. This is what we read in Judges 4, "She sent for Barak son of Abinoam from Kedesh in Naphtali and said to him, “The Lord, the God of Israel, commands you: ‘Go, take with you ten thousand men of Naphtali and Zebulun and lead them up to Mount Tabor" Here we see God speaking through Deborah clearly. And Deborah provided Israel with 40 years of peace.

I don't know why you are so confused with the story of Deborah. Whether you liked it or not, she commanded men and lead the people of Israel and God approved of her leadership. She goes against everything you believe when it comes to men and women.

[Brother Gonzalez]

Re: God says: Women ARE OBJECTS and they should be treated as such

If they are object, then I can sell them for good?

It depends on the laws of the country, but God is not opposed to that. Which shithole are you from, again? Maybe in your land that is possible.
The nigro agenda has made it illegal in the US.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: God says: Women ARE OBJECTS and they should be treated as such

If you read the book of Judges, you would understand that Deborah was clearly leading the people of Isreal during this time in Israel's history.

You keep saying this but have produced no supporting material. Modernist "translations" (such as the NIV) just make up words to suit their agenda or leave out inconvenient passages altogether. Nowhere in the original languages is Deborah referred to as a leader. Indeed Judges chapters 4 & 5 does not use the word at all except insofar as Barak leads his captives out. This is clearer in the Hebrew than the Greek and although the Masoretic Text dating from about a thousand years ago gives us a complete Hebrew version of Judges (and does not describe Deborah as a leader but rather as judging Israel) there are earlier records from Qumran, perhaps a thousand years earlier. The passage itself, especially Judges 5, is much earlier of course.

Leadership of Israel as a nation, or as a confederation of tribes if you prefer, belonged to God. Not only is this explicit but God is forthright in explaining that adopting "a leader" would be something of a C-minus. solution to a problem which didn't really exist. God juxtaposes the concepts of JUDGING and REIGNING which I'll highlight in yellow for you and include full context including why the people were dissatisfied with how the system of judges was going. (Obviously smaller concerns such as businesses or military establishments.—.even if thrown together on an ad hoc basis.—.would have management requirements but you were not referring to those.)

-I Samuel 8:1-22a
–1 When Samuel was old.….he made his sons judges over Israel.
–2 Now the name of his firstborn was Joel; and the name of his second, Abiah: they were judges in Beersheba.
–3 And his sons walked not in his ways, but turned aside after lucre, and took bribes, and perverted judgment.
-4 Then all the elders of Israel gathered themselves together, and came to Samuel unto Ramah,
–5 And said unto him, Behold, thou art old, and thy sons walk not in thy ways: now make us a king to judge us like all the nations.
-6 But the thing displeased Samuel, when they said, Give us a king to judge us. And Samuel prayed unto the LORD.
-7 And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.
–8 According to all the works which they have done since the day that I brought them up out of Egypt even unto this day, wherewith they have forsaken me, and served other gods, so do they also unto thee.
-9 Now therefore hearken unto their voice: howbeit yet protest solemnly unto them, and shew them the manner of the king that shall reign over them.
10 And Samuel told all the words of the LORD unto the people that asked of him a king.
11 And he said, This will be the manner of the king that shall reign over you: He will take your sons, and appoint them for himself, for his chariots, and to be his horsemen; and some shall run before his chariots.
12 And he will appoint him captains over thousands, and captains over fifties; and will set them to ear his ground, and to reap his harvest, and to make his instruments of war, and instruments of his chariots.
13 And he will take your daughters to be confectionaries, and to be cooks, and to be bakers.
14 And he will take your fields, and your vineyards, and your oliveyards, even the best of them, and give them to his servants.
15 And he will take the tenth of your seed, and of your vineyards, and give to his officers, and to his servants.
16 And he will take your menservants, and your maidservants, and your goodliest young men, and your asses, and put them to his work.
17 He will take the tenth of your sheep: and ye shall be his servants.
18 And ye shall cry out in that day because of your king which ye shall have chosen you; and the LORD will not hear you in that day.
19 Nevertheless the people refused to obey the voice of Samuel; and they said, Nay; but we will have a king over us;
20 That we also may be like all the nations; and that our king may judge us, and go out before us, and fight our battles.
21 And Samuel heard all the words of the people, and he rehearsed them in the ears of the LORD.
22 And the LORD said to Samuel, Hearken unto their voice, and make them a king.

.• verse 4 The elders of Israel were the leaders of the tribes individually. Deborah was not one of them. She did not lead Israel, she judged Israel. The leader of Israel was God.

.• verses 6.&.7 God highlights the difference between someone who judges and someone who leads. He further explains that Israel has rejected His leadership.

.• verse 9ff Starting here, God sets out the many differences between a human leader, a King, and His own leadership. The Israelites are mistaken in thinking kings are just judges dressed up fancy with crowns and bling. Very mistaken.


The Israelites were mistaken about all sorts of things. The Bible sets out some of those mistakes which we can contrast with The Truth as explained by Jesus. It wasn't one "truth" back then and a different "truth" when Jesus arrived. God is particularly lucid on this topic and took steps to quash such error. For your next post, perhaps you could present one such action taken by God?

In the meantime, if you're interested in Judges and some of the language used, here's “The Qumran Scrolls of the Book of Judges: Literary Formation, Textual Criticism, and Historical Linguistics” as a pdf from the Journal of Hebrew Scriptures.

http://www.jhsonline.org/Articles/article_182.pdf

[Basilissa]

Re: God says: Women ARE OBJECTS and they should be treated as such

Whether you like it or not, men and women are equal. If you deny this, then you will have to answer to God because you are not following God's view of man and woman. That's it. Your points are not valid at all, because the Bible NEVER says that men and women are not equal.

I see you missed the verses I provided in my latest reply to your post in the other thread.

Here they are again, for your convenience. I have expanded the commentary a bit:

Genesis 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
(Women were created to assist men. We already taked about this, and your explanation that a "helper" is equal to the person who is being helped does not make sense.)

Genesis 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
(We talked about this one too; Eve, the first woman, is to submit to her husband and so are all her female descendants as we all inherit the original sin. We can prove it very easily - even today women feel pain during pregnancy and labor, because the curse of Eve continues to this day).

Exodus 20:17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
(Women are property. Less valuable than a house but more valuable than slaves and livestock.)

Matthew 18:25 But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made.
(Jesus considers women (and children) to be property that can be sold.)

1st Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
(Note the word "every." If Paul was talking only to women of Corinth, he would have specified it. Also, please note that God is the head of Christ - so much for your thesis about equality within the Trinity)

1st Corinthians 11:7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
1st Corinthians 11:8 For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
1st Corinthians 11:9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
(This is obvious, but here it is again: men and men only are the image and glory of God; women were created for men, as their servants).

1st Corinthians 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
1st Corinthians 14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
(Women are too dumb to be allowed to speak in church; Paul does not specify that this applies only to women in Corinth).

1st Timothy 2:11Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
1st Timothy 2:12But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
1st Timothy 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
1st Timothy 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
1st Timothy 2:15Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
(The only way for women to be saved is to keep their mouths shut, obey their husbands, and produce children)

Ephesians 5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
Ephesians 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
Ephesians 5:24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
(The relation of women with their husbands is the same as the relation of the church with Christ: total obedience or you're going to Hell).

Colossians 3:18 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord
(for those who forgot Ephesians already).

Titus 2:4 That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children,
Titus 2:5 To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.
(Total submission again).

1st Peter 3:1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
(This is one of the rare instances where Peter totally agrees with Paul).

1st Peter 3:5 For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:
1st Peter 3:6 Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement.
(Just in case you forgot, here's subjection again).

As you asked me, I can ask you why God never once said plainly that men are better than women.

I hope the verses provided above satisfy your curiosity.

Let us read Genisis 1:26 again, "Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness;

Man. Man only. Compare with 1 Cor 11:7.

let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over [g]all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”

Them - man and woman.

I already did explain this, but I will do it again in simpler terms for you. Deborah spoke on behalf of God, Hitler and Stalin did not.

You are hovering dangerously close to blasphemy, dear. Hitler and Stalin were as much children of God, doing His bidding, as your beloved Deborah.

Here is the evidence. The Holy Bible teaches us that God creates both good and evil:

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

This verse is the very foundation of Christian faith, this is what separates Christianity from polytheistic religions. In many religions, there is a separate deity that creates mayhem. However, Christians believe that there is only one God, and that means He alone is responsible for both all the good and all the bad that happens.

This is reinforced in Amos:

Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the Lord hath not done it?

God loved what Deborah was doing as He chose to speak through her, but He hated what Hitler and Stalin were doing my murdering millions of lives.

If He hated what they were doing, He would have stricken them with a lightning, or gave them a crippling disease, or even killed them in their infancy, long before they got to do mayhem.

Yet, He did not. In the light of the verses cited above, that means that Hitler and Stalin were sent by God to kill and torture. The Bible calls people like that wasters - people created by God as His tool of destruction:

Isaiah 54:16 Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy.

This is what we read in Judges 4, "She sent for Barak son of Abinoam from Kedesh in Naphtali and said to him, “The Lord, the God of Israel, commands you: ‘Go, take with you ten thousand men of Naphtali and Zebulun and lead them up to Mount Tabor"

Please note that she was not the one commanding here. She was merely a conduit, passing God's command to leaders of Israel.

You keep saying this but have produced no supporting material. Modernist "translations" (such as the NIV) just make up words to suit their agenda or leave out inconvenient passages altogether. Nowhere in the original languages is Deborah referred to as a leader. Indeed Judges chapters 4 & 5 does not use the word at all except insofar as Barak leads his captives out. This is clearer in the Hebrew than the Greek and although the Masoretic Text dating from about a thousand years ago gives us a complete Hebrew version of Judges (and does not describe Deborah as a leader but rather as judging Israel) there are earlier records from Qumran, perhaps a thousand years earlier. The passage itself, especially Judges 5, is much earlier of course.

Leadership of Israel as a nation, or as a confederation of tribes if you prefer, belonged to God. Not only is this explicit but God is forthright in explaining that adopting "a leader" would be something of a C-minus. solution to a problem which didn't really exist. God juxtaposes the concepts of JUDGING and REIGNING which I'll highlight in yellow for you and include full context including why the people were dissatisfied with how the system of judges was going.

Thank you Sister Mitza for this brilliant explanation.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: God says: Women ARE OBJECTS and they should be treated as such

I can't take credit for something I haven't done. All that's necessary is to open The Bible and read what it says. Throughout Judges the idea that God leads Israel is paramount but it's quite evident they're aware what kings are. The Israelites often thought they knew better than God either by cooking up novel ways to obligate Him or by outright hedonism.

KING CHUSHANRISHATHAIM

Idols and revolting antics never sit well with God. The first king mentioned in Judges found The Israelites sitting ducks because they had abandoned God. Thus it's certain that they knew what a king was and could observe first hand the alternatives to accepting God. The Bible explains:

Judges 3:7-8 The children of Israel did evil in the sight of the LORD, and forgat the LORD their God, and served Baalim and the groves. Therefore the anger of the LORD was hot against Israel, and he sold them into the hand of Chushanrishathaim king of Mesopotamia: and the children of Israel served Chushanrishathaim eight years.

God also tells us about administrative affairs elsewhere. Later on there was some awkwardness concerning who'd be better placed to govern Sechem. As usual the Midianites had been marauding about the place or at least attempting to (some people never learn) but Gideon had stepped up to the mark, sorting them out in short order.

Judges 8:22-23 Then the men of Israel said unto Gideon, Rule thou over us, both thou, and thy son, and thy son's son also: for thou hast delivered us from the hand of Midian. And Gideon said unto them, I will not rule over you, neither shall my son rule over you: the LORD shall rule over you.

The Israelites just kept getting it wrong. The first time I put my hand in an electric light fitting and turned on the switch was also the last. The experience was short lived, well under a second, but these people were ENSLAVED FOR 8 YEARS. for doing whatever worshipping idols involves which I won't try to imagine but I'm certain it's extremely impolite and what did they do next? Once they were free? Whoring it up with idols!

Judges 8:33-34 As soon as Gideon was dead, that the children of Israel turned again, and went a whoring after Baalim, and made Baalberith their god. And the children of Israel remembered not the LORD their God, who had delivered them out of the hands of all their enemies on every side.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: God says: Women ARE OBJECTS and they should be treated as such

Although very short lived, an electric shock is sufficiently unpleasant to prevent one from repeating the experiment. Imagine if I'd been carted off into slavery for 8 years! Worse things than electric shocks would be happening several times every day and probably more than once at the same. time. The Israelites endured all that as a direct result of idolatry but did they learn? No. Their understanding of The Truth was so gnarled and misshapen that they couldn't even appreciate Jesus when He came and sought to murder Him. First they tormented Him, there was a trial of some sort with dud evidence, they had Him nailed up and left Him hanging there to die.

THE KING OF TREES

Gideon's son with his concubine in Shechem thought being a local king sounded pretty cool, even though there were plenty of legitimate candidates. He targeted them for murder and got most of them but the youngest, Jotham, was able to escape. Meanwhile in Shechem there'd been a coronation. Jotham was not impressed:

Judges 9:7-14 He went and stood in the top of mount Gerizim, and lifted up his voice, and cried, and said unto them, Hearken unto me, ye men of Shechem, that God may hearken unto you. The trees went forth on a time to anoint a king over them; and they said unto the olive tree, Reign thou over us. But the olive tree said unto them, Should I leave my fatness, wherewith by me they honour God and man, and go to be promoted over the trees? And the trees said to the fig tree, Come thou, and reign over us. But the fig tree said unto them, Should I forsake my sweetness, and my good fruit, and go to be promoted over the trees? Then said the trees unto the vine, Come thou, and reign over us. And the vine said unto them, Should I leave my wine, which cheereth God and man, and go to be promoted over the trees? Then said all the trees unto the bramble, Come thou, and reign over us ......read on here

Now just as briars and brambles are a punishment from God which gardeners try to get rid of, so did Shechem try to get rid of this murderous "king" Abimelech. Rampaging around making a thorough pest of oneself tends to lose one the admiration of one's minions and in Abimelech's case of everyone else as well. Eventually they fled to a tower in the city and sure enough:

Judges 9:7-14 Abimelech came unto the tower, and fought against it, and went hard unto the door of the tower to burn it with fire. And a certain woman cast a piece of a millstone upon Abimelech's head, and all to brake his skull. Then he called hastily unto the young man his armourbearer, and said unto him, Draw thy sword, and slay me, that men say not of me, A woman slew him. And his young man thrust him through, and he died. And when the men of Israel saw that Abimelech was dead, they departed every man unto his place. Thus God rendered the wickedness of Abimelech, which he did unto his father, in slaying his seventy brethren and all the evil of the men of Shechem did God render upon their heads: and upon them came the curse of Jotham the son of Jerubbaal.

The Israelites were wrong about choosing kings for themselves. They were wrong about idols. The Israelites were wrong about all sorts of things as pointed out by Jesus who was very critical of their attempts to enforce erroneous dogma, some of which is recorded in The Old Testament where by contrasting what The Israelites thought with what Jesus taught we can identify heresy today.

[B A P H O M E T]

Re: God says: Women ARE OBJECTS and they should be treated as such

I really don't understand why Xanax and other retarded atheists reading these pages don't get the simple message: Women are lesser beings. Take a look at the feminists plaguing our country. They claim that they want equal rights, but as the evidence shows, there can never be equality between males and females. These filthy feminists now ask for more rights than the superior gender. I think it's disgusting and I hope that others stand with me in this conviction. I know that Jesus does.

[Brother Gonzalez]

Re: God says: Women ARE OBJECTS and they should be treated as such

I really don't understand why Xanax and other retarded atheists reading these pages don't get the simple message: Women are lesser beings. Take a look at the feminists plaguing our country. They claim that they want equal rights, but as the evidence shows, there can never be equality between males and females. These filthy feminists now ask for more rights than the superior gender. I think it's disgusting and I hope that others stand with me in this conviction. I know that Jesus does.

My friend, we are not saying women are lesser beings. We are saying they are objects. There is a difference.
Ferraris are objects, and I'd rather have a Ferrari than being your friend. Ferraris are superior than you, from my point of view.

[B A P H O M E T]

Re: God says: Women ARE OBJECTS and they should be treated as such

And you have every right to prefer your Ferrari over me, Brother Gonzalez. And did I say 'lesser beings?' I meant objects. Forgive me for my poor choice of wording.

[Brother D. Thomas]

Re: God says: Women ARE OBJECTS and they should be treated as such

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As it is biblically shown, the only thing that a true Landover Baptist man has to remember is when our Yahweh/Jesus inspired the following passage relative to the woman, praise!

"And I find more bitter than death the woman, whose heart is snares and nets, and her hands as bands: whoso pleaseth God shall escape from her; but the sinner shall be taken by her." (Ecclesiastes 7:26)

This is just another reason why women will never inhabit our glorious heaven, because they will NEVER please Jesus! 2+2=4.


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[Basilissa]

Re: God says: Women ARE OBJECTS and they should be treated as such

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As it is biblically shown, the only thing that a true Landover Baptist man has to remember is when our Yahweh/Jesus inspired the following passage relative to the woman, praise!

"And I find more bitter than death the woman, whose heart is snares and nets, and her hands as bands: whoso pleaseth God shall escape from her; but the sinner shall be taken by her." (Ecclesiastes 7:26)

This is just another reason why women will never inhabit our glorious heaven, because they will NEVER please Jesus! 2+2=4.


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Please don't blame me for it, dear, but Jesus disagrees with you:

1 Timothy 2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

Yes, everybody can be saved. Even women, slaves, and people of lesser races:

Galatians 3:28-29
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: God says: Women ARE OBJECTS and they should be treated as such

Galatians 3:28-29
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

..that seems to mean after The Promise has been accepted rather than before, if the covenant with Abraham was terminated by Jesus:

Matthew 21:42-45 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder. And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them.