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  • Jack O'fagan
    With faith as immovable as the Earth
    True Christian™
    • Feb 2011
    • 4836

    #1

    Killing babies takes real devotion to the LORD

    I hear many non believers talk about slaughter in the Bible however they are only concerned about the people getting slaughtered. What about the people swinging the swords? Nobody seems to care about their feelings.

    Christian apologist William Lane Craig has rightly pointed this out HERE.

    So whom does God wrong in commanding the destruction of the Canaanites? Not the Canaanite adults, for they were corrupt and deserving of judgement. Not the children, for they inherit eternal life. So who is wronged? Ironically, I think the most difficult part of this whole debate is the apparent wrong done to the Israeli soldiers themselves. Can you imagine what it would be like to have to break into some house and kill a terrified woman and her children? The brutalizing effect on these Israeli soldiers is disturbing.




    I just wish that more people were like Dr Craig and thought about the feelings of others. Devotion to the LORD is difficult sometimes.

    YIC

    Jack
    Genesis 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.

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  • Redeemed Papist
    Former Mary Hailer who has seen The Light(c)
    True Christian™
    • Jul 2011
    • 10409

    #2
    Re: Killing babies takes real devotion to the LORD

    Mr Craig has a unique way of viewing a situation that always sees right to the heart of the matter. It's always the fault of the unbelieving scum who stand in the way of God's will. They are the ones deserving of destruction so it follows that we need to spend no time at all considering their feelings. As God always calls on true believers to deal with the nitty gritty of carrying out His wishes it makes sense that the people who are going to need consideration are Christ's warriors.

    In this day and age I can relate to that. How many times do we True Christians(tm) have to have the courage to say the unpleasant things society doesn't want to hear? How many times do we need to ignore the prickings of normal, weak human empathy and say to someone else that they are disgusting slime on the sandals of Jesus? We get no thanks.

    The wonderful example of a warrior for God steadfastly smashing a baby's head against the wall until the its brains go splat, then bending down to pick up another one, all the time slip sliding in the mother's blood, will be at the front of of my mind the next time I witness. When the treacherous thought, "Am I about to be an unpleasant bastard?" crosses my mind the poor soldier's shining example will strengthen my resolve.

    Thank you, William Lane Craig. GLORY
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    Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

    John 5:46,47 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

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    • Johny Joe Hold
      Mayor of Freehold
       
      • Feb 2010
      • 12374

      #3
      Re: Killing babies takes real devotion to the LORD

      I wonder if those soldiers are getting adequate training for their task. They really need to buy into the Mission Statement of God and take ownership of what they are required to do.

      It seems to me if they believe strongly they are carrying out a task God needs someone to do, they will get through it. I certainly hope so.
      Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.

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      • Jack O'fagan
        With faith as immovable as the Earth
        True Christian™
        • Feb 2011
        • 4836

        #4
        Re: Killing babies takes real devotion to the LORD

        Originally posted by Johny Joe Hold View Post
        I wonder if those soldiers are getting adequate training for their task. They really need to buy into the Mission Statement of God and take ownership of what they are required to do.

        It seems to me if they believe strongly they are carrying out a task God needs someone to do, they will get through it. I certainly hope so.
        If God told me to kill I like to think that I would be strong enough in my faith to carry out His orders without any hesitation,

        YIC

        Jack
        Genesis 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.

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        • Rev. M. Rodimer
          Honorary True Christian™
          Forum Member
          • May 2008
          • 13996

          #5
          Re: Killing babies takes real devotion to the LORD

          Originally posted by Jack O'fagan View Post
          I hear many non believers talk about slaughter in the Bible however they are only concerned about the people getting slaughtered. What about the people swinging the swords? Nobody seems to care about their feelings.

          Christian apologist William Lane Craig has rightly pointed this out HERE.





          I just wish that more people were like Dr Craig and thought about the feelings of others. Devotion to the LORD is difficult sometimes.

          YIC

          Jack
          Where does William Lane Craig get the idea that the children of God-mocking cultists "rightly inherit eternal life"?

          There's little I hate more than false Christians who make up feel-good lies like this. Does he go on about the non-Biblical "age of accountability", too?
          Bible boring? Nonsense!
          Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
          You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!

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          • Jack O'fagan
            With faith as immovable as the Earth
            True Christian™
            • Feb 2011
            • 4836

            #6
            Re: Killing babies takes real devotion to the LORD

            Originally posted by Rev. M. Rodimer View Post
            Where does William Lane Craig get the idea that the children of God-mocking cultists "rightly inherit eternal life"?

            There's little I hate more than false Christians who make up feel-good lies like this. Does he go on about the non-Biblical "age of accountability", too?
            Craig said this.

            Moreover, if we believe, as I do, that God’s grace is extended to those who die in infancy or as small children, the death of these children was actually their salvation. We are so wedded to an earthly, naturalistic perspective that we forget that those who die are happy to quit this earth for heaven’s incomparable joy. Therefore, God does these children no wrong in taking their lives
            Yes, he just makes that bit up. There is no heaven for the Canaanite babies.

            YIC

            Jack
            Genesis 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.

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            I know God wouldn't let me believe in Him if He didn't exist.

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            • Mary Etheldreda
              Gushing for Jesus
               
              • Sep 2011
              • 23775

              #7
              Re: Killing babies takes real devotion to the LORD

              I have often wept over that passage in the Bible when reading it during my "God time." Those poor soldiers. I mean, surely they didn't feel emotional like I would have, being men of God on a mission for God. Surely they would have had the fortitude to carry out their responsibilities with clarity of mind and purpose, but still, a mother's heart is heavy thinking of the mothers of those soldiers.
              Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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