First of all, I can not believe all the hate that is brought up in this Christian forum! (1 John 4:8) He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is Love. (1 John 4:11) Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.
Now I will admit that I am a sinner, and have done much wrong in my life, but through the Grace and Mercy of Christ I know that I am forgiven. To receive this awesome Gift, we are told to Love God and Christ (for they are one) and to love thy neighbor as thyself.
So here is my dilemma! I do love Christ, and I strive to love everyone (which is harder than it sounds!!), but I also smoke weed. I have been battling with what constitutes a sin, and I would really like an educated answer please! Is marijuana a gift? Or is it a sin?
(Genesis 9:3) And God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit. You shall have them for food.
(Matthew 15:11) It is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person.”
My understanding is that Marijuana is a seed being fruit, which God has given us. There are several warnings to be of a sober mind, but also many that tell us we may drink and partake in such gifts as herbs and wine. So I believe that it is telling us we can use it, but don't over use it. As with wine, the more you smoke the higher you get. So if you smoke enough to be of an enlightened mind, but don't abuse it, then there is nothing wrong with it. Also, it depends on how you use it. If you smoke weed to get high and lose control, you are abusing the gift, but if you use it in moderation to meditate and think about God, than it is actually a very useful tool. When I smoke, I can not help but to seek God with a humble heart.
My advice to those asking, I don't believe marijuana use in itself is a sin. Your actions while medicated are still up for debate however! If smoking helps you profess your Love for both God and your neighbors, than I honestly do not see a problem with it! If you curse and sin while high, then repent! It is not a double sin though. Christ tells us that even looking at a person with lust is adultery, and that having anger is equivalent to murder. I think his message is to have a pure mind filled with Love! That is all. So toke and Love! Or don't toke and Love! As long as Love is the result!!!
Psalm 139:19 Surely thou wilt slay the wicked, O God: depart from me therefore, ye bloody men.
20 For they speak against thee wickedly, and thine enemies take thy name in vain.
21 Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?
22 I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.
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My understanding is that Marijuana is a seed being fruit, which God has given us.[...]
I did not bother to read the rest of your post because it is based on a false assumption: That the marijuana you smoke bears seed/fruit or even is a seed/fruit. The stuff you smoke is female flowers, deliberately not fertilized and not producing seeds as you can´t use it to roll your blunts if they did. And I am sure not producing offspring is a sin too but don´t quote me on that.
By the way, welcome to the forum. You might want to introduce yourself in the introduction forum. I am sure the people here are interested to know how you reconcile your use of marijuana with your Christianity.
Jeremiah 6:21 Therefore thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will lay stumblingblocks before this people, and the fathers and the sons together shall fall upon them; the neighbour and his friend shall perish.
I always teach the children that if they are lazy, they will burn in Hell. And then I start beating them on their bare bottoms with a rod until they scream harder than a fire alarm. If you are asked twice to show how much you love Jesus, you do it twice. If you are asked a thousand times to show how much you love Jesus, you do it a thousand times. And then you do it again and again because you love Jesus so much.
Loving Jesus means obeying His every command: John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments." This, of course, includes commands given to you in His name. So stop being lazy and start spreading His scripture around as if your life depended on it. Because it does.
Timeless advice, Bob. Your mother must be somewhat proud of you.
Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.
Marijuana is bad for you, but so is chocolate, too much and you can have health problems. Sugar in general. Is it a sin to drink a nice glass of "sweet" tea .etc.
Neither chocolate nor marihuana are sugar. This decrepitude of language is a sure sign that brain rot more generally has set in, due to the weed. Geriatric nurses will be familiar with it: "Those puce and orange elephant's foot patterned curtains are doing my head in therefore I won't eat this cake!" sort of thing when the curtains are tasteful chrysanthemums and afternoon tea is haslet in brine, served on a plate, with delicious pickled walnuts. Mmmm.
The kief addict and the dementing geriatric are much the same. Satan is the reason.
Galatians 5:15-16
If ye bite and devour one another take heed that ye be not consumed one of another
·.. This I say then, Walk in the Spirit and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh ..·
So much for sugar. That poster never returned but sins of the flesh, such as smoking the "spliff" and lolling backwards on your beanbag horribly sprawled where everyone can see but you don't care in fact you're glad they can see due to they might pounce on you so you throw it over to them for a puff just to make sure, in this way are the lusts of the flesh fulfilled.
Now concerning that sweet tea. There are members of the congregation who as wretched heathens consumed this muck (we all know it's not tea really, is it) steeped in a cauldron and passed around like a false communion maybe with sugar or more probably with ice-cubes and LSD for a depraved afternoon. This is what the ganja leads to. Or baked in a cake adorned with clockwork candles for extra effect.
“Do you fancy a slice?”
“Why yes, Ermintrude, I think I do!”
There's a reason for all this. Satan is the reason. And just as no Christians get dumped on with Alzheimer's (at the first inkling a prayer meeting with The Elders would eliminate this malady) so no Christian gets going with sugar men or their obnoxious floozies. Bhang encourages these sins of the flesh and Christians never consume the stuff by any means.
That poster won't return but for others, especially new Christians, we have been provided with Scripture for a reason. All you need to do is read it.
Galatians 5:19-21 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
I feel like I’m to far gone, I am a pot smoking, day drinking, pre-marital sex having, rap/rock listening, Ill mannered, party going, bad grade having teenager who has little respect for authority. I would like your opinion on my salvation and what it would take for me to be forgiven.
I feel like I’m to far gone, I am a pot smoking, day drinking, pre-marital sex having, rap/rock listening, Ill mannered, party going, bad grade having teenager who has little respect for authority. I would like your opinion on my salvation and what it would take for me to be forgiven.
All the answers you seek are here:
The good news is, that almost all sins can be forgiven, so there may be a path towards Salvation for you - unless, of course, you have blasphemed against the Holy Ghost. In this case, you're screwed for eternity, as there's no forgiveness for you, buddy:
Matthew 12:31-32 31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy [against] the [Holy] Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the [world] to come.
Although smoking Marijuana does help with pain, just be careful with how much. It can become addictive and with harsh health risks such as Lung Cancer. Maybe try some other painkillers.
It's not the analgesic effects of "Mary Jane" which concern us (although prayer is the best analgesic) but the psychedelic invitation to demons. They roll it up in cigarette papers, the stench is revolting, they pass it over
then when you try a puff or two they know you're a candidate for the full possession experience. Demons are considered not to exist at all in secular paradigms so nothing (it would be claimed) can sweep clean a path for them to enter. Jesus is not one of those. He said that devils cause self harm:
Mark 4:37– 5:13c There arose a great storm of wind, and the waves beat into the ship, so that it was now full. And [Jesus] was in the hinder part of the ship, asleep on a pillow: and they awake him, and say unto him, Master, carest thou not that we perish? And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still. And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm. And he said unto them, Why are ye so fearful? how is it that ye have no faith? And they feared exceedingly, and said one to another, What manner of man is this, that even the wind and the sea obey him? And they came over unto the other side of the sea, into the country of the Gadarenes. And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit, who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him. And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones. But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him, and cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not. For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit. And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many. And he besought him much that he would not send them away out of the country. Now there was there nigh unto the mountains a great herd of swine feeding. And all the devils besought him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them. And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine
We know that devils are real, what other explanation could there be for Jesus’ conversation with them? and that weed aficionados seek demoniac activities wherever they may be found. Nowhere in The Bible are fragrant herbs recommended for pain relief, although they are mentioned.
That would be a good project for you: Fragrant Herbs In The Bible.
Although smoking Marijuana does help with pain, just be careful with how much. It can become addictive and with harsh health risks such as Lung Cancer. Maybe try some other painkillers.
Says someone who's never smoked cannabis or dealt with chronic pain, or the much worse side effects ANY painkiller can have.
Wow, telling me to go take something that could potentially kill me...
So you do know one thing that's actually true. How about shutting up about the rest until you learn some more? Thanks.
...Don't you think that was a but dramatic though? Just a bad day?
As opposed to what you were actually doing, wishing death on people suffering from pain, by pointing them away from a yet to be proven harmful* substance, towards stuff that CAN and WILL harm them to death (but ensure profits for pharma and their bought politicians) like fentanyl?
*if you want to claim cannabis causes lung cancer, post the study. many people claim that based solely on the "but ... tobacco ... yeah totally different thing but ... it's obvious ... innit?" and never bother to look
If your ignorance only threatened you, I'd happily leave you alone. But you vote (or may someday), and you'll support people who say things you like, no matter how little truth is contained. And that's where my comment originated, in the hope that a little shock may urge you into examining at least one of ways you've been brainwashed.
Fwiw, my last "good" day was about 40 years before you were born.
"Is smoking marijuana a sin"? Yes, it is! Just because it's a plant that grows in God's good earth doesn't mean it should be smoked. You wouldn't smoke parsley, would you? And think of the horrible hurts it can cause to good families when they realize that their loved one is on a path to self-destruction. Kindly repent of any notions of nonsense that pass through your confused mind, and turn to Jesus for forgiveness!
(Mrs.) Isabella White
Hebrews 10:19 " Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the of "
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