[Talitha]

Re: When is it right to beat a woman?

The fact that you people would even need to ask this disgusts me.

As a simple answer: NEVER! You can defend yourself, but you shouldn't have to beat a woman! Anyway, if you need to defend yourself from a woman, you don't need to be with her, anyway.

I know I'm probably going to get a black eye from the Pastor for posting in here but I feel I have to say something.

Listen, Mister. Jesus says It's OK for a Man to beat on a Woman.
We don't come around to your place of Worship telling you right from wrong do we?
I suggest you stop trying here

[Off Base]

Re: When is it right to beat a woman?

I know I'm probably going to get a black eye from the Pastor for posting in here but I feel I have to say something.

Listen, Mister. Jesus says It's OK for a Man to beat on a Woman.
We don't come around to your place of Worship telling you right from wrong do we?
I suggest you stop trying here

It's not "Mister."

Anyway, fine, if you want to let your men beat you, that's your problem. When the beatings turn fatal, you just help prove evolution by taking a huge chunk of stupid out of the gene-pool (actually, you probably take two chunks of stupid out of the gene-pool, because he won't be procreating in jail).

As for me, any man tries to beat me, he should hope the police get involved before I take matters into my own hands. I refuse to be a victim. Ever.

[Capt. Aaron Portway]

Re: When is it right to beat a woman?

It's not "Mister."

Anyway, fine, if you want to let your men beat you, that's your problem. When the beatings turn fatal, you just help prove evolution by taking a huge chunk of stupid out of the gene-pool (actually, you probably take two chunks of stupid out of the gene-pool, because he won't be procreating in jail).

As for me, any man tries to beat me, he should hope the police get involved before I take matters into my own hands. I refuse to be a victim. Ever.

Yeah, it turns out it's Mr. For Great Justice is a she! A ewe in rams clothing, again! Why do these unsaved women have to come in here and pretend to be men? All Your Lies Are Belong to Us now lady!

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: When is it right to beat a woman?

It's not "Mister."

Anyway, fine, if you want to let your men beat you, that's your problem. When the beatings turn fatal, you just help prove evolution by taking a huge chunk of stupid out of the gene-pool (actually, you probably take two chunks of stupid out of the gene-pool, because he won't be procreating in jail).

As for me, any man tries to beat me, he should hope the police get involved before I take matters into my own hands. I refuse to be a victim. Ever.

You're a victim of satan already. Better wake up and accept Christ.

[Bob4God]

Re: When is it right to beat a woman?

As for me, any man tries to beat me, he should hope the police get involved before I take matters into my own hands. I refuse to be a victim. Ever.

What are you going to do, beat him to death with your purse??

[Capt. Aaron Portway]

Re: When is it right to beat a woman?

What are you going to do, beat him to death with your purse??

She sounds like one of those "No means No" types. We all know it's actually "No means Harder!"

[savinggraceless]

Re: When is it right to beat a woman?

Listen, Mister. Jesus says It's OK for a Man to beat on a Woman.

please, for once could someone from this church stop beating around the bush, get out a Bible and point to me where it says specifically in Scripture that a man can beat his wife. If you show me this I will not say one more thing about it.

[iamwus]

Re: When is it right to beat a woman?

Friends, I come here asking your advice in a spirit of Christ-like humility. I feat that, in the last few days, I may have grievously sinned against the Lord and male property rights, and my soul is troubled.
Recently, I've been spending a lot of time unchaperoned with a certain young lady. Of course, we haven't actually indulged in any lustful or lascivious acts together (thank you Jesus), but only those activities which it is proper for a young man and woman to perform together: sitting around while she scrubs my floors, washes my clothes, polishes my Bible, and so on. However, a few days ago, she burnt my steak, and in response...well, I behaved as any passionate red-blooded heterosexual man would do.
My question is: have I gone too far too fast? I know that the sacred responsibility of disciplining a woman is one of the most vital aspects of the Godly Institution of Matrimony, and to engage in this very special act with a woman I'm not actually married to just feels...wrong, really. As an unmarried woman, the young lady I beat senseless is still the property of her father, and to have damaged another Christian man's property...well, it doesn't feel good, I tell you that. So, friends, tell me honestly: by giving a black eye to a woman who doesn't belong to me, have I offended God?

Any one hitting a female (other than disciplining a child) is a a weak willed individual and a coward! You sir disgust me!!!!!!!

[Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S.]

Re: When is it right to beat a woman?

Any one hitting a female (other than disciplining a child) is a a weak willed individual and a coward! You sir disgust me!!!!!!!

I don't want to know what bizarro-world you happen to be in where exerting one's physical dominance is considered "weak willed" and "cowardly"! Are you saying that our troops are weak willed and cowardly? They aren't DEMOCRATS, for crying out loud! Last I checked, expressing one's dominance is the utmost in manliness--otherwise why would all the masculine men out there be driving their lifted 4x4 trucks and owning mastiffs? (Hint: they wouldn't, they'd be fag-enabling fairies driving Prius' and owning chihuahas)

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: When is it right to beat a woman?

Any one hitting a female (other than disciplining a child) is a a weak willed individual and a coward! You sir disgust me!!!!!!!

1Co:11:3: But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

In words you can understand, God is to man as man is to woman. Thus a husband must behave towards a wife as God would to towards a man. And how does God advise a man on the matter of chastisement?

Heb:12:6: For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
Heb:12:7: If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
Heb:12:8: But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
Heb:12:9: Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
Heb:12:10: For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.
Heb:12:11: Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.

And thus a man to his wife.

God said so.

[savinggraceless]

Re: When is it right to beat a woman?

1Co:11:3: But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

In words you can understand, God is to man as man is to woman. Thus a husband must behave towards a wife as God would to towards a man. And how does God advise a man on the matter of chastisement?


And thus a man to his wife.

God said so.

may I remind you that there is ONE mediator? Man is NOT the mediator between Christ and women.

[Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S.]

Re: When is it right to beat a woman?

Are you sure you're not *trying* to be difficult? Right in your quote is the evidence to the direct contrary of what you just said. Man is the mediator between the woman and God (Jesus), whereas Jesus is the mediator between a man and God the Father. It's right in the very verse you just quoted--I don't know how much more clear I can get, and the KJV1611 is about as clear as any book has ever been (obviously!)

[savinggraceless]

Re: When is it right to beat a woman?

The quoting of I Corinthians 11:3 was an accident.

Let me be more specific. I see a difference in man being the head of the woman and man being the Mediator.

Let me give you the full context of that passage:
I Corinthians 11:3-7
3But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. 4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonors his head. 5 But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, for that is one and the same as if her head were shaved. 6 For if a woman is not covered, let her also be shorn. But if it is shameful for a woman to be shorn or shaved, let her be covered. 7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. 8 For man is not from woman, but woman from man. 9 Nor was man created for the woman, but woman for the man. 10 For this reason the woman ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels.

A symbol of authority not man doing the mediating to Christ for her. Notice it is because of the angels NOT because of man.

[iamwus]

Re: When is it right to beat a woman?

1Co:11:3: But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

In words you can understand, God is to man as man is to woman. Thus a husband must behave towards a wife as God would to towards a man. And how does God advise a man on the matter of chastisement?

Heb:12:6: For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
Heb:12:7: If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
Heb:12:8: But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
Heb:12:9: Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
Heb:12:10: For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.
Heb:12:11: Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.

And thus a man to his wife.

God said so.

Beating your mate is not in those passages seams to me that man was being used loosely not man as you and i but man as in mankind, but whatever.This is a ludicrous reason to beat your wives/girlfriends if you were to make a mistake does your god smite u down at that very moment? NO he doesn't he gives you a chance to repent and u are punished if you do not(according to what the bible says). Why immediately punish some one without giving them a chance to apologize????????

[Brother Temperance]

Re: When is it right to beat a woman?

Any one hitting a female (other than disciplining a child) is a a weak willed individual and a coward! You sir disgust me!!!!!!!

So you think it's acceptable to beat a defenceless child, but not a woman who's old enough to look after herself? At what age does it stop becoming acceptable to use violence as a way of teaching a female a lesson?

Beating your mate is not in those passages seams to me that man was being used loosely not man as you and i but man as in mankind, but whatever.

Your brains is being used not at all. It is quite clearly talking about man in the sense of a male. That's why it mentions women as well.

This is a ludicrous reason to beat your wives/girlfriends if you were to make a mistake does your god smite u down at that very moment?

Sometimes.

NO he doesn't he gives you a chance to repent and u are punished if you do not(according to what the bible says). Why immediately punish some one without giving them a chance to apologize????????

So if they refuse to apologise for mis-cooking my steak, it then becomes acceptable to beat them? You seem a bit liberal, but I'm glad we agree on the core issues at stake (or at steak - I crack myself up sometimes) here.