Did God Really Say This?

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

The other day, I read

"Do not let a flaunting woman coax and cozen and deceive you: she is after your barn. The man who trusts womankind trusts deceivers." (Compare: Proverb:21:9: It is better to dwell in a corner of the housetop, than with a brawling woman in a wide house.)

Such wise advice that seems eternally true... I felt the quote must come from Ecclesiastes, or Psalms, or Proverbs and I had somehow missed it.

But no! It comes from "Hesiod's Works and Days" https://people.sc.fsu.edu/~dduke/lectures/hesiod1.pdf written in Greek about 700BC (about the same time as Isaiah), but worse still, the poem is filled with references to Zeus, and the rest of them!

It has always bothered me that the Greeks believed all the gods lived up Mount Olympus, but apparently, none of them bothered to go up the mountain to check.

That aside, I wondered is it possible for a piece of profound wisdom and deepest truth to exist anywhere else other than in the Bible?

Surely, everything else is of Satan or the puny works of man.

[Johny Joe Hold]

The other day, I read

"Do not let a flaunting woman coax and cozen and deceive you: she is after your barn. The man who trusts womankind trusts deceivers." (Compare: Proverb:21:9: It is better to dwell in a corner of the housetop, than with a brawling woman in a wide house.)

That aside, I wondered is it possible for a piece of profound wisdom and deepest truth to exist anywhere else other than in the Bible?

Surely, everything else is of Satan or the puny works of man.

Thank you Pastor for sharing what the ancient Greeks claimed they had discovered. While I am not a theologian I have read the story of Adam and Eve. That Eve ate the forbidden fruit first and then used her beauty and beguiling ways to persuade the reluctant Adam to eat it means we must forever forbid women from positions of authority.

[MitzaLizalor]

Adam's sin was listening to Eve. Eve's sin was being deceived.
Genesis 3:17 ––– I Timothy 2:14

There are quite a lot of photos of Mt Olympus now. At some point they must have gone up. When they did (let's say around the time of Epicurus, Euclid & Archimedes 300-ish BC) the various temple cults, whose leaders knew they were peddling balderdash, had to get their act together or go under. Amalgamating into a single temple with a single pontiff brought all the idols under the one umbrella where A funds could go in a single pot to coordinate political influence and B the "statues" could get rebranded in the fulness of time as whatever turned up when the Romans took over. Worked well for a while. Not working so well now – and for the same reason. Their claims can be examined and their claims fail. If only they'd read the Scriptures of the conveniently located monotheistic religion they hijacked!

But they didn't. As a result, even by that standard they fail, quite apart from the idiotic claims any child could see through if they weren't intimidated by burnings at the stake, threats of Limbo (now acknowledged as false) for infants and Purgatory (having no basis in anything anywhere) for adults. That's why they think in centuries and talk in circles with big words they made up.

Matthew 18:3 KJV
And [Jesus] said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Jerusalem Bible ©1966 †
Then he said, "I tell you solemnly, unless you change and become like little children you will never enter the kingdom of heaven."

The big words cannot be understood by most adults, let alone by minds eligible for admission to The Kingdom Of Heaven, which is how we know those words have no meaning at all. They never did.


† ROMISH TRANSLATION INCLUDED FOR REFERENCE

[Johny Joe Hold]

The big words cannot be understood by most adults, let alone by minds eligible for admission to The Kingdom Of Heaven, which is how we know those words have no meaning at all. They never did.

Yes Sister. Like that word "Zeus". What in the world does that mean?

[MitzaLizalor]

Yes Sister. Like that word "Zeus". What in the world does that mean?

Eew! I'm trying to eat!!

Knee-jerk reaction would be to look at their poetry. Cleanthes? Epimenides? How did they perceive Zeus or his children. And are those children us.

[BrotherLarry]

The few restored historical movies of the days of Zeus (such as Clash of the Titans) give us a lot of insight why those gods failed. Zeus, Hera, and others didn't get along like Jesus and the Heavenly Father did. They were tough times.