[Andrew777]

Re: STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION

Sir, are you even a Christian? Are you being serious? These True Christians here are starting to doubt your sincerity. Don't waste the time of good God-fearing people.

Why should you cut off your testicles? Let me tell you:

First, you said it was the only way for you to be pure, just as it was the only way for me to be pure.

Then, God spoke to me, as he speaks to all godly eunuchs and True Christians and He said:

"This man will not enter through the gates of Heaven with his testes. If he is to enter Heaven he must be a eunuch."

The Lord spoke to you about ME ? How ?

[True Disciple]

Re: STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION

Then, God spoke to me, as he speaks to all godly eunuchs and True Christians and He said:

"This man will not enter through the gates of Heaven with his testes. If he is to enter Heaven he must be a eunuch."

The Lord has spoken.

I admire your zeal, Brother TPM, but you seem to have omitted Chapter and Verse here. Where in the Bible can I find this? It seems new to me.

[True Disciple]

Re: STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION

Please, forgive me , I'm so sorry.
But, why am I called to become eunuch ?
Many other got married. Why the Lord don't want to give me a wife ?

We can't say, friend, only God knows. But don't be too sad! Remember, Paul never married either, and look what he accomplished! Maybe God wants you to suffer for the preaching of the cross as well, while converting filthy heathens!

[Tea_Party_Minister]

Re: STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION

Sir, are you even a Christian? Are you being serious? These True Christians here are starting to doubt your sincerity. Don't waste the time of good God-fearing people.

Why should you cut off your testicles? Let me tell you:

First, you said it was the only way for you to be pure, just as it was the only way for me to be pure.

Then, God spoke to me, as he speaks to all godly eunuchs and True Christians and He said:

"This man will not enter through the gates of Heaven with his testes. If he is to enter Heaven he must be a eunuch."

The Lord has spoken.

No more excuses.

Get the job done, and move on with your life.

[Andrew777]

Re: STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION

Please, forgive me , I'm so sorry.
But, why am I called to become eunuch ?
Many other got married. Why the Lord don't want to give me a wife ?

[Tea_Party_Minister]

Re: STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION

...cutting myself with scissors or axe is nonsense. I am not crazy.

We are only trying to lead you down the Path to Salvation© with the Word of God. Are you saying God's Word is nonsense?

The Holy Bible (KJV) teaches us that castration is a way to be accepted into Heaven. Are you saying that God is crazy? Are you saying that Jesus is crazy? Are you saying that the Holy Bible (KJV) is crazy nonsense? Do you believe that you are smarter than God? Well if so, you are going to Hell. I am not judging you, but obviously, you are condemning yourself with your arrogance against God, and you know it.

I gave up my testes for Jesus and nothing has brought me closer to Him. I'm no longer tempted to masturbate, nor do I lust after women. I am finally free of sin. Cutting off your testicles is a sacrifice, but a worthy one for God's love and eternal salvation. God gave you His Son Jesus. Are you saying that your testicles are worth more than Jesus? Are you saying that God is supposed to let you into Heaven, even though you covet your testicles, in spite of His sacrificing His ONLY Son? Is that what you are saying? Do you grasp your testicles like a greedy sinner, unwilling to sacrifice them to the Lord for eternal life?

(Matthew 19:12) For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from [their] mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive [it], let him receive [it].

It is obvious to me and everyone who reads your posts, including God, that you are a coward and are unwilling to do what is necessary for entrance into heaven. I am not judging you, but you may have to choose between keeping your testosterone producing testes and going to Heaven. I've shown you how to do it, now grab those scissors and go at it, before you lose your nerve and are forever cursed with a life of impure thoughts that lead you into the devil's game of masturbation and eternal damnation. Don't you want to go to Heaven?

[True Disciple]

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This is the real sin. Judging others and pride are greater sins than masturbation or unclean thoughts.

Friend, you clearly don't know a thing about the Bible. We are allowed to judge others:

Leviticus 19:15:
Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

Leviticus 19:17:
Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

Psalm 37:30:
The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.

Proverbs 31:9:
Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.

Isaiah 1:17:
Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.

Isaiah 56:1:
Thus saith the LORD, Keep ye judgment, and do justice: for my salvation is near to come, and my righteousness to be revealed.

John 7:24:
Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

1 Corinthians 2:14-16:
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.

1 Corinthians 6:1-6:
Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.

1 Timothy 5:20:
Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

2 Timothy 4:1-5:
I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

Hebrews 3:12-13:
Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.

Hebrews 10:24-25:
And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

And we are allowed to boast a little about ourselves:

Isaiah 61:6:
But ye shall be named the Priests of the LORD: men shall call you the Ministers of our God: ye shall eat the riches of the Gentiles, and in their glory shall ye boast yourselves.

[wasd1984]

Re: STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION

Masturbation is the most disgusting sin. It is more sin in one:

1. Adulery: "That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart." (Matt. 5,28)
2. Murder: this is obvious. It is killing many unborn child.
3. Stealing: sexual pleasure is ONLY FOR MARRIED people.
4. Illegitimacy: I have no right to pleasure myself, because my body is not mine: "What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own." (1Cor 6,19)
5. Wasting: "when he [Onan] went in unto his brother"s wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother." (Genesis 38,9)
6. Rebellion: "The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife." Masturbator rebels against these "powers".

[Born Again Bob]

Re: STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION

Dear Brother,

You sound like a real nutter to me.

Of course! He doesn't want to be a eunuch!

Yours in Him,
BAB

[Larry Lee]

Re: STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION

No, not exactly. Since some years I think about remain unmarried, because I got to know Jesus, and I love him very verily.
This is fully voluntary to me, nobody forced me to do this.
Please sorry if I was not quite honest with "eunuch" thing.
But I was very curious, what do you think about these,

You are very radical, no doubt. You like judge other people who are not as same as you. If somebody think otherwise, you send them to Hell.

It is very good if you want to become holy, and you renounce from many thing, but you think you are God, and you judge others. This is the real sin. Judging others and pride are greater sins than masturbation or unclean thoughts.

So... remaining unmarried was not joke. But cutting myself with scissors or axe is nonsense. I am not crazy.

However I know the Matthew 5,30. But it is much better to resist sin, and keep the body parts.

Think about this. Judging others and Pride. These are not your body parts that lead you to sin ??
Cut off and throw away the Pride.

You sound like a real nutter to me.

[Andrew777]

Re: STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION

Dear Friend,

So, obviously, you never had any intention to become a eunuch. Is this a game to you? A joke?


BAB!

No, not exactly. Since some years I think about remain unmarried, because I got to know Jesus, and I love him very verily.
This is fully voluntary to me, nobody forced me to do this.
Please sorry if I was not quite honest with "eunuch" thing.
But I was very curious, what do you think about these,

You are very radical, no doubt. You like judge other people who are not as same as you. If somebody think otherwise, you send them to Hell.

It is very good if you want to become holy, and you renounce from many thing, but you think you are God, and you judge others. This is the real sin. Judging others and pride are greater sins than masturbation or unclean thoughts.

So... remaining unmarried was not joke. But cutting myself with scissors or axe is nonsense. I am not crazy.

However I know the Matthew 5,30. But it is much better to resist sin, and keep the body parts.

Think about this. Judging others and Pride. These are not your body parts that lead you to sin ??
Cut off and throw away the Pride.

[Born Again Bob]

Re: STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION

Dear Friend,

So, obviously, you never had any intention to become a eunuch. Is this a game to you? A joke?


BAB!

[Jesus is Lord]

Re: STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION

You are forgetting Matthew 5:30, Mark 9:43, and Matthew 19:12.

Are you 100% certain it is God that doesn't want you to marry? It could be Satan trying to keep you away from Jesus' Love. Below are but a few of The Bible verses that support marriage.

Ephesians 5:31 - For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.

Mark 10:6-9 - But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.
7For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;
8And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.
9What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

1 Corinthians 7:1-9 - Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

2Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

3Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.

4The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

5Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.

6But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.

7For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.

8I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, it is good for them if they abide even as I.

9But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

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Why are you all believe in your church you are Gods ??
Only God may decide who will go to Heaven or Hell.
If you say I have to castrate myself to go to Heaven, this doesn't have biblical base.

The Bible doesn't say you have to castrate yourself. Jesus merely recommends it and says it is a good thing.

Matthew 19:12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

Also you cherrypicked Romans 8 horribly. Keep reading it.

5For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

[Andrew777]

Re: STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION

No one is going to Hungary. You ask too much and make too many excuses.

I've given you all the instructions you need, young man. No go forth and do the Lord's bidding or burn forever in Hell.

Why are you all believe in your church you are Gods ??
Only God may decide who will go to Heaven or Hell.
If you say I have to castrate myself to go to Heaven, this doesn't have biblical base.
But I don't fear you. I know the truth from Jesus's words, let me show you:

John 5,24: "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. "

You think I can buy my everlasting life with castration. But look:
Rome 4,4-5: "Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness."

Rome 4,25: "Who [Jesus] was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification."
continue to Rome 5,1-2: Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

And if you dare to tell me that I'm going to Hell. My answer:
Rome 8,1 "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit."

Rome 5,19: "For as by one man"s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous."

I go to Heaven not because I am good and pure. I go to Heaven because JESUS is pure, good and obedient to God.

Do you understand me ?? I wrote only some word from the Bible and I can write much more.
You and your church HAS NO RIGHT to judge anyone who is not as you.
You are boast, because you did many good think and you think, you can deserve the Heaven.

Ephesians 2,8-9: "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast."

BELIEVING in Jesus is the only way to Heaven, not castration or any other good acts.

And ... Think about this: Are you believe in Jesus or you believe in your good acts ??
When you will stand at the gates of Heaven (after you die), and God will ask you: Why may I let you enter ??
What will you answer ?? "because of my many good acts" ??
Remember: There is not any good acts that with you can deserve to enter.
The only way is this: "But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness"
And believe in Jesus's cross.

... waiting for your answer, brother ...