It is impossible for free will to exist.

[Hyper-Calvinist]

If God foresaw what you would do before matter existed then created you, you cannot act outside the light of which he foresaw you acting.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: It is impossible for free will to exist.

If God foresaw what you would do before matter existed then created you, you cannot act outside the light of which he foresaw you acting.

You're going to look fine preaching that to Jesus in Heaven! Do you know that Jesus directs some to the Down elevator? You make the mistake of applying frail human logic to The Lord of Hosts, The Almighty, The Holy Trinity. Would you like to apply the same logic to the miracle of walking on water, the curing of the leper? The feeding of the 5000? Thus denying Christ's Godliness!

Spawn of Satan! You need a dose of Faith and quickly.

[Jean Poole]

Re: It is impossible for free will to exist.

Mr. Calvinist, (or Miss), I suggest you leave the thinking to the Landover Pastors. Have more Faith in Jesus.

[Frank Jones]

Re: It is impossible for free will to exist.

If God foresaw what you would do before matter existed then created you, you cannot act outside the light of which he foresaw you acting.

Hi Communist, welcome to God's chosen forums. Let me ask you a question.

If free will didn't exist would we have as many sinners in the world as we do going to hell with you? No you filthy scumbag, if there was no free will and the Lord chose our destiny we would not have demons like you walking on this earth.

Psalms 3:4:

But know that the LORD hath set apart him that is godly for himself: the LORD will hear when I call unto him.

We CHOOSE to love Jesus Christ and accept that he made the ultimate sacrifice to cleanse us of our sin. The Good Lord™ then sets us aside from the rest of you sinners for himself. You probably use this as an excuse to fornicate and do other ungodly things, don't you? Are you a witch too, communist? Do you hate America, and freedom?

[Hyper-Calvinist]

Re: It is impossible for free will to exist.

"If free will didn't exist would we have as many sinners in the world as we do going to hell with you? No you filthy scumbag, if there was no free will and the Lord chose our destiny we would not have demons like you walking on this earth."

God let evil roam about to make the triumph over it more nice! You of all people should know that.

"We CHOOSE to love Jesus Christ and accept that he made the ultimate sacrifice to cleanse us of our sin. The Good Lord™ then sets us aside from the rest of you sinners for himself. You probably use this as an excuse to fornicate and do other ungodly things, don't you? Are you a witch too, communist? Do you hate America, and freedom?"

No, I don't do those things. And NOONE chooses God (Romans 3:10-11). This is GOD'S painting, not yours Mr. Arminian.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: It is impossible for free will to exist.

[...]No, I don't do those things. And NOONE chooses God (Romans 3:10-11). This is GOD'S painting, not yours Mr. Arminian.

I take it you did not bother reading the whole of the chapter?

I note you are avoiding applying your satanic logic to The Miracles of Christ. As you are striding so confidently down the Broad Path, would you like to give us the benefit of your logic on those?

And this reference to God painting. Hitler was a painter are you comparing him and God?

[Frank Jones]

Re: It is impossible for free will to exist.

"If free will didn't exist would we have as many sinners in the world as we do going to hell with you? No you filthy scumbag, if there was no free will and the Lord chose our destiny we would not have demons like you walking on this earth."

God let evil roam about to make the triumph over it more nice! You of all people should know that.

"We CHOOSE to love Jesus Christ and accept that he made the ultimate sacrifice to cleanse us of our sin. The Good Lord™ then sets us aside from the rest of you sinners for himself. You probably use this as an excuse to fornicate and do other ungodly things, don't you? Are you a witch too, communist? Do you hate America, and freedom?"

No, I don't do those things. And NOONE chooses God (Romans 3:10-11). This is GOD'S painting, not yours Mr. Arminian.

I can tell you don't choose to have Jesus Christ in your life, and I can also tell you this: you have a one way ticket to hell Mr Communist.

I can also tell you're one of those re-res. Let me tell you something, re-re commie, we here at Landover believe in the WHOLE bible. The verses you THINK are telling you that nobody chooses God are talking about the sin laiden jews and gentiles who believe in satan, not the Chosen Children of Jesus™ here atLandover.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: It is impossible for free will to exist.

People have free will. A man can choose to sin in any way that he wants. It is when we repent of our sin, and voluntarily give up our free will so that we can do the Father's Will instead of our own, that we can be saved.

A man who certainly earned his self-given title of "the world's wickedest man", Aliester Crowley once bluntly stated that "magick" (i.e. witchcraft) is nothing more than exercising your own will. Now that man was a liar, a witch, a homosexual, and a drug addict, but he was absolutely correct in that statement.

Check this out:
1Sam 15:23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.

Sin is rebellion. Anyone who uses his free will to choose to remain in sin is a practicing witch.

I wouldn't go so far as to call myself a Calvinist, but I like a whole lot of what John Calvin had to say. Calvinists do not deny that man has free will. That's a "hyper-Calvinist" thing.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[nuncio]

People have free will.

...and therefore subatomic particles also have free will.
It's simple mathematics:

http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/35391/title/Math_Trek__Do_subatomic_particles_have_free_will%3F

Contrary to what non-Christian Albert Einstein said,
God DOES play dice with the universe.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: It is impossible for free will to exist.

...and therefore subatomic particles also have free will.
It's simple mathematics:

http://www.sciencenews.org/view/gene...e_free_will%3F

That's all a bunch of navel-gazing nonsense. No one has ever observed a subatomic particle, yet they talk about them as if their existence is proven fact. I'm not claiming they don't exist, but I'm not going to accept them simply on some egghead's say-so with no proof to back it up.

Even if subatomic particles do exist, they don't have souls, so they can't have free will. Only humans, angels, and demons have souls, so only humans, angels, and demons have free will.

Free will is the capacity for sin. If you can explain to me how a hypothetical subatomic particle could possibly sin, then I might be willing to consider the possibility that IF they exist, then maybe they also have free will.

According to your world-view, if a sub-atomic particle is capable of sin, do they go to Hell if they decay without accepting Jesus as their Savior?

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Hyper-Calvinist]

Re: It is impossible for free will to exist.

"And this reference to God painting. Hitler was a painter are you comparing him and God?"
No
"I wouldn't go so far as to call myself a Calvinist, but I like a whole lot of what John Calvin had to say. Calvinists do not deny that man has free will. That's a "hyper-Calvinist" thing."
A slaves will. You haven't read into Calvinism much have you? Were free in so far as we do what we DESIRE. That doesn't mean we have libertarian free will.

As for the rest of you Arminian fools, Paul came to similar objections. Read Romans 9.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: It is impossible for free will to exist.

You haven't read into Calvinism much have you?

Other than John Calvin's complete commentary, the Geneva Bible with John Calvin's annotations in the margins, about a third of Charles H. Spurgeon's sermons, and several other works by Calvinist authors, no I haven't.

I guess I don't know a single thing about Calvinism.

Were free in so far as we do what we DESIRE. That doesn't mean we have libertarian free will.

Correct. We have free will as defined by God in the Bible, not some egghead philosopher's definition of free will.

As for the rest of you Arminian fools, Paul came to similar objections. Read Romans 9.

There are no Arminians here. We aren't hellbound Methodists or Pentecostals. There's also no hyper-Calvinist Presbyterians here, other than you.

Chapter 9 is my favorite part of Romans. Chapter 3 would be my second.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Capt. Aaron Portway]

Re: It is impossible for free will to exist.

If God foresaw what you would do before matter existed then created you, you cannot act outside the light of which he foresaw you acting.

"If free will didn't exist would we have as many sinners in the world as we do going to hell with you? No you filthy scumbag, if there was no free will and the Lord chose our destiny we would not have demons like you walking on this earth."

God let evil roam about to make the triumph over it more nice! You of all people should know that.

"We CHOOSE to love Jesus Christ and accept that he made the ultimate sacrifice to cleanse us of our sin. The Good Lord™ then sets us aside from the rest of you sinners for himself. You probably use this as an excuse to fornicate and do other ungodly things, don't you? Are you a witch too, communist? Do you hate America, and freedom?"

No, I don't do those things. And NOONE chooses God (Romans 3:10-11). This is GOD'S painting, not yours Mr. Arminian.

"And this reference to God painting. Hitler was a painter are you comparing him and God?"
No
"I wouldn't go so far as to call myself a Calvinist, but I like a whole lot of what John Calvin had to say. Calvinists do not deny that man has free will. That's a "hyper-Calvinist" thing."
A slaves will. You haven't read into Calvinism much have you? Were free in so far as we do what we DESIRE. That doesn't mean we have libertarian free will.

As for the rest of you Arminian fools, Paul came to similar objections. Read Romans 9.

Was the point of your posts to bore me to tears? If it was, you succeeded in spades sir!

Take your Predestination clap-trap to a Protestant Reform Church where there are other misinformed false Christian sinners like yourself! You can all agree with each other and talk about what idiots we True Christian™ Independent Baptists are. And then when each of you blasphemers dies, you can be dumbfounded as you begin eternity with Satan!

[Hyper-Calvinist]

Re: It is impossible for free will to exist.

"Take your Predestination clap-trap to a Protestant Reform Church where there are other misinformed false Christian sinners like yourself! You can all agree with each other and talk about what idiots we True Christian™ Independent Baptists are. And then when each of you blasphemers dies, you can be dumbfounded as you begin eternity with Satan!"

Jealous Credo Baptist

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: It is impossible for free will to exist.

Jealous Credo Baptist

According to Acts 8:36-87, what is the one requirement for baptism?

I notice that you had no response to my post, where I put all of your "objections" to rest.

Pastor Billy-Reuben