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  • davidbrainfart
    Unsaved trash, cannukistani terrorist
    • Dec 2011
    • 128

    #526
    Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

    Originally posted by Redeemed Papist View Post
    Our God, however, is constant since Genesis and has never once changed. The message is the same throughout. This is how we know He is real.
    Genesis has not changed, at least since the King James Version was released. What changes is the interpretation, such as reading white supremacy into the fable of Noah and his sons.

    But hey! I'm brainless now, so what do I know?

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    • Pastor Ezekiel
      Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
       
      • Sep 2006
      • 78552

      #527
      Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

      Originally posted by davidbrainless View Post
      Genesis has not changed, at least since the King James Version was released. What changes is the interpretation, such as reading white supremacy into the fable of Noah and his sons.
      You cannot interpret the Holy Bible!

      2 Peter 1:20: Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.


      Originally posted by davidbrainless View Post
      But hey! I'm brainless now, so what do I know?
      Absolutely nothing.
      Who Will Jesus Damn?

      Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

      Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

      Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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      • MitzaLizalor
        Completely CRAZY for the Lord
        True Christian™
        • Sep 2010
        • 14173

        #528
        Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

        Originally posted by davidbrainless View Post
        Genesis has not changed, at least since the King James Version was released. What changes is the interpretation, such as reading white supremacy into the fable of Noah and his sons.
        The expression "Bible Believing" indicates that we believe The Bible and as such understand that Noah is not a fable.

        What you're referring to however concerns one of Noah's grandsons. Although he is not mentioned as being present for the nakedness viewing episode, Canaan and all of his descentants were cursed. There have been a number of translations. Here are a few of them:
        .from the point of view of Ham upon hearing God's prophecy of justice
        ..from the point of view of Shem
        ...from the point of view of Japeth
        I am not endorsing these variants but supplying them so that you
        can see the
        interpretations have not varied very much have they.

        When we learn how these wretches were blighted BY GOD (not by some abstruse interpretation of yours, or the pope, or Martin Luther King) we are able to see exactly what befalls the vile pervert who disregards His Perfect Love and follows the debased promptings of SATAN. As if it were not obvious which peoples comprise the accursed progeny of Ham, The Bible continues:

        GENESIS 10:6,15-20
        And the sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, and Phut, and Canaan..
        And Canaan begat Sidon his firstborn, and Heth, And the Jebusite, and the Amorite, and the Girgasite, And the Hivite, and the Arkite, and the Sinite, And the Arvadite, and the Zemarite, and the Hamathite: and afterward were the families of the Canaanites spread abroad. And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon, as thou comest to Gerar, unto Gaza; as thou goest, unto Sodom, and Gomorrah, and Admah, and Zeboim, even unto Lasha.

        [READ THE WHOLE CHAPTER HERE ]

        There were very few people in the world, just Noah and his family, and they gradually spread out to form the distribution we have today. Only one region is cursed: the region inhabited by the servant of servants [KJV]. The Bible explains whom these degenerates would be enslaved to and even details in what directions Noah's sons spread out: Shem is explicitly revealed to have migrated eastwards and in the passage posted above we have Canaan moving south. It is obvious where they finished up and obvious that God's curse has indeed remained in force.

        None of this has to do with the "skin colour" you keep obsessing over. It has to do with rejection of God's Excellent Lovingkindness and blatant denial of His Just Law. God does not want that to happen and He has told us how to avoid the certainty of HELL FOREVER but many choose to do the opposite of what He commands. It's their choice.

        Psalm 63:3 Because thy lovingkindness is better than life, my lips shall praise thee.

        Hallelujah!!

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        • Rev. M. Rodimer
          Honorary True Christian™
          Forum Member
          • May 2008
          • 13996

          #529
          Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

          Originally posted by davidbrainless View Post
          This church motivates through fear. It discourages questions. I have received several infractions.
          Actually, God motivates through fear, and discourages questions. As you'd know if you actually read the Bible.

          idiotic whining removed
          Did you honestly join a Christian church's discussion forum so you could whine and complain about not being accepted, when you are here to mock God?

          I can't tell if you're an imbecile, an autistic, or a jackass. Which is it?
          Originally posted by The Humanist View Post
          What a surprise that the soft Christians these people hate seem to universally seize on those things and exclude all the hateful stuff! It's like they have a set of basic morals in their heads that have nothing to do with God. How odd that these same morals crop up all over the world on a basic principle of sharing and fairness.
          Thank you for the evidence that God's morality is inborn in all humans . . . but most choose to ignore it.
          Bible boring? Nonsense!
          Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
          You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!

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          • Roseluck
            Unsaved trash, rabid feminazi
            • Jan 2012
            • 62

            #530
            Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

            Originally posted by Redeemed Papist View Post
            He does. Pi=3 if God says it does.
            Pi does not equal to three. It will only equal three if you round the number up on the order of 1.0.

            Pi = 3.1415926535...

            This graphic should explain:
            Nope.

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            • Jack O'fagan
              With faith as immovable as the Earth
              True Christian™
              • Feb 2011
              • 4836

              #531
              Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

              Originally posted by Roseluck View Post
              Pi does not equal to three. It will only equal three if you round the number up on the order of 1.0.

              Pi = 3.1415926535...

              This graphic should explain:
              Now let me think. What should I believe? The word of God or a cartoon.

              I think God wins that don't you?

              1 Samuel 2:3 Talk no more so exceeding proudly; let not arrogancy come out of your mouth: for the LORD is a God of knowledge, and by him actions are weighed.

              YIC

              Jack
              Genesis 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.

              sigpic

              I know God wouldn't let me believe in Him if He didn't exist.

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              • Mary Etheldreda
                Gushing for Jesus
                 
                • Sep 2011
                • 23775

                #532
                Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

                Originally posted by Jack O'fagan View Post
                Now let me think. What should I believe? The word of God or a cartoon.

                I think God wins that don't you?

                1 Samuel 2:3 Talk no more so exceeding proudly; let not arrogancy come out of your mouth: for the LORD is a God of knowledge, and by him actions are weighed.

                YIC

                Jack
                Isn't that silly! God invented art. He is the Great Artist! To think, a cartoon would know better than the One who created the cartoonist.
                Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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                • VictoryOS
                  True Christian™ Beauty Queen
                   
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 5388

                  #533
                  Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

                  Originally posted by Mary Etheldreda View Post
                  Isn't that silly! God invented art. He is the Great Artist! To think, a cartoon would know better than the One who created the cartoonist.
                  The Devil has his gnarled fingers in everything, doesn't he Sister?
                  Let Jesus Christ Wash You Clean
                  in 2016

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                  • MitzaLizalor
                    Completely CRAZY for the Lord
                    True Christian™
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 14173

                    #534
                    Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

                    Originally posted by Rev. M. Rodimer View Post
                    Thank you for the evidence that God's morality is inborn in all humans . . . but most choose to ignore it.
                    ROMANS 2
                    14
                    For when the Gentiles which haue not the Law, doe by nature the things contained in the Law: these hauing not the Law, are a Law vnto themselues,
                    15 Which shew the worke of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witnesse, and their thoughts the meane while accusing, or else excusing one another:

                    ©1611

                    It seems as though "the Law written in their hearts" might be a suitable guide for these perfidious wantons but we know that atheists are continually banging on about their "consciences" and some sort of "inbuilt morality" but look at the world which has resulted!

                    ..Murder
                    ...Rape
                    ....Theft
                    .....Lies
                    ......Deception
                    .......Unjust wars (for example in Africa)
                    ........Communism
                    .........Harlotry
                    ..........Starvation
                    ...........Pestilence
                    ............Disease
                    .............Plague

                    God has told us: that is exactly what you'd expect. God has also told us the reason why:

                    Ecclesiastes 3:11a He hath made euery thing beautifull in his time: also hee hath set the world in their heart..
                    Despite any residual "conscience" in the heathen majority, the world they cook up nevertheless remains a cauldron of lascivious delight for SATAN.
                    The prince they follow is doomed John 16:11 — no knowledge of God comes from worldly inspiration.


                    Ecclesiastes 3:11b .. so that no man can finde out the worke that God maketh from the beginning to the end.
                    ©1611

                    The ultimate outcome when people follow the proddings of their "consciences" has been in 2 stages.

                    .STAGE ONE: paganism
                    ..STAGE TWO: annihilation

                    The prince of this world may come as hard as he likes AT us but he will never get any of his delusional gobbledygook IN us because we are the property of JESUS and there is nothing of satan in Him:

                    John 14:30 Heereafter I will not talke much with you: for the prince of this world commeth, and hath nothing in me.


                    Praise God ! ! !

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                    • Dr_R_Duke
                      Unsaved trash
                      Under Investigation
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 1

                      #535
                      Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

                      Wow - you sure have posted a lot of information here. Is this really accurate in your opinion. In addition, if it is accurate, what do you think we ought to do with or to these folks? What do you believe Jesus would do if faced with an atheist were he here today?

                      One thing that has always troubled me is that it would seem that everyone who is not a Christian is an atheist as it pertains to christianity. By my estimates - that means that most of the people in the world today are atheists as to their views on the truth of the bible. (in other words - from the point of view of a muslim - you would be an atheist, right?)

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                      • Redeemed Papist
                        Former Mary Hailer who has seen The Light(c)
                        True Christian™
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 10409

                        #536
                        Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

                        Atheist means not a theist.

                        Infidel is more apposite to what you are on about.
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                        Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

                        John 5:46,47 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

                        Join me in scoffing at backwards Muslims clinging to their beliefs in the face of the evidence!
                        The truth about volcanos
                        Sex and debauchery in public schools
                        Faith wins over science (explained for even the very stupid)
                        God Cures AIDS - GLORY!
                        Desert whale bones prove Great Flood once and for all.

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                        • VictoryOS
                          True Christian™ Beauty Queen
                           
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 5388

                          #537
                          Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

                          Originally posted by Dr_R_Duke View Post
                          Wow - you sure have posted a lot of information here. Is this really accurate in your opinion.
                          Yes, but more importantly it's accurate in God's opinion!
                          Let Jesus Christ Wash You Clean
                          in 2016

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                          • MitzaLizalor
                            Completely CRAZY for the Lord
                            True Christian™
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 14173

                            #538
                            Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

                            Originally posted by Jack O'fagan View Post
                            Now let me think. What should I believe? The word of God or a cartoon.

                            I think God wins that don't you?
                            Not only that Mr O'fagan but SATAN LOSES!

                            Poster Roseluck must think we're all idiots. We are shown a wheel:

                            THE WHEEL followed by blah blah blah + an animation.






                            BUT BEFORE THE ANIMATION KICKS OFF THEY CHANGE THE SIZE OF THE WHEEL






                            WHEEL with added spokes and larger diameter



                            Well those methods might work for Roseluck down 'the crackhouse but they will certainly cut no ice here.

                            If you make the diameter larger OF COURSE the result will come out at more than 3. It's a different wheel

                            I always believe The Bible Mr O'fagan. No doubt the condition of perpetual deception so envenoms the atheist that they think they can lie to God and get away with it. They can't.

                            I JOHN 5
                            9
                            If we receiue the witnesse of men, the witnesse of God is greater: for this is the witnesse of God, which hee hath testified of his Sonne.
                            10 Hee that beleeueth on the Sonne of God, hath the witnesse in himselfe: he that beleeueth not God, hath made him a liar, because he beleeueth not the record that God gaue of his Sonne.
                            11 And this is the record, that God hath giuen to vs eternall life, and this life is in his Sonne.

                            ©1611

                            Hallelujah !

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                            • ExGay Alex
                              Helping boys become upright model citizens
                              True Christian™
                              • May 2008
                              • 1295

                              #539
                              Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

                              You know, I received for Christmas a book called "Why e=mc2" by two "scientists" in Manchester, England. I also received a book called "A brief history of time" by that atheist Stephen Hawking. (It is no wonder that God is punishing that sinner by slow paralysis. It is to God's credit that has been doing this a little at a time since 1965, giving him EVERY chance to repent and walk again, but Hawking refuses in a cosmic test of wills that will ultimately kill him).

                              Anyway, this book ends with descriptions of quarks and neutrinos and up particles and down particles and the earth really moves in a straight line but seems to orbit due to warping of spacetime. In fact, it starts with a concept that time goes slower if you are travel fast, which is demonstrably not true given that when I arrive in America from Europe, even if I set my watch to New York time before I leave, it still shows the correct time when we land.

                              Anyhow, all this is did was demonstrate to me the atheist mindset. These people have nothing to believe in, so they believe in nothing. This leads to a problem for them. If God did not create the world, then how was it composed? and of what materials? and what universal principles can be found in it? With the answers not easily observed, atheists write books in which they propound theses that no one can prove (has anyone ever seen a quark?). In other words, they just invent some totally implausible explanation.

                              Yep. When an physicist/atheist is confronted with a world whose functioning he does not understand, he just makes something up. And that is all quantum physics is: just some made up BS. Implausible theories of our origins from beyond the earth, speculation, assigning causes that we cannot see for effects that we can (i.e. we see light because we detect "photons," etc.). If a gluons and deutrons were really there, let them show themselves! Oh, the infinite imagination of atheists to explain a world that they do not understand.

                              In short, they STILL have not come up with a unified theory of how the universe works, and readily admit that the current "theories" are inadequate. But we will see them continuing to come up with stories and fables about how gravity works, etc.

                              Particle physics, e=mc2, special relativity, general relativity, conservation of momentum, string theory, all this is just invented fantasy made up by people who don't know how things work.

                              How things really work are set out in a great book, dictated by the power at the origin of the world and all things in it, that explain (i) how the universe was created; (ii) what forces lie within it (i.e. sin, godliness, obedience, punishment, etc.); (iii) how things work (by grace are ye saved through faith) and when the universe will end (when the trumpet of the Lord shall sound).


                              So simple, so beautiful, and yet atheists cling to outmoded beliefs dating from the Middle Ages from such Hell-bound sinners as Copernicus, and refuse to open their mind to discover how nature really operates.

                              These ancient theories refuse to die and people who never met Copernicus or Galileo or even Albert Einstein still write about them as if they know them and propagate descriptions of their deeds and opinions that for others to swallow hook, line and sinker.

                              It does not surprise me to see trickery on this thread such as the wheel graphic and other slights of hand.

                              I apologize that this post is so long. I know it's hard to read on the screen, but I just find it so sad that atheists actually just make stuff up and stubbornly believe it for centuries after.
                              "Come Unto Me. Put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath." (Matthew 19:14, Job 1:11).

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                              • WWJDnow
                                True Christian™
                                True Christian™
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 6296

                                #540
                                Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

                                Originally posted by Dr_R_Duke View Post
                                Is this really accurate in your opinion.
                                Everything we believe is backed up by the Bible.

                                What do you believe Jesus would do if faced with an atheist were he here today?
                                When Jesus ran into wayward Jews, he called them vipers and blamed them for the deaths of all of the righteous men throughout history. I'm sure he'd have something equally pithy to say to the atheists today. Hell, half of them are Jews, anyway.

                                One thing that has always troubled me is that it would seem that everyone who is not a Christian is an atheist as it pertains to christianity... in other words - from the point of view of a muslim - you would be an atheist, right?)
                                Muslims, Mormons, Catholics, Episcopalians, atheists, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, they're all riding the same express train to Hell. What difference does it make what we call them?

                                Originally posted by ExGay Alex View Post
                                In fact, it starts with a concept that time goes slower if you are travel fast, which is demonstrably not true given that when I arrive in America from Europe, even if I set my watch to New York time before I leave, it still shows the correct time when we land.
                                Let's see the atheists refute THAT experiment! But, brother, I have to warn you, there are many homos here in New York, so you might want to stay away. You wouldn't want to backslide, would you? Of course, Europe isn't any better.

                                Particle physics, e=mc2, special relativity, general relativity, conservation of momentum, string theory, all this is just invented fantasy... How things really work are set out in a great book, dictated by the power at the origin of the world and all things in it...
                                Amen. Who needs all of these crazy mathematical "theories" when we have the Good Book. Want to know how gravity works? It's simple. If God the Father wants something to fall, it falls. Otherwise, it doesn't fall:

                                Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father. Matthew 10:29

                                It's not just a one-man operation, though! Sometimes Jesus decides to keep something from falling. Jesus does this using the word of His power:

                                Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high: Hebrews 1:3

                                So, if something falls, it's because God the Father decided to make it fall and Jesus didn't hold it up by uttering the word of His power.
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