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  • Mustafa Jihad2
    Unsaved trash
    Suspected terrorist
    • Mar 2019
    • 19

    #1

    Jesus is White

    Salam True Christian friends! Im sorry ive been absent i was busy preparing for Ramadan trying to kick bad habits unsuccessfully, etc. I hope y’all are ok and may God guide us to the right path.

    Today, I have a favor to ask from you. I need you to prove me, Academically, that Jesus was white. Please note you dont need to prove it to ME, as i already know he was white. The reasons I believe he was white are different from yours, you believe God is white so his son is white, while I believe God has no color because he is above all creation, azza wa jal, but Jesus was historically a Palestinian and while today only 40% of Palestinians are white because of African interbreeding, 2000 years ago all Palestinians were white, so it only makes historical sense to know Jesus alaihi Salam, was white.

    But as you have your reasons and I have my reasons to prove he was white, they are neither acceptable from an impartial point of view. Ineed your help, into proving, preferably from direct Bible quotes, that he was white.

    The reason I need this, and im being honest with you, is to convert black Christians to Islam, so I can get the reward of Red Camels. I want the red camels so i need to convert some souls to Islam, and you dont really like Blacks do you? You dont want black people around your church (not criticizing, just stating the obvious here) and my Prophet said color is not important just get souls for red camels so its a 100 win win situation for all of us. You get rid of blacks, and i get red camels.

    So please True Christian friends, help me in this endevour proving Jesus alaihi salam was white, and for me to get red camels and u get less blacks in Freehold.

    PS: for the trolls that will say my religion doesnt say a black soul doesnt count, or that i dont get red camels for guiding souls to Islam, read this before opening your mouths(warning, non Christian scripture below. This is shared not to convert, proselytize, or to separate any True Christian from his faith, this is shared academically just to prove my opinion.)



    Verily, Allah Almighty created Adam from a handful which He took from the earth, so the children of Adam come in accordance with the earth. Some come with red skin, white skin, or black skin, and whatever is in between: thin, thick, dirty, and clean.

    Source: Sunan al-Tirmidhī 2955, Grade: Sahih

    O people, your Lord is one and your father Adam is one. There is no favor of an Arab over a foreigner, nor a foreigner over an Arab, and neither white skin over black skin, nor black skin over white skin, except by righteousness. Have I not delivered the message?

    Source: Musnad Aḥmad 22978, Grade: Sahih

    Behold! Verily, you have no virtue over one with white skin or black skin, except by favor of righteousness.

    Source: Musnad Aḥmad 20885, Grade: Hasan

    And my camels:

    Sahl bin Sa’d (MAPH) reported: The Prophet (SAWS) said to Ali (MAPH), “By Allah, if a single person is guided by Allah through you, it will be better for you than a whole lot of red camels.” (Al-Bukhari and Muslim)

    Abu Hurairah (MAPH) reported: The Messenger of Allah (SAWS) said: “He who calls others to follow the Right Guidance will have a reward equal to the reward of those who follow him, without their reward being diminished in any respect on that account.” (Muslim)
  • James Hutchins
    True Christian™
    Just a Regular Nice Guy
     
    • Jun 2009
    • 29453

    #2
    Re: Jesus is White

    Originally posted by Mustafa Jihad2 View Post
    Salam True Christian friends! Im sorry ive been absent ... tl;dr....
    You were gone? I figured you just blew yourself up., That is what you people do. For Pooh Honey?
    Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
    Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
    Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
    Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
    Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
    Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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    • Scoutman03
      Unsaved trash
      • Mar 2019
      • 218

      #3
      Re: Jesus is White

      Jesus was born in Bethlehem, so I wouldn't be surprised if he was lightly colored.

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      • Isabella White
        True Christian™ Icon of Feminine Virtue
         
        • Mar 2019
        • 4343

        #4
        Re: Jesus is White

        Originally posted by Mustafa Jihad2 View Post
        Salam True Christian friends! Im sorry ive been absent i was busy preparing for Ramadan trying to kick bad habits unsuccessfully, etc. I hope y’all are ok and may God guide us to the right path.

        Today, I have a favor to ask from you. I need you to prove me, Academically, that Jesus was white. Please note you dont need to prove it to ME, as i already know he was white. The reasons I believe he was white are different from yours, you believe God is white so his son is white, while I believe God has no color because he is above all creation, azza wa jal, but Jesus was historically a Palestinian and while today only 40% of Palestinians are white because of African interbreeding, 2000 years ago all Palestinians were white, so it only makes historical sense to know Jesus alaihi Salam, was white.

        But as you have your reasons and I have my reasons to prove he was white, they are neither acceptable from an impartial point of view. Ineed your help, into proving, preferably from direct Bible quotes, that he was white.

        The reason I need this, and im being honest with you, is to convert black Christians to Islam, so I can get the reward of Red Camels. I want the red camels so i need to convert some souls to Islam, and you dont really like Blacks do you? You dont want black people around your church (not criticizing, just stating the obvious here) and my Prophet said color is not important just get souls for red camels so its a 100 win win situation for all of us. You get rid of blacks, and i get red camels.

        So please True Christian friends, help me in this endevour proving Jesus alaihi salam was white, and for me to get red camels and u get less blacks in Freehold.

        PS: for the trolls that will say my religion doesnt say a black soul doesnt count, or that i dont get red camels for guiding souls to Islam, read this before opening your mouths(warning, non Christian scripture below. This is shared not to convert, proselytize, or to separate any True Christian from his faith, this is shared academically just to prove my opinion.)



        Verily, Allah Almighty created Adam from a handful which He took from the earth, so the children of Adam come in accordance with the earth. Some come with red skin, white skin, or black skin, and whatever is in between: thin, thick, dirty, and clean.

        Source: Sunan al-Tirmidhī 2955, Grade: Sahih

        O people, your Lord is one and your father Adam is one. There is no favor of an Arab over a foreigner, nor a foreigner over an Arab, and neither white skin over black skin, nor black skin over white skin, except by righteousness. Have I not delivered the message?

        Source: Musnad Aḥmad 22978, Grade: Sahih

        Behold! Verily, you have no virtue over one with white skin or black skin, except by favor of righteousness.

        Source: Musnad Aḥmad 20885, Grade: Hasan

        And my camels:

        Sahl bin Sa’d (MAPH) reported: The Prophet (SAWS) said to Ali (MAPH), “By Allah, if a single person is guided by Allah through you, it will be better for you than a whole lot of red camels.” (Al-Bukhari and Muslim)

        Abu Hurairah (MAPH) reported: The Messenger of Allah (SAWS) said: “He who calls others to follow the Right Guidance will have a reward equal to the reward of those who follow him, without their reward being diminished in any respect on that account.” (Muslim)
        For Heaven's sake, here's his photograph, what more do you want?! Look and learn! Any more silly questions? No? Good!
        (Mrs.) Isabella White

        Hebrews 10:19 " Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the of "

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        • Brother Gonzalez
          Another brick in Donald´s wall - A.K.A "The Gonz"
          True Christian™
           
          • Sep 2016
          • 2087

          #5
          Re: Jesus is White

          Originally posted by Scoutman03 View Post
          Jesus was born in Bethlehem, so I wouldn't be surprised if he was lightly colored.

          Once again, Jesus is the Son of God, Mary was a surrogate. No DNA from her on Jesus, so where Jesus was born does not matter while establishing His color.


          This is Christianity 101, if you don't understand this you have no hope.
          1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the TRUMP of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first.

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          • James Hutchins
            True Christian™
            Just a Regular Nice Guy
             
            • Jun 2009
            • 29453

            #6
            Re: Jesus is White

            I knew a girl that had been born in deepest, darkest Africa, surrounded by jibber-jabbering jigaboos. She was as white as linen, with hair almost like spun gold.

            It just confirms, that because Jesus was born in an area where the nigras live, He did not get any of 'it' on Him. Priase His Glory!
            Matthew 17:2
            2 And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light.


            Seriously, have you ever seen a darkie shine like the sun?
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            Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
            Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
            Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
            Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
            Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
            Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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            • Isabella White
              True Christian™ Icon of Feminine Virtue
               
              • Mar 2019
              • 4343

              #7
              Re: Jesus is White

              Originally posted by James Hutchins View Post
              I knew a girl that had been born in deepest, darkest Africa, surrounded by jibber-jabbering jigaboos. She was as white as linen, with hair almost like spun gold.

              It just confirms, that because Jesus was born in an area where the nigras live, He did not get any of 'it' on Him. Priase His Glory!
              Matthew 17:2
              2 And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light.


              Seriously, have you ever seen a darkie shine like the sun?
              Amen, Brother Hutchins! Amen, and to God be the Glory!! And thank you for confirming the obvious, even though "some people" refuse to see the truth. Not only do I so heartily approve, but so does Jesus! A blessed day to you, Dear. Sincerely, Isabella W.
              (Mrs.) Isabella White

              Hebrews 10:19 " Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the of "

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              • Dennis Lukes
                Innkeeper for Christ
                True Christian™
                • Dec 2018
                • 2388

                #8
                Re: Jesus is White

                Originally posted by Scoutman03 View Post
                he was lightly colored.
                By the way, the negroes don't like being called "colored." It tends to set them off, and they shoot and steal when they get get riled. Bear Colossians 3:8 in mind before coming here to spew white supremacist rhetoric and racial bigotry. We don't want to hear it.
                I was sinking deep in sin far from the peaceful shore,
                Very deeply stained within, sinking to rise no more;
                But the Master of the Sea heard my despairing cry,
                From the waters lifted me, now safe am I!

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                • Dana723
                  Forum member
                  Forum Member
                  • Oct 2017
                  • 771

                  #9
                  Re: Jesus is White

                  I don't really care about helping you, but I am wondering why you thought you could use a picture of Frank Zappa as your avatar.
                  Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?
                  1 Corinthians 11:13

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                  • MitzaLizalor
                    Completely CRAZY for the Lord
                    True Christian™
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 14324

                    #10
                    Re: Jesus is White

                    It's called "Muruna" but the tea-towel is a bit of a giveaway!

                    The Bible tells us everything important we need to know. For example we do need to know what a firmament is but not necessarily what shape it is.

                    Similarly for fabrics. Not all cloth is equally acceptable to God and He's explained about that but which garments should be worn is left up to us. Not entirely, there are some restrictions applied as appropriate.


                    THE BIBLE
                    Revelation 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow and his eyes were as a flame of fire.

                    Song of Solomon 5:10 My beloved is white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand.


                    It's always disappointing when, having posted Scripture, the doubters kick in with oh it doesn't mean that. Therefore a simple diagram is required and I'm happy to spend a few minutes on that. First some reading comprehension revision. Today we're using words of 1 (one) syllable. There are 2 (two) words. The reason why they're different words is because they mean different things.

                    Here is the word list.
                    1. head
                    2. hair
                    At right there are two pictures. Can you tell which is which?

                    TOP PICTURE
                    tick box
                    head
                    hair

                    BOTTOM PICTURE
                    tick box
                    head
                    hair


                    In Revelation an encounter with The Risen Christ is described. Two aspects of belovèd Jesus are covered in the passage I've quoted. The first aspect described is His head. What does The Bible tell us?
                    THE HEAD
                    tick box
                    it is white
                    it is purple
                    it is tartan

                    The second aspect described is His hair. What does The Bible tell us?
                    THE HAIR
                    tick box
                    it is blue
                    it is white
                    it is dyed and sculpted to look like a pineapple

                    The Song of Solomon celebrates the love of Christ and the love shared by His church for Him. The description is very clear, Jesus is white, just as in Revelation when John described Him and in particular His head. In the illustration with hair and head combined it's obvious we're dealing with a white man. Most noticeable in the description (of the head) is skin tone. Once you've removed the hair there's not much left to be white. In the fulness of time most white men have white hair whether or not it started off as white. Pineapple hair does not occur naturally and obviously anyone could have their sculpted to look like that. Sometimes the hair falls out altogether. In Revelation we're assured that Jesus had not gone bald and that He remained a white man.

                    You see how clear The Bible is? And that's what disappoints me. It's there in black & white, along with all the other information about Jesus, yet still they turn up going oh Jesus was middle eastern and would have brown/black/coffee/olive skin. If they're just going to make stuff up they could make up anything. Why not make up a Jesus born to Eve, eaten by the serpent, reviving after 3 (three) days and endorsing idol worship? That would suite most people quite well who just get on with their idols anyway. Goblin idols, Moon idols, Chinaman idols, Frog idols, some people even make Jesus idols but none of them have anything to do with The Bible and we have no other source for what He did or said or what He looked like.

                    After the first contradiction it's pretty much down hill all the way.
                    Everything becomes arbitrary with a single certainty remaining.


                    HELL, FOREVER

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                    • Basilissa
                      South of the Border outreach program
                      True Christian™
                       
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 12975

                      #11
                      Re: Jesus is White

                      There isn't much to add after Sister Mitza's brilliant post, but we do have a link answering your question:

                      This forum is dedicated to the history of Christianity, and its impact on the history of the world.



                      Except that if you are looking for a scientific proof, well, you're not getting any because science goes against God's Will. What we can provide is Biblical proof. Much better.
                      God created fossils to test our faith.

                      * * *

                      My favorite LBC sermons:
                      True Christians are Perfect!
                      True Christian™ Love.
                      Salvation™ made Easy!
                      You can’t be a Christian if you don’t believe the Old Testament.
                      Jesus is impolite. Deal with it.
                      Jesus is xenophobic and so should we.
                      Sanctity of Life is NOT a Biblical Concept.
                      Biblical view on modern-day slavery.
                      The Immorality of the "Universal Declaration of Human Rights."
                      Geneva Conventions vs. The Holy Bible.
                      God HATES Rational Thinking!
                      True Christian™ Man as a spitting image of God.

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                      • MitzaLizalor
                        Completely CRAZY for the Lord
                        True Christian™
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 14324

                        #12
                        Re: Jesus is White

                        Originally posted by Mustafa Jihad2 View Post
                        Salam True Christian friends! Im sorry ive been absent i was busy preparing for Ramadan trying to kick bad habits unsuccessfully, etc. I hope y’all are ok and may God guide us to the right path.

                        Today, I have a favor to ask from you. I need you to prove me, Academically, that Jesus was white. Please note you dont need to prove it to ME, as i already know he was white. The reasons I believe he was white are different from yours, you believe God is white so his son is white, while I believe God has no color because he is above all creation, azza wa jal, but Jesus was historically a Palestinian and while today only 40% of Palestinians are white because of African interbreeding, 2000 years ago all Palestinians were white, so it only makes historical sense to know Jesus alaihi Salam, was white.

                        But as you have your reasons and I have my reasons to prove he was white, they are neither acceptable from an impartial point of view. Ineed your help, into proving, preferably from direct Bible quotes, that he was white.

                        The reason I need this, and im being honest with you, is to convert black Christians to Islam, so I can get the reward of Red Camels. I want the red camels so i need to convert some souls to Islam, and
                        you dont really like Blacks do you? You dont want black people around your church (not criticizing, just stating the obvious here) and my Prophet said color is not important just get souls for red camels so its a 100 win win situation for all of us. You get rid of blacks, and i get red camels.

                        So please True Christian friends, help me in this endevour proving Jesus alaihi salam was white, and for me to get red camels and u get less blacks in Freehold.

                        PS: for the trolls that will say my religion doesnt say a black soul doesnt count, or that i dont get red camels for guiding souls to Islam, read this before opening your mouths(warning, non Christian scripture below. This is shared not to convert, proselytize, or to separate any True Christian from his faith, this is shared academically just to prove my opinion.)



                        Verily, Allah Almighty created Adam from a handful which He took from the earth, so the children of Adam come in accordance with the earth. Some come with red skin, white skin, or black skin, and whatever is in between: thin, thick, dirty, and clean.

                        Source: Sunan al-Tirmidhī 2955, Grade: Sahih

                        O people, your Lord is one and your father Adam is one. There is no favor of an Arab over a foreigner, nor a foreigner over an Arab, and neither white skin over black skin, nor black skin over white skin, except by righteousness. Have I not delivered the message?

                        Source: Musnad Aḥmad 22978, Grade: Sahih

                        Behold! Verily, you have no virtue over one with white skin or black skin, except by favor of righteousness.

                        Source: Musnad Aḥmad 20885, Grade: Hasan

                        And my camels:

                        Sahl bin Sa’d (MAPH) reported: The Prophet (SAWS) said to Ali (MAPH), “By Allah, if a single person is guided by Allah through you, it will be better for you than a whole lot of red camels.” (Al-Bukhari and Muslim)

                        Abu Hurairah (MAPH) reported: The Messenger of Allah (SAWS) said: “He who calls others to follow the Right Guidance will have a reward equal to the reward of those who follow him, without their reward being diminished in any respect on that account.” (Muslim)
                        There was I time I never heard of Al-Bukhari. What I would like is to un-hear Al-Bukhari and every other maniac ever introduced to a Christian nation. I fail to see why you'd accept The Bible when dealing with Adam or Abraham or Jesus being white but suddenly reject The Bible when it mentions He was born of a virgin and therefore is God.

                        God is Jesus. Everyone knows that! (Well, everyone worth speaking of.) Your problem is an attitude on the Arabian peninsular to inferior types—as they surely must be from their treatment—among whom are divers Africans, Malays, American law students gap-yearing in hareems, Ceylonese, Yazidi and Thais. Here at Landover we are more sensitive to the foibles of others and know that not everyone appreciates the same form of worship. For example I would feel alienated in a congregation where everyone was speaking Korean. It's a lovely country, the Christians there are lovely people and the economy is booming. So much is new! But I don't speak Korean. Similarly in Paris. Less of the lovely country and well ordered city but the Christians are Christians (just not very many of them) and even though their language is not total gibberish still I prefer a more familiar congregation. French and Korean Christians are wonderful people, don't get me wrong, I simply identify more readily with my own culture.

                        As a result I am sensitive to the preferences of different ethnicities in my own country. What they prefer, accents and dialects they are familiar with, is as important back home for them as it is for me over there. Landover is happy to provide that alternative.

                        It's what Jesus would do.

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                        • BibleReader2231
                          Forum Member
                          Forum Member
                          • Jul 2018
                          • 567

                          #13
                          Re: Jesus is White

                          Originally posted by Dennis Lukes View Post
                          By the way, the negroes don't like being called "colored." It tends to set them off, and they shoot and steal when they get get riled. Bear Colossians 3:8 in mind before coming here to spew white supremacist rhetoric and racial bigotry. We don't want to hear it.
                          I always tend to call them “nigras” because that’s how my Pa raised me. They never really talk back to me after that but I think it’s necahse they are usually in denial about what they really are.

                          On that note, we have a picture of Jesus dressed in the confederate flag over the sofa of our living room. Nobody really knows who painted it so we take it as an additional sign that Jesus was really white as snow.
                          My name is Maxine Levantine. I am 17 and follow the KJV Bible to a T. If you are wanting to hit on me you can turn away. THIS is reserved for Jesus and my future husband (whoever that may be).

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                          • Isabella White
                            True Christian™ Icon of Feminine Virtue
                             
                            • Mar 2019
                            • 4343

                            #14
                            Re: Jesus is White

                            Originally posted by BibleReader2231 View Post
                            I always tend to call them “nigras” because that’s how my Pa raised me. They never really talk back to me after that but I think it’s necahse they are usually in denial about what they really are.

                            On that note, we have a picture of Jesus dressed in the confederate flag over the sofa of our living room. Nobody really knows who painted it so we take it as an additional sign that Jesus was really white as snow.
                            Oh, I think I know the photo you've mentioned, Dear much-younger sister. I have one above the fireplace that is similar. And being it's above the fireplace, it brings great warmth to my old heart when I think of the hellfire that awaits THOSE people. A blessed day to you, Dear. Sincerely, Isabella W.
                            (Mrs.) Isabella White

                            Hebrews 10:19 " Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the of "

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                            • Isabella White
                              True Christian™ Icon of Feminine Virtue
                               
                              • Mar 2019
                              • 4343

                              #15
                              Re: Jesus is White

                              Originally posted by BibleReader2231 View Post
                              I always tend to call them “nigras” because that’s how my Pa raised me. They never really talk back to me after that but I think it’s necahse they are usually in denial about what they really are.

                              On that note, we have a picture of Jesus dressed in the confederate flag over the sofa of our living room. Nobody really knows who painted it so we take it as an additional sign that Jesus was really white as snow.
                              By the way, dear Maxine, I meant to say that the photo that's above my fireplace is just next to one of my father and his friends in church. He's second from the right in the first row. You can't miss him. A blessed day to you, Dear Sister. Sincerely, Isabella W.

                              (Mrs.) Isabella White

                              Hebrews 10:19 " Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the of "

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