[Gabriel Reproba]

Re: How Should I Kill My Kittens: Drowning Or Smash Their Heads In?

This makes me want to vomit

The Bible actually has much to say in regard to animal abuse. In the beginning, God created the earth and all the creatures on it to be under the authority of humanity. He entrusted these beautiful elements of His creation to our care (Genesis 1:26). Our sinful nature causes us to abuse the animal kingdom, sometimes without even realizing it. Yet, God expects the Christian, above all others, to be sensitive to all of His creation, knowing that exploiting or abusing it shows a disrespect for God Himself. Abuse of anything that God made is not the character of God, but rather of the Evil One.
In Deuteronomy 22:6-7, God promises a long life to those who will watch over wild birds. If we rape the land or the creatures in it, what will sustain us in the future? He allows for the taking of eggs, but commands that we release the mother bird to continue living in the wild and reproducing as He intended. In Job 38:41, God says that He hears the cries of newborn ravens crying to Him for food. Jesus went on to say that God supplies food for the wild birds and that not one of them falls to the ground without Him knowing it
this also goes for those of you who want to mindlessly hunt coyotes

What does ANY of that have to do with God's law which I clearly cited in the original post?

[Knighty Knight]

Re: How Should I Kill My Kittens: Drowning Or Smash Their Heads In?

I know I'm pretty late and you've probably killed those poor things by now but...

They're kittens. They're infant cats. Cats are not evil. They are not "witches" or "demons". They're just living things that will be forced to suffer painfully because of your crazed practises.

If you people had lived in medieval times, I'd say your beliefs would be pretty interesting. But NOW? Oh god, this is sad.

Btw,

1. Your kid was either dumb enough to annoy/attack the cat (It's just like you get annoyed at people's existance, you bash them)

2. It was playful bite. Animals do that.

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: How Should I Kill My Kittens: Drowning Or Smash Their Heads In?

I know I'm pretty late and you've probably killed those poor things by now but...

They're kittens. They're infant cats. Cats are not evil. They are not "witches" or "demons". They're just living things that will be forced to suffer painfully because of your crazed practises.

If you people had lived in medieval times, I'd say your beliefs would be pretty interesting. But NOW? Oh god, this is sad.

Btw,

1. Your kid was either dumb enough to annoy/attack the cat (It's just like you get annoyed at people's existance, you bash them)

2. It was playful bite. Animals do that.

You must remember that animals do not know they are suffering and cannot feel pain. God has not given them the ability to feel these things.

Christian apologist William Lane Craig has summed it up well,

So Christian theologians of all stripes have to face the challenge posed by animal pain. Here recent studies in biology have provided surprising, new insights into this old problem. In his book Nature Red in Tooth and Claw: Theism and the Problem of Animal Suffering, Michael Murray distinguishes three levels in an ascending pain hierarchy (read from the bottom up):
Level 3: a second order awareness that one is oneself experiencing (2).
Level 2: a first order, subjective experience of pain.
Level 1: information-bearing neural states produced by noxious stimuli resulting in aversive behavior.
Spiders and insects--the sort of creatures most exhibiting the kinds of behavior mentioned by Ayala--experience (1). But there's no reason at all to attribute (2) to such creatures. It's plausible that they aren't sentient beings at all with some sort of subjective, interior life. That sort of experience plausibly does not arise until one gets to the level of vertebrates in the animal kingdom. But even though animals like dogs, cats, and horses experience pain, nevertheless the evidence is that they do not experience level (3), the awareness that they are in pain. For the awareness that one is oneself in pain requires self-awareness, which is centered in the pre-frontal cortex of the brain--a section of the brain which is missing in all animals except for the humanoid primates. Thus, amazingly, even though animals may experience pain, they are not aware of being in pain. God in His mercy has apparently spared animals the awareness of pain. This is a tremendous comfort to us pet owners. For even though your dog or cat may be in pain, it really isn't aware of it and so doesn't suffer as you would if you were in pain.

My dog was hit by a car a few days ago and this information has saved me a fortune on veterinary bills. Although the neighbors are concerned about the howling from our shed I have explained that it will stop in a day or two.

Just think of all the money that is wasted stunning animals in slaughter houses. Also to speed up the whole meat process maybe live butchery could be introduced.

YIC


Jack

[Thomas Dalton]

Re: How Should I Kill My Kittens: Drowning Or Smash Their Heads In?

You must remember that animals do not know they are suffering and cannot feel pain. God has not given them the ability to feel these things.

My dog was hit by a car a few days ago and this information has saved me a fortune on veterinary bills. Although the neighbors are concerned about the howling from our shed I have explained that it will stop in a day or two.

Just think of all the money that is wasted stunning animals in slaughter houses. Also to speed up the whole meat process maybe live butchery could be introduced.

YIC


Jack

I pity the Atheists that pay for their execution of their pets. When a runt is born in a litter at my home (we breed our own dogs, originally for fox hunting), me or my father would just crush its skull by stepping on him with our working boots. Much cheaper.

My mother would try it to, but we don't trust her to do a thorough job. She is a woman after all.

To answer the the original question, even though I'm sure it's not needed anymore, I would stone them. Better yet, ask your children to do it, to introduce them to the duties described in the Bible.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: How Should I Kill My Kittens: Drowning Or Smash Their Heads In?

You must remember that animals do not know they are suffering and cannot feel pain. God has not given them the ability to feel these things.

Christian apologist William Lane Craig has summed it up well,

Has Mr. Craig tested this with Negroes?

It's entirely possible their cries of agony when being flogged (much like a dog being kicked) are purely reflexive, and, as Mr. Craig says, they don't actually understand that they are in pain.

That'd pretty well undercut the whole "anti-slavery" argument, no?

[ModestMartin]

Re: How Should I Kill My Kittens: Drowning Or Smash Their Heads In?

Has Mr. Craig tested this with Negroes?

It's entirely possible their cries of agony when being flogged (much like a dog being kicked) are purely reflexive, and, as Mr. Craig says, they don't actually understand that they are in pain.

That'd pretty well undercut the whole "anti-slavery" argument, no?

ModestMartin here, interesting viewpoint.

I think a squirrel is probably the holiest of animals, I have sacrificed many animals at my altar at my residence and this is the only animal that has not squealed.

God rest your soul, young squirrel.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: How Should I Kill My Kittens: Drowning Or Smash Their Heads In?

ModestMartin here, interesting viewpoint.

I think a squirrel is probably the holiest of animals, I have sacrificed many animals at my altar at my residence and this is the only animal that has not squealed.

God rest your soul, young squirrel.

Are you suggesting that the temporary sacrifice of Jesus Christ was somehow insufficient to ensure the eternal forgiveness of His believers?

Logic dictates that Jesus Christ temporarily died on a cross, therefore my sins are forgiven whether or not I sacrifice animals in accordance with God's word.

You should repent of this blasphemy immediately.

[Thomas Dalton]

Re: How Should I Kill My Kittens: Drowning Or Smash Their Heads In?

And you should make an introductory thread to let us know you! Please include favorite bible verse and hunting rifle.

Yours in Christ,

Thomas

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: How Should I Kill My Kittens: Drowning Or Smash Their Heads In?

ModestMartin here, interesting viewpoint.

I think a squirrel is probably the holiest of animals, I have sacrificed many animals at my altar at my residence and this is the only animal that has not squealed.

God rest your soul, young squirrel.

Why are you sacrificing squirrels, and to whom?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: How Should I Kill My Kittens: Drowning Or Smash Their Heads In?

ModestMartin here, interesting viewpoint.

I think a squirrel is probably the holiest of animals, I have sacrificed many animals at my altar at my residence and this is the only animal that has not squealed.

God rest your soul, young squirrel.

Dear Martina;

I don't know whether to rebuke you for bestiality, idol worship, or just plain retardedness. In any event, I rebuke you in Christ's name.

[Gabriel Reproba]

Re: How Should I Kill My Kittens: Drowning Or Smash Their Heads In?

I know I'm pretty late and you've probably killed those poor things by now but...

They're kittens. They're infant cats. Cats are not evil. They are not "witches" or "demons". They're just living things that will be forced to suffer painfully because of your crazed practises.

If you people had lived in medieval times, I'd say your beliefs would be pretty interesting. But NOW? Oh god, this is sad.

Btw,

1. Your kid was either dumb enough to annoy/attack the cat (It's just like you get annoyed at people's existance, you bash them)

2. It was playful bite. Animals do that.

I don't see anywhere in your post where you addressed the Biblical passages that commanded me to kill my ex-kittens. Could you please stay on-topic and explain to me why I should disobey God?

[edward potter]

Re: How Should I Kill My Kittens: Drowning Or Smash Their Heads In?

You are all sick-minded doesnt it say to respect Gods creation, not to kill it because it scratched your kid and also that is animal abuse

[Zechariah Smyth]

You are all sick-minded doesnt it say to respect Gods creation, not to kill it because it scratched your kid and also that is animal abuse

Where exactly does it say to "respect Gods (sic) creation" friend? My Bible mentions "dominion" as I recall.

YiC,

Z. Smyth
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[Jack O'fagan]

Re: How Should I Kill My Kittens: Drowning Or Smash Their Heads In?

You are all sick-minded doesnt it say to respect Gods creation, not to kill it because it scratched your kid and also that is animal abuse

Animal abuse?? Why would you come on to a Christian website and then talk about secular values?

YIC

Jack

[Proud Faroese]

Re: How Should I Kill My Kittens: Drowning Or Smash Their Heads In?

You are all sick-minded doesnt it say to respect Gods creation, not to kill it because it scratched your kid and also that is animal abuse

Who cares what animals feel? Not God