Is Jesus God?

[TruePath]

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
قُلْ هُوَ اللَّهُ أَحَدٌ ١
اللَّهُ الصَّمَدُ ٢
لَمْ يَلِدْ وَلَمْ يُولَدْ ٣
وَلَمْ يَكُن لَّهُ كُفُوًا أَحَدٌ ٤

[Say: He is God, the One and Only God, the Eternal, Absolute. He begets not, nor is He begotten. And there is none like unto Him.] (Al-Ikhlas112:1-4)

This is said by GOD.

Now lets see what some guy who we think his name is "John" may have written:

John 1:1,14

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.


WHO DO YOU BELIEVE? GOD OR JOHN?

[James Hutchins]

Re: Is Jesus God?

No one will respond until you answer previous questions put to you. There is no need to prove you are an idiot. We already know you are.

[TruePath]

Re: Is Jesus God?

No one will respond until you answer previous questions put to you. There is no need to prove you are an idiot. We already know you are.

If you worship John instead of God then you will have to suffer the consequences.

“Those who has disbelieved – their wealth and their children will never benefit them anything with Allah. And those are the ones who are the fuel of Hellfire.”
[ali'-Imran, 3: 10]
Jinn:
“And there are among us Muslims (in submission to Allah) and others who deviate from justice. And whoever accepts Islam has sought out the right path. As for those who deviate, they will be firewood for the Hellfire.”
[al-Jinn, 72: 14-15]
Stones:
“But if you cannot – and of a surety you cannot – then fear the fire whose fuel is men and stones, which is prepared for those who reject faith.”
[al Baqarah, 2: 24]

[James Hutchins]

Re: Is Jesus God?

You are desperately failing.

You are a man falling down an abyss of ignorance and deafness, tightly grasping the short straw of blindness.

Say hello to the Devil when you reach the magma.

Merry Christmas!

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Is Jesus God?

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
قُلْ هُوَ اللَّهُ أَحَدٌ ١
اللَّهُ الصَّمَدُ ٢
لَمْ يَلِدْ وَلَمْ يُولَدْ ٣
وَلَمْ يَكُن لَّهُ كُفُوًا أَحَدٌ ٤

Is that some sort of shorthand?

[Say: He is God, the One and Only God, the Eternal, Absolute. He begets not, nor is He begotten. And there is none like unto Him.] (Al-Ikhlas112:1-4)

, I'm afraid your profit Allan has got that one wrong; Jesus is clearly God's only begotten son and is, at the same time God. (I think even you can understand that!) Further, there are many like Him (physically) Ge:1:26: And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

This is said by GOD.

No! No! What I wrote was said by God.

Now lets see what some guy who we think his name is "John" may have written:

John 1:1,14

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

WHO DO YOU BELIEVE? GOD OR JOHN?

God. Jesus was with God before the Creation. Read further in John... John 17:5 “And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.”


So we see Jesus is "The Word" - simple.

[TruePath]

Re: Is Jesus God?

But Jesus(pbuh) never said he was God!

He was just a prophet, he was a mighty prophet but a prophet nontheless.

How can be Jesus(pbuh) be God and God's son at the same time? Then who was Jesus(pbuh) mother? It doesnt make sense

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Is Jesus God?

But Jesus(pbuh) never said he was God!

Dear, dear, it's all that shorthand you write - you're not reading American properly, I did give you the verse above, John 17:5 “And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.”

If Jesus was with God before the world was, then He must be God too. We know this because the first man was Adam, so Jeus was not human, he was divine, i.e. God.

He was just a prophet, he was a mighty prophet but a prophet nontheless.

He defeated death and saves everyone who accepts Him, he also killed fig trees and drove devils out of people, and yet, you don't see that He is God? Amazing!

How can be Jesus(pbuh) be God and God's son at the same time?

Think of a gate - a gate, on its own just falls on the floor; it needs posts. A gate without a lock is a flap. Together they are a gate. when I say the word, "Gate" you imagine all these things. God the Father is the aspect of God which does the big things, the world, the Universe, slaughtering unbelievers, God The Son, is more personal and encourages righteousness and The Holy Spirit is the power inside you that raises you from the animals and lets you speak foreign languages.

Then who was Jesus(pbuh) mother? It doesnt make sense

Mary was His mother. But the woman is unimportant, as we say, "You praise the cake and the baker, not the oven."

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Is Jesus God?

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
قُلْ هُوَ اللَّهُ أَحَدٌ ١
اللَّهُ الصَّمَدُ ٢
لَمْ يَلِدْ وَلَمْ يُولَدْ ٣
وَلَمْ يَكُن لَّهُ كُفُوًا أَحَدٌ ٤

[Say: He is God, the One and Only God, the Eternal, Absolute. He begets not, nor is He begotten. And there is none like unto Him.] (Al-Ikhlas112:1-4)

This is a very powerful prayer against Witchcraft. This prayer can shut down witches and satanists forever. Being that this prayer basically shuts down the senders of the hexes and vexes by returning their evil to them sevenfold.

Father,
In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, I plead the precious uncorruptable blood of Jesus over myself and my family and everything that belongs to us. I ask for giant warrior Angels to be loosed from Heaven to surround and protect us. As your war club and weapons of war I break down, undamn, and blow up all walls of protection around all witches, warlocks, wizards, satanists, and the like, and I break the power of all curses, hexes, vexes, spells, charms, fetishes, physic prayers, physic thought, all witchcraft, sorcery, magic, voodoo, all mind control, jinxes, potions, bewitchments, death, destruction, sickness, pain, torment, physic power, physic warfare, prayer chains, and everything else being sent my way or my family members way, and I return it and the demons to the senders right now!, SEVENFOLD, and I BIND it to them by the Blood of Jesus!

Father, I pray that these lost souls will find the light of your son Jesus.. Their own snares and traps have been set against themselves.. In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth I now loose them from all mindcontrol of satan!.. Father I also ask that you Bind the Holy Spirit to there hearts as a guide to your son Jesus.. So they may be set free from the bondages of satan.

In Jesus name I pray..
Amen

[TruePath]

Re: Is Jesus God?

Will somebody please explain to me which part of this you disagree with and why:
[Say: He is God, the One and Only God, the Eternal, Absolute. He begets not, nor is He begotten. And there is none like unto Him.] (Al-Ikhlas112:1-4)

[TruePath]

Re: Is Jesus God?

Dear, dear, it's all that shorthand you write - you're not reading American properly, I did give you the verse above, John 17:5 “And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.”

If Jesus was with God before the world was, then He must be God too. We know this because the first man was Adam, so Jeus was not human, he was divine, i.e. God.

He defeated death and saves everyone who accepts Him, he also killed fig trees and drove devils out of people, and yet, you don't see that He is God? Amazing!

Think of a gate - a gate, on its own just falls on the floor; it needs posts. A gate without a lock is a flap. Together they are a gate. when I say the word, "Gate" you imagine all these things. God the Father is the aspect of God which does the big things, the world, the Universe, slaughtering unbelievers, God The Son, is more personal and encourages righteousness and The Holy Spirit is the power inside you that raises you from the animals and lets you speak foreign languages. Mary was His mother. But the woman is unimportant, as we say, "You praise the cake and the baker, not the oven."

Dear Ezekiel Bathfire, please tell me if God is the father, Jesus(pbuh) is the son and is also somehow God please I ask can you explain this verse to me:

Deuteronomy 18:17-19



17And the LORD said unto me, They have well spoken that which they have spoken. 18I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.


Who is this verse talking about? Is it Jesus(pbuh)? Because it can't be Jesus(pbuh) as you are saying Jesus(pbuh) is God and not a prophet..? Who is it then?

[Brother Enoch]

Re: Is Jesus God?

Why do you spit every time you say Christ's name?

[Jenni111]

Re: Is Jesus God?

what is pbuh?

[Ugly_Kid_Joe]

Re: Is Jesus God?

Did muhammed die for our sins like Jesus or did he blow himself up? Or did he not do anything? Always wondered that, I dont want to read the qu'ran mind poison.

[TruePath]

Re: Is Jesus God?

what is pbuh?

It means Peace Be Upon Him.

It is a mark of respect. We treat Jesus(pbuh) as respectfully as possible because he too is one of Allah's mighty prophets.

I wish Christians could show the same love and respect for The Prophet Muhammad(pbuh).

[Ugly_Kid_Joe]

Re: Is Jesus God?

It means Peace Be Upon Him.

It is a mark of respect. We treat Jesus(pbuh) as respectfully as possible because he too is one of Allah's mighty prophets.

I wish Christians could show the same love and respect for The Prophet Muhammad(pbuh).

Respect?
Wait wait, us True Christians(tm) are being killed by muslims just for being followers of Jesus Christ, our Saviour. That doesnt sound very respectfull to me.