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  • Re: Can furries go to Heaven?

    Thank you to the contributors in this thread. The question of furries in Heaven is now settled. Furries cannot go to Heaven under any circumstance and are an affront to The Creator of the universe. It doesn't even matter how many universes there are or if you have doppelgängers in all of then who are not furries: put on the fursuit, prance awkwardly hoping a mauve penguin will turn up in the carpark or glide sylphlike across the emerald ballroom in cerise zebra, it's all the same to God and Scripture has been cited. That is called evidence.

    We've covered whether. these freaks make it to Paradise; all that remains is why not?


    1. Excessive bling is a sin

      • The Bible addresses adornment as follows:
        • I Peter 3 look up
          3a let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair
          3b and of wearing of gold



    2. This includes fursuits




    3. That is what God does not want

      • what ornament is appropriate as described by God?
        • I Peter 3 look up
          4a But let it be the hidden man of the heart
          4c even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit
          4d which is in the sight of God of great price



    One aspect of bling is the cost. Obviously your iridium grille with the calibre cut rubies was not cheap and even though the two materials complement one another quite nicely God has something else in mind when He describes what in His sight is of great price. Costumes are similarly at a premium. I enjoy sewing and keep up with the new fabrics and pigments; how they react in different lights, whether they're suitable for daylight or evening or under stage lighting for costumes all needs to be factored in. What I do is made to measure which for costumes just means fitted and pinned on the spot without a pattern and it takes some time. Fursuits need to be professionally done at a good hourly rate but God is explicit: no fursuit can ever be the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit which is, in His sight, of value.

    Do I need to mention that the grille probably matches your zebra suit? Or how the addition of luminous embroidery draws even more eyes in the emerald ballroom? God's standard opposes such idiocy in it's own right. The Bible says so and God is watching every second everything you do.

    Now that this has been settled, perhaps someone could address those activities requiring such ludicrous apparel which will like any heathen enterprise most likely focus on the lower part of the body.
    Isaiah 55:8-9 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

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    • Re: Can furries go to Heaven?

      Originally posted by Didymus Much View Post
      What?

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      • Re: Can furries go to Heaven?

        Originally posted by MitzaLizalor View Post
        Thank you to the contributors in this thread. The question of furries in Heaven is now settled. Furries cannot go to Heaven under any circumstance and are an affront to The Creator of the universe. It doesn't even matter how many universes there are or if you have doppelgängers in all of then who are not furries: put on the fursuit, prance awkwardly hoping a mauve penguin will turn up in the carpark or glide sylphlike across the emerald ballroom in cerise zebra, it's all the same to God and Scripture has been cited. That is called evidence.

        We've covered whether. these freaks make it to Paradise; all that remains is why not?


        1. Excessive bling is a sin

          • The Bible addresses adornment as follows:
            • I Peter 3 look up
              3a let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair
              3b and of wearing of gold



        2. This includes fursuits




        3. That is what God does not want

          • what ornament is appropriate as described by God?
            • I Peter 3 look up
              4a But let it be the hidden man of the heart
              4c even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit
              4d which is in the sight of God of great price



        One aspect of bling is the cost. Obviously your iridium grille with the calibre cut rubies was not cheap and even though the two materials complement one another quite nicely God has something else in mind when He describes what in His sight is of great price. Costumes are similarly at a premium. I enjoy sewing and keep up with the new fabrics and pigments; how they react in different lights, whether they're suitable for daylight or evening or under stage lighting for costumes all needs to be factored in. What I do is made to measure which for costumes just means fitted and pinned on the spot without a pattern and it takes some time. Fursuits need to be professionally done at a good hourly rate but God is explicit: no fursuit can ever be the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit which is, in His sight, of value.

        Do I need to mention that the grille probably matches your zebra suit? Or how the addition of luminous embroidery draws even more eyes in the emerald ballroom? God's standard opposes such idiocy in it's own right. The Bible says so and God is watching every second everything you do.

        Now that this has been settled, perhaps someone could address those activities requiring such ludicrous apparel which will like any heathen enterprise most likely focus on the lower part of the body.
        Isaiah 55:8-9 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
        If excessive bling is sin then I probably have sinned loads of times do to wearing a bit to much jewelry at one point so...

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        • Re: Can furries go to Heaven?

          Originally posted by OneFailure View Post
          What?
          Henway.

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          • Re: Can furries go to Heaven?

            Originally posted by Didymus Much View Post
            Yeah, Didymus, I totally see your point now.


            Originally posted by OneFailure View Post
            If excessive bling is sin then I probably have sinned loads of times do to wearing a bit to much jewelry at one point so...
            Yup. The good news is that you can still REPENT for your sins and be SAVED despite your past transgressions!
            God created fossils to test our faith.

            * * *

            My favorite LBC sermons:
            True Christians are Perfect!
            True Christian™ Love.
            Salvation™ made Easy!
            You can’t be a Christian if you don’t believe the Old Testament.
            Jesus is impolite. Deal with it.
            Jesus is xenophobic and so should we.
            Sanctity of Life is NOT a Biblical Concept.
            Biblical view on modern-day slavery.
            The Immorality of the "Universal Declaration of Human Rights."
            Geneva Conventions vs. The Holy Bible.
            God HATES Rational Thinking!
            True Christian™ Man as a spitting image of God.

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            • Re: Can furries go to Heaven?

              Originally posted by OneFailure View Post
              If excessive bling is sin then I probably have sinned loads of times do to wearing a bit to much jewelry at one point so...
              No: your next post was where you cited your source material explaining about fursuits and yiffing not being sinful.

              Evidence explaining why my understanding of The Bible is wrong.

              The Bible presents the most important message for humanity without which Salvation is impossible. Hell, eternally, is the only alternative. So if I'm wrong I need to know. Do you actually want us all to be tortured forever?

              Please try to stay on topic.

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              • Re: Can furries go to Heaven?

                Originally posted by Basilissa View Post
                Yeah, Didymus, I totally see your point now.


                Yup. The good news is that you can still REPENT for your sins and be SAVED despite your past transgressions!
                I have repented for that stuff

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                • Re: Can furries go to Heaven?

                  It's great to see you've accepted that Biblical standards on bling and fur compulsions actually do exist. The next step is to accept Jesus as your personal Lord and Saviour. It is also important to cease all association with furries and corrupt bling merchants:
                  II Peter 2:18b-20
                  They allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error. While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage. For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.

                  Satan is alive in them, eager to reverse your escape from error.

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                  • Re: Can furries go to Heaven?

                    Originally posted by MitzaLizalor View Post
                    It's great to see you've accepted that Biblical standards on bling and fur compulsions actually do exist. The next step is to accept Jesus as your personal Lord and Saviour. It is also important to cease all association with furries and corrupt bling merchants:
                    II Peter 2:18b-20
                    They allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error. While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage. For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.

                    Satan is alive in them, eager to reverse your escape from error.
                    Furries are not bad. How many times do I have to keep saying this

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                    • Re: Can furries go to Heaven?

                      Originally posted by OneFailure View Post
                      Furries are not bad. How many times do I have to keep saying this
                      You see, it doesn't really matter what you think and what you say. You can keep repeating yourself over and over and over again and it won't make a difference. Here at Landover Baptist, we don't care about your opinions, we only care about God's opinions. And these have been stated several times, including Sister Mitza's eloquent posts most recently.
                      God created fossils to test our faith.

                      * * *

                      My favorite LBC sermons:
                      True Christians are Perfect!
                      True Christian™ Love.
                      Salvation™ made Easy!
                      You can’t be a Christian if you don’t believe the Old Testament.
                      Jesus is impolite. Deal with it.
                      Jesus is xenophobic and so should we.
                      Sanctity of Life is NOT a Biblical Concept.
                      Biblical view on modern-day slavery.
                      The Immorality of the "Universal Declaration of Human Rights."
                      Geneva Conventions vs. The Holy Bible.
                      God HATES Rational Thinking!
                      True Christian™ Man as a spitting image of God.

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                      • Re: Can furries go to Heaven?

                        Originally posted by OneFailure View Post
                        I have repented for that stuff
                        We've read your posts about otherkin identity even to the extent of blitzing oneself with so much adornment, either gemstones or furs, that one's actual organism is indiscernible? Then heading off for the moshpit so adorned expecting an unexpected surprise? Or if there are such places as yiffcaves, going there and swinging I am a bat ee! ee! ee! ee! one such freak is even suing an employer because customers won't grunt and squeak appropriately

                        The Bible leaves no room for interpretation, where adornment covers the whole body; when you claimed to have repented for that stuff we naturally assumed that stuff meant what we'd been addressing in the thread. There are no degrees of evil: either something is evil or it is not. We thought you'd escaped the pollutions of the world but then you go:

                        Originally posted by OneFailure View Post
                        Furries are not bad. How many times do I have to keep saying this
                        ..when it's been explained just how bad the furry really is. Scripture has been posted. So now you need to address two points.

                        FIRSTLY what "stuff" have you repented for?
                        SECONDLY what your sources are to explain how my understanding of The Bible and therefore my understanding of Salvation has gone awry?

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                        • Re: Can furries go to Heaven?

                          First off I'm going to say that I am a furry but I am also a Christian and I regularly attend church. I have seen comments on here such as someone claiming God hates furries but God does not hate anyone he loves everyone. I love God and Jesus with all my heart and this fandom does not change that for me and it is not like how people here have said it, furries are animal lovers to put it simply now some of us are sinners but yet again everyone sins. I see no point to demonize furries we do not hate God and I understand that someone will say something in reply to this about how I'm wrong and how I should abandon the furry fandom and let Jesus in my life but he already is and I know I am loved for God and Jesus love all people including sinners. I only hope that the people here stop hating us we are not bad people and God does not hate us. I do not hate anyone here for hating furries I am perfectly fine with people not liking the fandom people can have there own opinions I just want to say this because I saw a comment on here saying God hates furries when God does not hate anyone he loves us all.

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                          • Re: Can furries go to Heaven?

                            Also let me clear this up I do not believe I am an aanimal trapped in a humans body I simply like animals like dogs, cats, wolves, etc. I even have a dog that I care about and by animal lovers I mean we care about animals not that we love them in such a waytas to do sexual things with them and not all furries have fursuits and rarely is there a person that uses them for sexual activities and I do not like that part of the fandom nor do I take part in sexual activities relating to animals or the fandom and I do not own a fursuit and before anyone calls me a false Christian I am not I do not I dont hate God I love him and see him as the one true God and I see Jesus as our saviour and I worship them both and I am always trying to better myself as a person and a follower of God

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                            • Re: Can furries go to Heaven?

                              Originally posted by Icareye View Post
                              First off I'm going to say that I am a furry but I am also a Christian and I regularly attend church. I have seen comments on here such as someone claiming God hates furries but God does not hate anyone he loves everyone. I love God and Jesus with all my heart and this fandom does not change that for me and it is not like how people here have said it, furries are animal lovers to put it simply now some of us are sinners but yet again everyone sins. I see no point to demonize furries we do not hate God and I understand that someone will say something in reply to this about how I'm wrong and how I should abandon the furry fandom and let Jesus in my life but he already is and I know I am loved for God and Jesus love all people including sinners. I only hope that the people here stop hating us we are not bad people and God does not hate us. I do not hate anyone here for hating furries I am perfectly fine with people not liking the fandom people can have there own opinions I just want to say this because I saw a comment on here saying God hates furries when God does not hate anyone he loves us all.
                              Originally posted by Icareye View Post
                              Also let me clear this up I do not believe I am an aanimal trapped in a humans body I simply like animals like dogs, cats, wolves, etc. I even have a dog that I care about and by animal lovers I mean we care about animals not that we love them in such a waytas to do sexual things with them and not all furries have fursuits and rarely is there a person that uses them for sexual activities and I do not like that part of the fandom nor do I take part in sexual activities relating to animals or the fandom and I do not own a fursuit and before anyone calls me a false Christian I am not I do not I dont hate God I love him and see him as the one true God and I see Jesus as our saviour and I worship them both and I am always trying to better myself as a person and a follower of God
                              TL;DR mainly because there are no periods in this! Or punctuation at all! My goodness, are all furries this retarded?
                              Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?
                              1 Corinthians 11:13

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                              • Re: Can furries go to Heaven?

                                Originally posted by Icareye View Post
                                First off I'm going to say that I am a furry but I am also a Christian and I regularly attend church. I have seen comments on here such as someone claiming God hates furries but God does not hate anyone he loves everyone. I love God and Jesus with all my heart and this fandom does not change that for me and it is not like how people here have said it, furries are animal lovers to put it simply now some of us are sinners but yet again everyone sins. I see no point to demonize furries we do not hate God and I understand that someone will say something in reply to this about how I'm wrong and how I should abandon the furry fandom and let Jesus in my life but he already is and I know I am loved for God and Jesus love all people including sinners. I only hope that the people here stop hating us we are not bad people and God does not hate us. I do not hate anyone here for hating furries I am perfectly fine with people not liking the fandom people can have there own opinions I just want to say this because I saw a comment on here saying God hates furries when God does not hate anyone he loves us all.
                                An absolute statement like that requires only a single example to be refuted. Here's three:



                                .1.
                                Psalm 5:4-6 Thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee. The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity. Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.



                                .2.
                                Proverbs 6:16-19 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, an heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, a false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
                                In case you think these are things rather than persons I'll list all seven, highlighting persons in blue
                                . .[1] A proud look
                                . .[2] A lying tongue
                                . .[3] Hands that shed innocent blood
                                . .[4] Heart that deviseth wicked imaginations
                                . .[5] Feet that be swift in running to mischief
                                . .[6] a false witness that speaketh lies
                                . .[7] He that soweth discord among brethren
                                and I should point out that tongues, hands, hearts and feet cannot be divorced from the whole person (of whom they are constituent parts)
                                I Corinthians 12:14-19



                                .3.
                                Hosea 9:15 All their wickedness is in Gilgal: for there
                                God speaking Hosea 1:1
                                I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine house, I will love them no more: all their princes are revolters.



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