[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Pray That God Does Not Bless Our Dogs

But...God made all of the animals, did He not? As His creations, we must at least make sure He loves them, too. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Or what? You'll put God in a corner for a time-out?

[thefather]

Re: Pray That God Does Not Bless Our Dogs

GOD-Saviour ( not sure if this will come up twice. Sorry if does)

GOD BLESS US ALL! GOD-Saviour, You are right about the animals, and so are the cpmments made by others. It's the process that needs to be understood about we got where we are.

The heart you have is of CHRIST, so, that's why you want to respect HIS creation. Which is totally correct!! That is what heaven will be. In this world people are still getting their ( even believers). Faith is a process. It will all come together in heaven.

As that Genesis passage repeated, we do have dominion over animals, but it doesnt say for meat. That's later after GOD's flood with Noah.

Herbs are for meat. Meat is used like we use the word today. It means something to eat. LOL!!

Later after Adam and Eve sinned, that sin made us weak, and also created enemity ( a hatred and problem ) between animals and us. Adam and Eve also opened our eyes to lust/idolarty, and because of this, we always have to labor in all things. The more we sin, this is what GOD orders. So many people that think GOD doesnt see what they do, know HE does. After their sin, we were given laws, which eventually said about how to eat:

Plants and herbs were to eat, and Animals were made by GOD. Animals were originally made to be a help to Adam. GOD had Adam name them, but for ADAM, the animals were not the help partners he needed:

Genesis 2:15-20
15 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.
16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
18 And the LORD God said, [It is] not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought [them] unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that [was] the name thereof.
20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.

Psalms 8:4-9
4 What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?
5 For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour.
6 Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all [things] under his feet:
7 All sheep and oxen, yea, and the beasts of the field;
8 The fowl of the air, and the fish of the sea, [and whatsoever] passeth through the paths of the seas.
9 O LORD our Lord, how excellent [is] thy name in all the earth!

Adam and Eve sin, open to lust/idolaty, and then our lineage to labor in all things, also we must die ( or return back to dust). Also enemity with animals:

Genesis 3:6-19
6 And when the woman saw that the tree [was] good for food, and that it [was] pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make [one] wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they [were] naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
8 And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.
9 And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where [art] thou?
10 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I [was] naked; and I hid myself.
11 And he said, Who told thee that thou [wast] naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?
12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest [to be] with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.
13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What [is] this [that] thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou [art] cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire [shall be] to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed [is] the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat [of] it all the days of thy life;
18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;
19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou [art], and unto dust shalt thou return.


GOD makes clean and unclean animals, allows us to eat them. But, we can never kill man ( humans! Not just men, because Eve comes from Adam's rib). If we kill man we suffer, because man is made in GOD's image:
Geneis 3:1-6
1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.
2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth [upon] the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.
3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.
4 But flesh with the life thereof, [which is] the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.
5 And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.
6 Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.


What to eat when all was natural.
LEVITICUS 11

And the LORD spake unto Moses and to Aaron, saying unto them,
2 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, These [are] the beasts which ye shall eat among all the beasts that [are] on the earth.
3 Whatsoever parteth the hoof, and is clovenfooted, [and] cheweth the cud, among the beasts, that shall ye eat.
4 Nevertheless these shall ye not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the hoof: [as] the camel, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he [is] unclean unto you.
5 And the coney, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he [is] unclean unto you.
6 And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he [is] unclean unto you.
7 And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he [is] unclean to you.
8 Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they [are] unclean to you.
9 These shall ye eat of all that [are] in the waters: whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat.
10 And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which [is] in the waters, they [shall be] an abomination unto you:
11 They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination.
12 Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that [shall be] an abomination unto you.
13 And these [are they which] ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they [are] an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
14 And the vulture, and the kite after his kind;
15 Every raven after his kind;
16 And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind,
17 And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl,
18 And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle,
19 And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.
20 All fowls that creep, going upon [all] four, [shall be] an abomination unto you.
21 Yet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing that goeth upon [all] four, which have legs above their feet, to leap withal upon the earth;
22 [Even] these of them ye may eat; the locust after his kind, and the bald locust after his kind, and the beetle after his kind, and the grasshopper after his kind.
23 But all [other] flying creeping things, which have four feet, [shall be] an abomination unto you.
24 And for these ye shall be unclean: whosoever toucheth the carcase of them shall be unclean until the even.
25 And whosoever beareth [ought] of the carcase of them shall wash his clothes, and be unclean until the even.
26 [The carcases] of every beast which divideth the hoof, and [is] not clovenfooted, nor cheweth the cud, [are] unclean unto you: every one that toucheth them shall be unclean.
27 And whatsoever goeth upon his paws, among all manner of beasts that go on [all] four, those [are] unclean unto you: whoso toucheth their carcase shall be unclean until the even.
28 And he that beareth the carcase of them shall wash his clothes, and be unclean until the even: they [are] unclean unto you.
29 These also [shall be] unclean unto you among the creeping things that creep upon the earth; the weasel, and the mouse, and the tortoise after his kind,
30 And the ferret, and the chameleon, and the lizard, and the snail, and the mole.
31 These [are] unclean to you among all that creep: whosoever doth touch them, when they be dead, shall be unclean until the even.
32 And upon whatsoever [any] of them, when they are dead, doth fall, it shall be unclean; whether [it be] any vessel of wood, or raiment, or skin, or sack, whatsoever vessel [it be], wherein [any] work is done, it must be put into water, and it shall be unclean until the even; so it shall be cleansed.
33 And every earthen vessel, whereinto [any] of them falleth, whatsoever [is] in it shall be unclean; and ye shall break it.
34 Of all meat which may be eaten, [that] on which [such] water cometh shall be unclean: and all drink that may be drunk in every [such] vessel shall be unclean.
35 And every [thing] whereupon [any part] of their carcase falleth shall be unclean; [whether it be] oven, or ranges for pots, they shall be broken down: [for] they [are] unclean, and shall be unclean unto you.
36 Nevertheless a fountain or pit, [wherein there is] plenty of water, shall be clean: but that which toucheth their carcase shall be unclean.
37 And if [any part] of their carcase fall upon any sowing seed which is to be sown, it [shall be] clean.
38 But if [any] water be put upon the seed, and [any part] of their carcase fall thereon, it [shall be] unclean unto you.
39 And if any beast, of which ye may eat, die; he that toucheth the carcase thereof shall be unclean until the even.
40 And he that eateth of the carcase of it shall wash his clothes, and be unclean until the even: he also that beareth the carcase of it shall wash his clothes, and be unclean until the even.
41 And every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth [shall be] an abomination; it shall not be eaten.
42 Whatsoever goeth upon the belly, and whatsoever goeth upon [all] four, or whatsoever hath more feet among all creeping things that creep upon the earth, them ye shall not eat; for they [are] an abomination.
43 Ye shall not make yourselves abominable with any creeping thing that creepeth, neither shall ye make yourselves unclean with them, that ye should be defiled thereby.
44 For I [am] the LORD your God: ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves, and ye shall be holy; for I [am] holy: neither shall ye defile yourselves with any manner of creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
45 For I [am] the LORD that bringeth you up out of the land of Egypt, to be your God: ye shall therefore be holy, for I [am] holy.
46 This [is] the law of the beasts, and of the fowl, and of every living creature that moveth in the waters, and of every creature that creepeth upon the earth:
47 To make a difference between the unclean and the clean, and between the beast that may be eaten and the beast that may not be eaten.

GOD will come start to pick out HIS believers for heaven which will be in peace with nature, animals, humans, and all:

33 [As] I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out, will I rule over you:
34 And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out.
35 And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face.
36 Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith the Lord GOD.
37 And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant:
38 And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me: I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye shall know that I [am] the LORD.

Isaiah 11:6-10
And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins.
6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.
9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.
10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.


The joke about life today is that many things are made by science( animals, plants, seeds, etc...) so, many things people cook, plant, etc... arent even real. For example just look up on the internet Hybrid and Non-Hybric fruits and vegetables. Hybrid is science made and non-hybrid are GOD made. You will be very surprised.

This is a main reason why JESUS says, " Dont worry about what you put in your mouth, it's what comes out that defiles us!!". Then " Man will devour himself". JESUS, who is the son of GOD, knew that humans would mostly follow scientest, psychology, and alot of " worldly' things, because many humans need to see things to do them or believe them. HE knew we were stubborn, because even the Disciples who saw HIM and we with HIM during miracles that they saw, they still denied HIM and ran away from HIM before HE was crucified.

So, JESUS, who knows our future and knowing we are poor misguided " sheep " ( people), knows that we will be misguided by our 5 senses. That's why there is a remnant here. Those are who is coming to get individually. Those remnant are known by their peculiar faith, joy through all things, love that surpasses all understanding, and discipline in difficult situations. These were the mark of the believer/elect/remnant; back then and now. The mark of the beast will be the exact opposite. Many think it's a number, but remember that the adversary is the angel of light that tries to mimick CHRIST. CHRIST is love, the opposite it hate.

Dont worry what you eat, it's what comes out:
Matthew 15:17-18
17 Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught?
18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.

Jesus knows man is weak and needs to see things before they believe, which makes them weak to the teachings of evil ( Pharisees who are still here today!! ALOT!):
Matthew 26:37
35 Peter said unto him, Though I should die with thee, yet will I not deny thee. Likewise also said all the disciples.
36 Then cometh Jesus with them unto a place called Gethsemane, and saith unto the disciples, Sit ye here, while I go and pray yonder.
37 And he took with him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, and began to be sorrowful and very heavy.
38 Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: tarry ye here, and watch with me.
39 And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou [wilt].
40 And he cometh unto the disciples, and findeth them asleep, and saith unto Peter, What, could ye not watch with me one hour?
41 Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed [is] willing, but the flesh [is] weak.
42 He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done.
43 And he came and found them asleep again: for their eyes were heavy.
44 And he left them, and went away again, and prayed the third time, saying the same words.

Matthew 16:1-16
1 The Pharisees also with the Sadducees came, and tempting desired him that he would shew them a sign from heaven.
2 He answered and said unto them, When it is evening, ye say, [It will be] fair weather: for the sky is red.
3 And in the morning, [It will be] foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowring. O [ye] hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not [discern] the signs of the times?
4 A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed.
5 And when his disciples were come to the other side, they had forgotten to take bread.
6 Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.
7 And they reasoned among themselves, saying, [It is] because we have taken no bread.
8 [Which] when Jesus perceived, he said unto them, O ye of little faith, why reason ye among yourselves, because ye have brought no bread?
9 Do ye not yet understand, neither remember the five loaves of the five thousand, and how many baskets ye took up?
10 Neither the seven loaves of the four thousand, and how many baskets ye took up?
11 How is it that ye do not understand that I spake [it] not to you concerning bread, that ye should beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees?
12 Then understood they how that he bade [them] not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

Be a peculiar being on this earth in joy, love, and obedience to GOD:
Proverbs 19:5
5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth [is] mine:

They that have an ear let them hear.
Mark 4:9
9 And he said unto them, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.



Blessings,

thefather

[Brother Enoch]

Re: Pray That God Does Not Bless Our Dogs

GOD BLESS US ALL!

Okay, I haven't said anything before (because I'm a friendly, welcoming sort) but this is really getting on my nerves. Who are YOU to be ordering God around? Papist scum telling God what to do? Really?

Unbelievable. I shudder to think what you papist kiddy-diddlers would actually do to baby Jesus if you had the chance.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Pray That God Does Not Bless Our Dogs

Why would I bless a dog?

It isn't like I'm going to EAT it (I'm no chinaman).

[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: Pray That God Does Not Bless Our Dogs

Why would I bless a dog?

Great point, Brother Smyth.

When you think about it, what has a dog ever done to deserve some kind of blessing by the Catlick clergy?

Dogs bark, pee on fire hydrants, and that's about it. Whatever else they are good for is lost on me.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Pray That God Does Not Bless Our Dogs

When you think about it, what has a dog ever done to deserve some kind of blessing by the Catlick clergy?

Had an owner who is both superstitious and gullible enough to subscribe to the papist's pagan rituals in disguise.

[Free Market Fred]

Re: Pray That God Does Not Bless Our Dogs

Dogs bark, pee on fire hydrants, and that's about it. Whatever else they are good for is lost on me.

Brother Johny, you need to use a little more imagination - dogs do have a useful role in society, and not only as Chink cuisine. True, dogs can be a dirty nuisance at times. In fact, just last month I ordered my bodyguard to shoot a dog that pissed on the tire of my limo - it's time those canines took some individual responsibility. And yeah, seems like most of the world's dogs are on food stamps - all they have to do is wag their tails and shіt, and they get a free meal.

But having said that, look at some of the ways dogs can earn a living. Just last Sunday, I was visiting one of my company's factories in China - I had some business there giving private Bible lessons to a couple of cute young female trainees in the back room. Anyway, being a Sunday, the workers were given the traditional half-day off per month. So after lunch, the male workers gathered round the parking lot for an entertaining dog fight.

Normally, I don't usually like to get too close to the male workers because those toxic chemicals they work with in our factories everyday can permeate their clothes and skin and can't be washed off, so those men are a regular walking hazardous waste dump. But anyway, I wanted to show that even the boss is just a regular guy, so I joined them and placed a $100 bet on the white dog.


Dogs earning their keep

As it turns out, he lost, but being a good sport, I only deducted 50% of my bet from their pay.

While I'm on this topic of dog fights, I just want to add that I thought it was very racist of them animal-rights libtards to prosecute Michael Vick, a Negro football player, just for betting on a few dog fights. It's especially ironic, given that betting on Negro fights is considered a respectable activity and even gets shown on TV.


Negroes earning their keep

Then again, neither dogs nor Negros have a soul, so I'm sure the Lord doesn't care what happens to them. I don't know why anyone else does either. On the other hand, it's pretty cool that those PETA chicks love animals so much that they'll take off their clothes in public.


PETA chicks earning their keep

Of course, when they do this kind of thing in front of my company's baby harp seal fur coat outlets, I have to send in the goons to crack some heads. But looking on the bright side, this gives them an opportunity to have some fun with the prisoners in the back room of the police station. It's little fringe benefits like that which assure their loyalty to me, and cheaper than paying them a living wage.

[True Science]

Re: Pray That God Does Not Bless Our Dogs

Yelling at them isn't going to make them stop. If we really want to help our fellow human beings, then we should approach them in a calm and respectful manner and politely ask them to stop. We should also pray to god that he forgives them for their sins.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Pray That God Does Not Bless Our Dogs

Yelling at them isn't going to make them stop. If we really want to help our fellow human beings, then we should approach them in a calm and respectful manner and politely ask them to stop. We should also pray to god that he forgives them for their sins.

What leaflet are you getting this nonsense from? It certainly isn't the Holy Bible.