[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: A rant from an irate Englishman.

Very mature all of you.
Well done.
You seem to have ranted on about the obvious for quite a while now.

Yes, I find it quite frustrating that JarJar Bunkbeds here has been attacking us consistently and without basis or merit.

Perhaps you can talk some sense into him?

[Ahimaaz Smith]

Re: A rant from an irate Englishman.

Very mature all of you.

How typical. You can't win the argument with facts and logic, so you resort to personal attacks.

You seem to have ranted on about the obvious for quite a while now.

The Bible is only obvious if you've read it. Which, it is clear, you haven't, because you show zero ability to discuss scripture outside the slogans that you learned in Sunday school.

This is a racist website and that is wrong but they will never believe that, so have fun living in your little worlds so full of hate.

We despise racism. I don't know how we can make that any clearer. God set down his laws, and we believe that it is unconscionable to treat someone as an inferior based on race even to the slightest degree, except to the extent that the Bible mandates otherwise.

We're not the bigots here, you are. You are anti-Christian, anti-Bible, and anti-God.

[Don the Baptist]

Re: A rant from an irate Englishman.

I study amongst a fantastic mix of cultures; Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs, Buddists, and Jews (among others). However, the verbal trash that you people are capable of creating is certbainly not "gentle". Your attacks are completely disgusting. In your eyes, life seems to be about attacking other cultures and creeds; along with displaying uneducated, predjudice ramblings.

Ahhh, there's your problem you toothless, drunk cousin banging limey. You're spending time with those that Jesus hates. You must know that Jesus absolutely hates a good portion of the world (and all of Europe). Jesus died (temporarily) for the True Believers®, not all of your above mentioned riffraff and castoffs...

[Bro Izzy]

Re: A rant from an irate Englishman.

There are a few true Christian English men on here, who try very hard to convince our American friends that we aren't all Guardian reading, Europe loving wimps with bad teeth. Then along comes some embarrassment to the English nation like you.
Are you a southerner ?

[JubJub Joe]

Re: A rant from an irate Englishman.

How could you tell?

Was it the fact that us Londoners are able to mix with people who don't believe in the exact same principles as us.

Sorry that's insulting to most people from up North... the majority are a great bunch.

It's fairly clear that you people are living in your own dream world.

If you think America is a parallel to heaven (which is what you people seem to be making out) you're all sorely mistaken. To even think America is superior to other countries... good job with the recession... and your fantastic healthcare.

In fact, if you look at the number of prisoners per 100 000 of the population America has the highest rate in the world (around 750).

Ergo, America is the country filled with the 'worst' people. The EU has an average of 150>.

Sorry... did I just use too many facts?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: A rant from an irate Englishman.

How could you tell?

Was it the fact that us Londoners are able to mix with people who don't believe in the exact same principles as us.

Sorry that's insulting to most people from up North... the majority are a great bunch.

It's fairly clear that you people are living in your own dream world.

If you think America is a parallel to heaven (which is what you people seem to be making out) you're all sorely mistaken. To even think America is superior to other countries... good job with the recession... and your fantastic healthcare.

In fact, if you look at the number of prisoners per 100 000 of the population America has the highest rate in the world (around 750).

Ergo, America is the country filled with the 'worst' people. The EU has an average of 150>.

Sorry... did I just use too many facts?

Who needs "facts" when we have Jesus? Your so-called "facts" change all the time, God never changes.

No one ever claimed that 100% of Americans are True Christians™. Thanks to radical liberals, we have far too many queers, joos and toothless foreigners like you infesting our fruited plains. Personally I thank God for our prisons. If it wasn't for them, communists like you would be roaming our streets freely.

Why are you here anyway? To convert us all to turn british?

[JubJub Joe]

Re: A rant from an irate Englishman.

Why are you here anyway? To convert us all to turn british?

Of course not.

I wouldn't want people like you anywhere near me. Please don't ever come to UK. Your stereotypes are actually quite funny and I wouldn't want them proved wrong.

Don't call me a communist either. Politically I'd align myself right of centre. Communism is a very extreme leftist vision. However, it certainly isn't liberal. Fortunately I'm not a far-right idiot with the idea that America is better than every other country.

Who needs "facts" when we have Jesus? Your so-called "facts" change all the time, God never changes.

Perhaps not, but time usually necessitates change. Hence the progression of some religions (Reform/Progressive Judaism for example).

I think you'll also find that the Bible is full of contradictions and inconsistancies.

I'll lay out an easy one:
In the (Adam and Eve) creation story when Eve is created from Man, the wording goes on to mention her navel... a belly button. Now think... a belly button doesn't, and can't exist without an umbilical cord. The creation of Eve involves no such thing. Hmm... a little inconsistant that... and the fact there's ANOTHER creation story.

[Fuzzy Nads (Quarantined)]

Re: A rant from an irate Englishman.

I wouldn't want people like you anywhere near me. Please don't ever come to UK. Your stereotypes are actually quite funny and I wouldn't want them proved wrong.

I have to travel to London in a few weeks. Can you suggest a good American to English dictionary? Also, is there a digital voice changer I can purchase that will convert your gibberish into American? I can't afford to waste time deciphering your vernacular and I don't want to spend money hiring a translator again.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: A rant from an irate Englishman.

I think you'll also find that the Bible is full of contradictions and inconsistancies.

I'll lay out an easy one:
In the (Adam and Eve) creation story when Eve is created from Man, the wording goes on to mention her navel... a belly button. Now think... a belly button doesn't, and can't exist without an umbilical cord. The creation of Eve involves no such thing. Hmm... a little inconsistant that... and the fact there's ANOTHER creation story.

I don't see the inconstancy here. Adam has a belly button since Adam was created in God's image so why wouldn't Eve have one?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: A rant from an irate Englishman.

Perhaps not, but time usually necessitates change. Hence the progression of some religions (Reform/Progressive Judaism for example).

I think you'll also find that the Bible is full of contradictions and inconsistancies.

I'll lay out an easy one:
In the (Adam and Eve) creation story when Eve is created from Man, the wording goes on to mention her navel... a belly button. Now think... a belly button doesn't, and can't exist without an umbilical cord. The creation of Eve involves no such thing. Hmm... a little inconsistant that... and the fact there's ANOTHER creation story.

The Bible is not inconsistent at all. You just have scales on your eyes and can't see that through Jesus, ALL things are possible.

Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

You're a fool. That's a problem.

[Deaner]

Re: A rant from an irate Englishman.

Hence the progression of some religions (Reform/Progressive Judaism for example).

What's a progressive joo; you'd kill Christ by lethal injection?

[JubJub Joe]

Re: A rant from an irate Englishman.

I have to travel to London in a few weeks. Can you suggest a good American to English dictionary? Also, is there a digital voice changer I can purchase that will convert your gibberish into American? I can't afford to waste time deciphering your vernacular and I don't want to spend money hiring a translator again.

I went to America a few years ago. Fortunately I didn't meet anyone like you.
[satanic link deleted]

Besides, I think you'll find English is our language... originating from England. The connection might be difficult for some of you to grasp...

America is also very original with its names. New England... very clever... New York... ooh...

You know, almost every city in America is named after somewhere in England. That's because our country has history...

And some culture...

It seems to me that the doctrine adopted by the USA seems to be 'Bigger is better'. Erm... no...

[Fuzzy Nads (Quarantined)]

Re: A rant from an irate Englishman.

I went to America a few years ago. Fortunately I didn't meet anyone like you.

Hello JubJub (I ask you to recall what else I'm thinking when I refer to you by your name) you are not very friendly. I ask you for advice and this is the way you respond? You must be one of those soccer hooligans I see on TV.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language

Besides, I think you'll find English is our language... originating from England. The connection might be difficult for some of you to grasp...

Every time I correct an entry in Wikipedia, some fool changes it back so I can't take anything on that Website seriously.

The fact is that the English language evolved in North America. However, we don't take credit for the way you Brits have mangled it. That's why most of us have come to realize that our language is called American (short for North American... we don't want to offend the South by leaving them out) instead of English.

America is also very original with its names. New England... very clever... New York... ooh...

You know, almost every city in America is named after somewhere in England. That's because our country has history...

And some culture...

It seems to me that the doctrine adopted by the USA seems to be 'Bigger is better'. Erm... no...

haha, yes we like to laugh at them too. See, we have a lot in common so how about answering my question properly instead of acting like such a boorish lout?

[JubJub Joe]

Re: A rant from an irate Englishman.

What's a progressive joo; you'd kill Christ by lethal injection?

In the sciences, Jews have won 22 percent of all the Nobel Prizes ever awarded - 29 percent of the prizes since 1950, after the Holocaust destroyed a third of their numbers. Given their small population, Jews should have earned only one of the 502 Nobels awarded for physics, chemistry, medicine and physiology. They have won 123.
The Fields Medal, awarded to the world's brightest mathematicians under age 40, is the honor John Nash, of the book and movie A Beautiful Mind had hoped to win. Instead, he took a Nobel Prize in economics as a consolation prize. One-fourth of the Fields Medals winners are Jews.
Encyclopedia Britannica provides its list of "Great Inventions." Of the 267 individual inventors, more than 13 were Jews, including Zoll (the defibrillator and the pacemaker), Land (instant photography), Gabor (holography), and Ginsburg (videotape). Jews are represented on the list 22 times more than one would expect based on their population.
They are disproportionately counted in most of the arts. Since their respective dates of inception, America's leading symphony orchestras have been led by Jewish conductors one-third of the time. They have created nearly two-thirds of Broadway's longest running musicals. Probably one-fourth of the greatest photographers of all time have been Jews, as have 10 percent of the world's great master architects. Of movie directors who earned Oscars, 38 percent were Jews. In broad artistic recognition, nearly 30 percent of the Kennedy Center honors and 13 percent of the Grammy Lifetime Achievement Awards have gone to them.
As "People of the Book," the sobriquet Mohammed used to describe them, it is perhaps not surprising Jews have earned 11 percent of the Nobel prizes for literature and 20 percent of the Pulitzer Prizes for nonfiction. Their outpouring of books, screenplays, and newspaper and magazine articles is prodigious.
In education, it is difficult to name an academic discipline in which they have not played a leading role. Certainly Jews have been seminal thinkers in philosophy (Spinoza, Maimonides, Marx), deconstruction (Derrida), economics (Marx, Ricardo, Friedman, Samuelson, Becker, Kuznets), physics (Einstein, Bohr, Gell-Mann, Feynman, Szilard), mathematics (Von Neumann, Mandelbrot, Fefferman, Zelmanov, Erdos), chemistry (Heeger, Kohn, Kroto, Olah), linguistics (Chomsky), paleontology (Gould), medicine (Flexner, Chain, Goldstein and Brown, Salk, Sabin, Prusiner), law (Brandeis, Cardozo, Frankfurter, Tribe, Dershowitz), anthropology (Boas), psychiatry and psychology (Freud, Adler, Erikson, Fromm, Rapaport, Maslow), sociology (McClelland, Riesman, Glazer, Lipset), and many other fields. Their research and teaching helped shape entire disciplines. They head three of the eight Ivy League schools (down from four several years ago), and Jewish students are 21 percent of all Ivy League students. Any review of the lists of faculty of most schools will evidence a disproportionate number of Jewish teachers. They are, for example, roughly 30 percent of the faculty of the Harvard, Stanford, and Yale law schools.
In politics, they are 11 percent of the United States Senate and 6 percent of the House of Representatives. They were 42 percent of the 100 largest political donors to the 2000 election cycle, and since 1917, when Judge Louis Brandeis was appointed, 17 percent of Supreme Court justices have been Jews. They now hold two of the nine positions.
As economists they are gifted. They have earned 38 percent of all Nobel Prizes for economics and 67 percent of the John Clarke Bates Medals for promising economists under age 40. They were instrumental in the creation of the Federal Reserve System and have headed it for twenty-five of the last thirty-five years.
In philanthropy, a December 2004 Business Week listing of America's fifty most generous benefactors included at least nineteen Jewish families and individuals. Their charitable donations totaled nearly $10 billion over less than five years. More than 90 percent of their donations went to secular causes in support of education, health care and medicine, arts, culture, and the humanities. It is remarkable that 38 percent of America's most philanthropic people come from a group representing only 2 percent of its population.
Much of the wealth behind that philanthropy came from success as entrepreneurs. In that role, Jews created whole new industries and hold leading positions in many other companies. Increasingly, they also occupy the corner office as CEOs of some of America's largest and most important companies. Of the 2003 CEOs of Fortune's 100 largest companies, 10 to 15 percent are Jews. Of Fortune's 2003 list of the twenty-five most powerful people in business, six (24 percent) are Jews. Of the thirty entrepreneurs included in the 2004 Fortune "America's 40 Richest Under 40," at five of the top ten are Jewish as are 23 percent of the Forbes 400.
Jews pioneered the ready-to-wear garment industry and, in 1885, owned all but seven of New York's 241 garment factories. Names like Levi Straus, Ralph Lauren, Calvin Klein, and Donna Karan are just a few contemporary representatives of that legacy. Of the four pioneers of prestige cosmetics - Helena Rubenstein, Elizabeth Arden, Est'e Lauder, and Charles Revson - only Elizabeth Arden was not Jewish. More than half of America's department stores were started or run by Jews including such greats as Macy's, Federated, May Company, Bloomingdale's, Filene's, Saks, Abraham & Straus, Neiman Marcus, Bergdorf Goodman, Sears, and, in London, Marks & Spencer.
In specialty retailing, major chains such as Gap Stores, Limited, Mervyn's, Barneys, Men's Warehouse, Home Depot, Ritz Camera, Bed Bath & Beyond are just a few of the Jewish creations. In television retailing, both QVC and Home Shopping were largely shaped by Jews. The world's foremost demonstration salesman, Ron Popeil, uses television to sell products he invented. In diamonds, De Beers and the Lev Leviev Group are the dominant forces in the worldwide diamond trade, while Zales, Helzbergs, Whitehall, and Friedman's are among the leading diamond and jewelry retailers.
We drink our Starbucks coffee and have sipped Seagrams wines and distilled spirits. The Dove Bar, H'agen-Dazs, Ben & Jerry's and Baskin-Robbins ice cream lead to our later signing up for Weight Watchers, Jenny Craig, and Nutri-System programs or buying Slim-Fast in the supermarket. All these companies were founded by Jewish entrepreneurs.
We may lounge in our Fairmont, Loews, Hyatt, Helmsley or Wynn hotel, or cruise on any of the seventy-three ships of Carnival or twenty-eight of Royal Caribbean. These companies were founded or largely shaped by Jews.
Every major Hollywood studio except United Artists was created by Jews, as were NBC and CBS. Of the three original television networks, only ABC was not started by a Jew, but Leonard Goldenson bought it seven years after its founding and ran it for forty-five years. Viacom and Comcast were largely created by two Jewish families, while Steve Ross and Gerald Levin played critical roles at Time Warner.
In publishing, America's newspaper of record is The New York Times, and in the nation's capital, Katherine Meyer Graham's son, Donald, now runs The Washington Post. The Pulitzer Prize is the legacy of the family that still runs the St. Louis Post Dispatch and Arizona Daily Star. Reuters, Newhouse, Triangle and Ziff Davis are just a few of our leading magazine publishers. Random House, Alfred A. Knopf, Simon & Schuster, and Farrar, Straus and Giroux are but four of the major book publishers created and run by Jews. In finance, the story is much the same. Premier names like Goldman Sachs, Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns, Salomon Brothers, Lazard Freres, and Wasserstein Perella are just a few of the contemporary names of a legacy dating back to the Rothschilds, Warburgs, Kuhn-Loebs, and Seligmans. In private equity, names like Kohlberg Kravis Roberts, Thomas H. Lee Partners, Blackstone Group, Hellman & Friedman, Quantum Fund, Steinhardt Partners, Claxton, Arthur Rock, Alan Patricof, Gene Kleiner, and Ben Rosen are today's legends taking the place of Bernard Baruch and Henry Morgenthau Jr. Of the twenty-six individuals named to the Private Equity Hall of Fame, at least eight (31 percent), and perhaps as many as eleven, are Jewish.
Jews were generally not allowed to own real estate outside the ghetto for the better part of 1,800 years. They have compensated by becoming a major force in development and management of property all over the world. Of the five largest Real Estate Investment Trusts listed by Forbes magazine in May 2002, four were headed by Jews.
Today, Michael Bloomberg is New York's mayor, but earlier, he created Bloomberg LP, the enterprise that gave him the wherewithal to take on a second career. It is the largest financial information company in the world.
Few people know that the shell of Shell Oil traces back to a London curio shop where the Samuels family featured seashells before two sons started trading kerosene. Nor would they know that the Amoco part of BP Amoco was the creation of the father and son team of Louis and Jacob Blaustein, who also invented the railroad tank car. Amerada Hess, Aurora Oil, Marvin Davis, Occidental Petroleum, and Kaiser-Francis are just a few more of the petroleum businesses started or principally shaped by Jews.
America's great legacy of the Guggenheim Museums and Smithsonian's Hirschorn Museum and Sculpture Garden have their origins in the success of two great mining operations established by Jewish families.
In business services, Manpower is the world's largest temporary staffing company, just as ADP is the largest payroll processing company and H & R Block is the largest preparer of tax returns. All were started by Jews.
And lest anyone think Jews are not on the leading end of new technology, Jews:

• Created the world's largest and most valuable computer company (Dell, Michael Dell).
• Co-founded the world's most successful search engine (Google, Sergey Brin).
• Head the world's largest software company (Microsoft, Steve Ballmer)
• Co-founded and head the world's second largest software company (Oracle, Lawrence Ellison).
• Co-founded, led and serve as chairman of the world's dominant microprocessor and memory chip company (Intel, Andrew Grove).
• Served as CEO or COO at three of the world's four most valuable Internet companies (Yahoo, Terry Semel; eBay, Jeff Skoll; and IAC, Barry Diller).
• Co-founded and head the communications protocol/chip company whose chips are in most U.S. cell phones and are slated to be utilized in the next generation of cell phones to be used worldwide (Qualcomm, Irwin Jacobs).

And this does not consider Jews vital role as labor leaders and advocates for the poor and the oppressed. While Jews were busy creating the garment industry, their fellow Jews, Bessie Abramowitz, Sidney Hillman, David Dubinsky, and others, were organizing that industry's labor force. In that same era, Samuel Gompers headed organized labor for much of the early twentieth century. Later, Saul Alinsky, Abbie Hoffman, Jerry Rubin, Betty Friedan, and Gloria Steinem were just a few of the Jews devoted to social change.
While there are not many prominent Jewish athletes in today's professional sports, most would be surprised to know they are two of the ten top NBA coaches of all time. Five of the 216 members in the NFL Hall of Fame are Jewish, and Jews own 25 percent of the NFL football teams and 28 percent of the NBA teams. Meanwhile, Jews serve as commissioners of all five major professional sports: baseball, football, basketball, hockey, and soccer. And, where the games have more to do with brains than brawn, Jews have held the world chess championship title for roughly two-thirds of the time since it began in 1834, and in bridge, the legend of the game, Charles Goren, was Jewish.
Charles Murray's book, Human Accomplishment, looks at those who achieved excellence in the arts and sciences from 800 BC to 1950. He devotes part of that book to what he calls the "astounding" disproportionate representation of Jews among history's great figures. Following "the Jewish Emancipation" (which he dates from 1790 to 1870), he measures the representation of Jews among the 1,277 great historical figures between 1870 and 1950. Based on their percentage of the population, he says 28 should have been Jews. "The actual number was at least 158." His observation is corroborated in other listings of "history's greats." Michael Hart's book, The 100 ' A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History, counts eight Jews among the 100 (Jesus, St. Paul, Einstein, Marx, Moses, Freud, Pincus, and Bohr). This is 35 times what one would expect.

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Actually, I think you'll find that the world's Jewish population has much more to offer than you. You seem to hate Jews and yet you live in a country (the country that most of you hold higher than any other) that is governed by them.

Silly boys...

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: A rant from an irate Englishman.

You know, almost every city in America is named after somewhere in England. That's because our country has history...

You mean like Des Moines, Chicago, Los Angels and New Orleans? Do tell me were those cites are in England JubJub.