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  • TruePath
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    • Dec 2009
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    #1

    The Trinity..?

    Bismillahirrahmaaanirrahim.

    I would like to ask you all as respectfully as I can, where exactly in the Bible does it ever say the word "Trinity"?

    My search has found 0 answers in all of your different versions of the Bible.

    But the Noble Qu'ran (which only has one uncorrupted version) DOES say Trinity:
    4:171-172"O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: nor say Of Allah ought but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) A Messenger of Allah, And His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and the Spirit proceeding From Him: so believe In Allah and His Messengers. Say not "Trinity": desist: It will be better for you: For Allah is One God: Glory to Him: (Far Exalted is He) above Having a son. To Him (Allah) Belong all things in the heavens And on earth. And enough Is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.
    Christ disdaineth no To serve and worship Allah, Nor do the angels, those Nearest (to Allah): Those who disdain His worship and are arrogant, He will gather them all Together unto Himself (Jesus) to (answer)."
    Surah 4:169 O people of the Book! do not exceed in your religion, nor say against God aught save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, is but the apostle of God ... say not "Trinity." Desist! it will be better for you. God is only one God, far be it for Him that He should beget a Son!
  • Ezekiel Bathfire
    Pastor for Diversity and Tolerance
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    • Jan 2008
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    #2
    Re: The Trinity..?

    The matter is well settled. Imagine the universe (which wasn’t there) before the Creation. In the beginning there was the Word, and the Word was God. God comprised, God The Father, God The Son and God The Holy Spirit. This is rather like saying you comprise True Path the human, True Path the unemployable and True Path the heathen. We do not say that there are 3 True Paths; we know there is but one. (Any more would be too many.)

    So, God appears in the Old Testament as God The Father. This is when mankind was young on the earth and required fatherly guidance, e.g. practical demonstrations of how to deal with false gods and how to deal with women, slaves and children. God next appears in the New Testament as God The Son; this was at a time when Mankind had grown up and required a friend to guide him. Throughout all this, God The Holy Spirit is around, giving people holiness and a spiritual dimension.

    So in summary, all parts of God’s character Created The World, the Universe and Everything. Jesus came and taught us, cleared up a few misunderstandings and allowed Himself to be crucified and died temporarily that we might accept Him and be saved. What a brilliant Plan! Praise!

    Now we await God’s Second Coming so he can slaughter those who did not follow Him and the rest of us can go to Paradise, as is foretold.

    It seems to me that as you do not accept Jesus as God, you have rejected God and are hellbound.
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    • TruePath
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      #3
      Re: The Trinity..?

      But Moses(pbuh) made it clear in the Bible:
      Deauteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD.


      Did God repent and change his mind later when he decided he was more than one?
      Surah 4:169 O people of the Book! do not exceed in your religion, nor say against God aught save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, is but the apostle of God ... say not "Trinity." Desist! it will be better for you. God is only one God, far be it for Him that He should beget a Son!

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      • Pastor Ezekiel
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        • Sep 2006
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        #4
        Re: The Trinity..?

        Originally posted by TruePath View Post
        But Moses(pbuh) made it clear in the Bible:
        Deauteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD.


        Did God repent and change his mind later when he decided he was more than one?
        The three is the one.

        Through Jesus, all things are possible.
        Who Will Jesus Damn?

        Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

        Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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        • TruePath
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          #5
          Re: The Trinity..?

          Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
          The three is the one.

          Through Jesus, all things are possible.
          How can 1 + 1 + 1 = 3?
          Surah 4:169 O people of the Book! do not exceed in your religion, nor say against God aught save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, is but the apostle of God ... say not "Trinity." Desist! it will be better for you. God is only one God, far be it for Him that He should beget a Son!

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          • Ugly_Kid_Joe
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            • Mar 2009
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            #6
            Re: The Trinity..?

            Originally posted by TruePath View Post
            How can 1 + 1 + 1 = 3?
            That sounds kinda obvious... Was that a rhetorical question?

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            • TruePath
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              Re: The Trinity..?

              Originally posted by Ugly_Kid_Joe View Post
              That sounds kinda obvious... Was that a rhetorical question?
              I meant to say 1 + 1 + 1 = 1?

              Thats what the Trinity is. 1, not 3.
              Surah 4:169 O people of the Book! do not exceed in your religion, nor say against God aught save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, is but the apostle of God ... say not "Trinity." Desist! it will be better for you. God is only one God, far be it for Him that He should beget a Son!

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              • Hank
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                • Oct 2009
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                #8
                Re: The Trinity..?

                Originally posted by TruePath View Post
                How can 1 + 1 + 1 = 3?
                How dumb can you get???
                Upon the wicked he shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and an horrible tempest: this shall be the portion of their cup. (Psalm 11:6)

                GOD HATES FAGS
                Romans 1:18-32, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, 1 Timothy 1:8-11, Jude 7, etc
                DEATH PENALTY FOR FAGS

                WHITE AND PROUD

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                • TruePath
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                  #9
                  Re: The Trinity..?

                  Originally posted by Hank View Post
                  How dumb can you get???
                  It was a mistake Hank, I'm sure you've made plenty too.

                  Only Allah has no mistakes.
                  Surah 4:169 O people of the Book! do not exceed in your religion, nor say against God aught save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, is but the apostle of God ... say not "Trinity." Desist! it will be better for you. God is only one God, far be it for Him that He should beget a Son!

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                  • Bryan Tamariki
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                    #10
                    Re: The Trinity..?

                    John 4:9-15.

                    9In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.
                    10Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son [to be] the propitiation for our sins.
                    11Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.
                    12No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.
                    13Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.
                    14And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son [to be] the Saviour of the world.
                    15Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
                    Joshua 24:15
                    And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.

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                    • TruePath
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                      #11
                      Re: The Trinity..?

                      Originally posted by Bryan Tamariki View Post
                      John 4:9-15.

                      9In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.
                      10Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son [to be] the propitiation for our sins.
                      11Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.
                      12No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.
                      13Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.
                      14And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son [to be] the Saviour of the world.
                      15Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
                      Gobooldigook removed

                      There is no God but Allah and Muhammed is His messenger.
                      Surah 4:169 O people of the Book! do not exceed in your religion, nor say against God aught save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, is but the apostle of God ... say not "Trinity." Desist! it will be better for you. God is only one God, far be it for Him that He should beget a Son!

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                      • Bryan Tamariki
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                        #12
                        Re: The Trinity..?

                        There is no God but Allah and Muhammed is His messenger.
                        There is no God but a 'moon' god and a war-making heretic who married children is His messenger?

                        Here's proof that Allah and the God of the Bible are not the same.


                        I prefer to worship God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.
                        Joshua 24:15
                        And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.

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                        • Pastor Rune Enoe
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                          • Sep 2006
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                          #13
                          Re: The Trinity..?

                          Originally posted by TruePath View Post
                          La illahe illallah muhammedun resullullah!

                          There is no God but Allah and Muhammed is His messenger.
                          Then maybe you should tell Allah and Muhammed that Mary is not part of the triune Godhead. No matter what the Quran says:

                          Quran 5:116: And when Allah saith: O Jesus, son of Mary! Didst thou say unto mankind: Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah? he saith: Be glorified! [. . .]
                          A wise man’s heart inclines him to the right, but a fool’s heart to the left. (Ecclesiastes 10:2)

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                          • Larry Lee
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                            • Sep 2006
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                            #14
                            Re: The Trinity..?

                            Originally posted by Prune Danish View Post
                            Then maybe you should tell Allah and Muhammed that Mary is not part of the triune Godhead. No matter what the Quran says:

                            Quran 5:116: And when Allah saith: O Jesus, son of Mary! Didst thou say unto mankind: Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah? he saith: Be glorified! [. . .]
                            Brother Prune, I'm afraid Muhammad fell under the spell of the "infancy Gospels" and didn't spend enough time with the canonical Gospel of John. Muhammad succumbed to Satan's deceptions, which is abundantly clear from his Quranic scribblings. But, what else could we expect from a spawn of Ishmael?
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                            • TruePath
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                              #15
                              Re: The Trinity..?

                              Originally posted by Bryan Tamariki View Post
                              I prefer to worship God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.
                              Even your own Bible says there is only one God, so why do you insist on worshipping three? It is polytheism and God hates that.

                              verily your place is hell.
                              Surah 4:169 O people of the Book! do not exceed in your religion, nor say against God aught save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, is but the apostle of God ... say not "Trinity." Desist! it will be better for you. God is only one God, far be it for Him that He should beget a Son!

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