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  • Let's pretend there are two children...

    Two children are born on the same time, and I will go over each of their stories.

    Child one is an atheist. Child one (we'll call him Alex) is a kind and caring person who just dosn't like the idea of a god. Alex is still a vollunteer, nice person, and sociable and well liked and accepting of people of all other religions. He is a hard-working member of society who is well groomed and has a beautiful wife.

    Child two, on the other hand (we'll call him Timothy) is a god-fearing christian. Timothy is an antisocial child whom in his past has hated his fellow man based on their religious beliefs and is violent physically and emotionally abusive to those who do not believe in his god...

    Wich of these two children is spared on the day of rapture?

    Alex, Or Timothy?

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    Re: Let's pretend there are two children...

    Originally posted by Skeptic_atheist View Post
    Two children are born on the same time, and I will go over each of their stories.

    Child one is an atheist. Child one (we'll call him Alex) is a kind and caring person who just dosn't like the idea of a god. Alex is still a vollunteer, nice person, and sociable and well liked and accepting of people of all other religions. He is a hard-working member of society who is well groomed and has a beautiful wife.

    Child two, on the other hand (we'll call him Timothy) is a god-fearing christian. Timothy is an antisocial child whom in his past has hated his fellow man based on their religious beliefs and is violent physically and emotionally abusive to those who do not believe in his god...

    Wich of these two children is spared on the day of rapture?

    Alex, Or Timothy?
    Well, Timothy of course. Are you stupid?

    Of course, your story is entirely unrealistic, as an atheist, having no moral guide, would never do anything for his fellow man. It is well known that atheists only care about themselves. That's why they give less to charity than Christians do:

    Originally posted by The Trustworthy Encyclopedia
    In regards to atheism and uncharitableness, charitable giving by atheists and agnostics in America is significantly less than by theists, according to a study by the Barna Group:

    “ The typical no-faith American donated just $200 in 2006, which is more than seven times less than the amount contributed by the prototypical active-faith adult ($1500). Even when church-based giving is subtracted from the equation, active-faith adults donated twice as many dollars last year as did atheists and agnostics. In fact, while just 7% of active-faith adults failed to contribute any personal funds in 2006, that compares with 22% among the no-faith adults.[1]

    Arthur C. Brooks wrote in Policy Review regarding data collected in the Social Capital Community Benchmark Survey (SCCBS) (data collected by in 2000 by researchers at universities throughout the United States and the Roper Center for Public Opinion Research):

    “ The differences in charity between secular and religious people are dramatic. Religious people are 25 percentage points more likely than secularists to donate money (91 percent to 66 percent) and 23 points more likely to volunteer time (67 percent to 44 percent). And, consistent with the findings of other writers, these data show that practicing a religion is more important than the actual religion itself in predicting charitable behavior. For example, among those who attend worship services regularly, 92 percent of Protestants give charitably, compared with 91 percent of Catholics, 91 percent of Jews, and 89 percent from other religions.[2]

    ABC News reported the following:

    “ ...the single biggest predictor of whether someone will be charitable is their religious participation. Religious people are more likely to give to charity, and when they give, they give more money: four times as much. And Arthur Brooks told me that giving goes beyond their own religious organization:
    "Actually, the truth is that they're giving to more than their churches," he says. "The religious Americans are more likely to give to every kind of cause and charity, including explicitly non-religious charities."[3]

    ” Given that atheistic evolutionary thinking has engendered social darwinism and given that the proponents of atheism have no rational basis for morality in their ideology, the immoral views that atheists often hold and the low per capita giving of American atheists is not unpredictable
    Additionally, Timothy would never hate his fellow man, as he would be filled with True Christian Love™, like we are.

    I hope I answered your question satisfactorily with this.
    Sweet Lord Jesus,
    I want to pray for those who persecute me, my Lord.
    Please, treat their children as you treated those of Egypt, when they upset you! (Psalm 135:8-9)
    Dash their little children against the stones for their fathers iniquity! (Psalm 137:8-9)
    Hit them on the cheek, and smash out their teeth! (Psalm 3:7)
    Make their death and descent into Hell swift and terrible! (Psalm 55:15)
    Scatter their broken bodies over the streets of their evil cities, like Benghazi, Amsterdam, Tokyo and Mecca! (Psalm 110:6)
    Praised be Your Glorious Name™.

    Amen.

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    • #3
      Re: Let's pretend there are two children...

      Originally posted by Skeptic_atheist View Post
      Two children are born on the same time, and I will go over each of their stories.

      Child one is an atheist. Child one (we'll call him Alex) is a kind and caring person who just dosn't like the idea of a god. Alex is still a vollunteer, nice person, and sociable and well liked and accepting of people of all other religions. He is a hard-working member of society who is well groomed and has a beautiful wife.
      This guy is going to hell. Revelation 21:8 among other verses clearly says so.

      But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.


      Originally posted by Skeptic_atheist View Post
      Child two, on the other hand (we'll call him Timothy) is a god-fearing christian. Timothy is an antisocial child whom in his past has hated his fellow man based on their religious beliefs and is violent physically and emotionally abusive to those who do not believe in his god...
      He's clearly going to Heaven.


      Silly question.
      Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.


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      • #4
        Re: Let's pretend there are two children...

        Timothy, of course. Any other answer would imply salvation through works, which is wrong:

        Eph. 2:8-9: For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.
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        • #5
          Re: Let's pretend there are two children...

          Haha, I'm sorry to tell you sir, but that story is completely and utterly the truth.

          I myself am alex and timothy very well exists. I donate to charity, vollunteer my time for cancer research, am a social person who vollunteers at my friends church for the sake that my friends depend on me, where as timothy spouts bible verses at me for my beliefs and genuinly hates me for not believing in god.

          And if you want to get technical, you're statisticly not going to heaven either. Think of the millions of religions in the world, it's just liek the "Ball under the 3 cups game" where you find the ball under the cup, but now there's millions and millions of cups, one for every religion. Statistically, both of our religions have a .0000001% chance of making it to a heaven if such place exists.

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          • #6
            Re: Let's pretend there are two children...

            Obviously, the religion that lines up with the King James Bible (that is, ours) has a 100% probability of being true, whereas all others have a zero probability of being true. You still have time to repent and be saved, unless of course you've blasphemed against the Holy Ghost. Wouldn't you like to be my neighbor in Heaven?
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            • #7
              Re: Let's pretend there are two children...

              With the upmost respect, Mr. Issac Peters, if everyone on this forum is going to heaven, I feel I am going to like it just fine in hell.

              Also, as a general rule of life (Oh look at this, a 16 year old telling an adult a rule of life) Generally stay away from terms such as Always, never, or 100% they have a probobility of coming back to bite you on the white supremisist ass.

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              • #8
                Re: Let's pretend there are two children...

                I object to the"let's pretend" aspect.

                We here at Landover do not go in for imaginary friends. We accept that The Lord in Heaven, immortal and invisible, has made all things well and that He shows us the Way, The Truth and The Light. Through Him, we will reach the eternal city on Death and meet with our friends and relations.

                Demoner, I strongly suggest you start to live in the real world and not create hypothetical problems that cause dissent.
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                Map of the Known World; Periodic Table of Elements; The History of Linguistics; The Errors of Wicca; Dolphins and Evolution; The History of Landover (The Apology); Landover and the Civil War; 2000 Racial Slurs.

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                • #9
                  Re: Let's pretend there are two children...

                  You reject imaginary friends and yet blindly accept god....isn't hypocricy a bad thing???

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                  • #10
                    Re: Let's pretend there are two children...

                    Originally posted by Skeptic_atheist View Post
                    Haha, I'm sorry to tell you sir, but that story is completely and utterly the truth.

                    I myself am alex and timothy very well exists. I donate to charity, vollunteer my time for cancer research, am a social person who vollunteers at my friends church for the sake that my friends depend on me, where as timothy spouts bible verses at me for my beliefs and genuinly hates me for not believing in god.
                    So you give to charities so that you can brag. That's still doing it for your own gains.

                    And I really doubt Timothy hates you, he's probably loves you very much. Why else would he spend his time trying to save your eternal soul from damnation?
                    Drama queen

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                    • #11
                      Re: Let's pretend there are two children...

                      Originally posted by Skeptic_atheist View Post
                      You reject imaginary friends and yet blindly accept god....isn't hypocricy a bad thing???
                      Please! Is not the Proof of God all around us? Who could live a life that has to be a lie in the face of such evidence?
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                      “We must reassert that the essence of Christianity is the love of obedience to God’s Laws and that how that complete obedience is used or implemented does not concern us.”

                      Author of such illuminating essays as,
                      Map of the Known World; Periodic Table of Elements; The History of Linguistics; The Errors of Wicca; Dolphins and Evolution; The History of Landover (The Apology); Landover and the Civil War; 2000 Racial Slurs.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Let's pretend there are two children...

                        Young man, when I was your age, I knew everything too. Now I've learned to trust in the Lord.
                        This church is dedicated to preaching True Christianity™ and the King James Bible exactly as they are, with no alterations to make them more politically correct for modern liberals. If you think that we've misquoted or twisted Scripture or quoted any verse out of context, please explain in detail how we've done so. Otherwise, if what you read on this site offends you, then you're offended by Almighty God and His Word, not by us.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Let's pretend there are two children...

                          FACT CHECK TIME

                          You say it's based on reality. Okay. Where's Timothy's side of the story then? You sure pat yourself on the back and you sure badmouth Timothy a lot. You're not telling us the truth, friend.

                          What probably happened is that you used violence against Timothy every time he refused to denounce God. Then, after he left your abusive household, you continue to stalk him and badmouth him.

                          Why can't you leave Timothy alone?? Does your atheist hate run so deep that you cannot let Timothy live his life in peace with the Lord??

                          Poor Timothy.
                          I take my orders from Jesus H. Christ, supernatural born US citizen

                          Be wary of false Kumbaya Christians who use a highlighter and scissors to read the Bible. God wants us to read the lines, not between the lines. False Christians will go to Hell:
                          Matthew 7:22
                          Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
                          Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

                          Asking a Christian to prove God exists is like asking him to prove his phone rings because yours doesn't. Make that call yourself! Dial 0800-get-on-your-knees-and-pray.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Let's pretend there are two children...

                            Why atheists who do "good deeds" are even worse than regular ones

                            The rules that we follow are for OUR benefit, not for God's. God is self-sufficient and is not in need of us. If we obey or disobey, it neither benefits God nor harms God.

                            However, God said in the Bible - “This people I have formed for myself; they shall declare my praise.” Isaiah 43:21.

                            So the purpose of our existence is to worship God. And God has explained to us HOW to worship Him. We worship God by praying and fasting and being charitable and doing the various good deeds. It is the rules/regulations that define for us which deeds are good and which are bad.

                            But it is important to note, that these actions are only worship if they are done with the intention of worship. Thus, an atheist who fasts and feeds the poor and cares for orphans, etc is not worshipping God by doing so. Rather, he is rebelling against God. Why? It is because he considers himself the authority who determines what is right and what is wrong. But God is the only One with that authority. And the atheist is rebelling against that.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Let's pretend there are two children...

                              Originally posted by BelieverInGod View Post
                              So you give to charities so that you can brag. That's still doing it for your own gains.
                              The good Sister makes a very valid point.

                              Matthew 6:1-2
                              Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven
                              Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
                              Luke 5:31
                              And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick

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