[SUV]

Re: Why are veterans such a bunch of no-good drunks?

And then how about these disordered, disgruntled sissies running around shooting up our schools and post offices?

Maybe they should all be quarantined just as soon as they come back from overseas!

[One-eyed Jack]

Re: Why are veterans such a bunch of no-good drunks?

Frosty, the men and women who fought and are still fighting for America's Christian right to Iraq's oilfields are brave beyond measure. They have had immense effect on terrorism: without their efforts Halliburton would not have felt safe enough to move its corporate headquarters to Dubai, for instance.

Thank God our brave soldiers are willing to fight for Christian corporations like Halliburton.

But when they come back after fighting America's oil war they should realize that they are back in God's country, where Christian millionaires and not army veterans are the rulers. Do you find scripture saying that Moses gave the wounded among his men extra Midianite child-virgins to deflower? Or that David favored amputees with special bonus packages and free prosthetics? Or that after the terrible battle at Gibeah the soldiers of the Ten Tribes received special counseling for hacking their Benjaminite brothers to pieces on the blood-soaked plains?

Not a bit of it. The Biblical soldiers' way is: you fight, you suffer, you shut up about it.

That is what George Bush has tried to do. He tried his best to ignore the flag-draped coffins of the fallen. He tried his best to ignore the roach-infested, moldy-walled hospitals where the wounded were sent. It is the Christian way: soldiers fight, soldiers suffer, but the rulers -- King David, Saul, Exxon-Mobil, and Dick Cheney -- get all the benefits.

Don't be fooled, Frosty. In the eyes of the American government, what you are advocating reeks of socialism and namby-pamby liberalism.

~~ OEJ

[frosty]

Re: Why are veterans such a bunch of no-good drunks?

Frosty, the men and women who fought and are still fighting for America's Christian right to Iraq's oilfields are brave beyond measure. They have had immense effect on terrorism: without their efforts Halliburton would not have felt safe enough to move its corporate headquarters to Dubai, for instance.

Thank God our brave soldiers are willing to fight for Christian corporations like Halliburton.

But when they come back after fighting America's oil war they should realize that they are back in God's country, where Christian millionaires and not army veterans are the rulers. Do you find scripture saying that Moses gave the wounded among his men extra Midianite child-virgins to deflower? Or that David favored amputees with special bonus packages and free prosthetics? Or that after the terrible battle at Gibeah the soldiers of the Ten Tribes received special counseling for hacking their Benjaminite brothers to pieces on the blood-soaked plains?

Not a bit of it. The Biblical soldiers' way is: you fight, you suffer, you shut up about it.

That is what George Bush has tried to do. He tried his best to ignore the flag-draped coffins of the fallen. He tried his best to ignore the roach-infested, moldy-walled hospitals where the wounded were sent. It is the Christian way: soldiers fight, soldiers suffer, but the rulers -- King David, Saul, Exxon-Mobil, and Dick Cheney -- get all the benefits.

Don't be fooled, Frosty. In the eyes of the American government, what you are advocating reeks of socialism and namby-pamby liberalism.

~~ OEJ

Ok I am going to do some study on what you just said,,, First I am going to say, if you are so rich , then some of your money should be going for good causes,, Like our VETERANS,, our Hungry living in the street,, trust me some of those people, Families really didnt need or want to be there,It happenes to good God Fearing people and for those of us that have it a little better, I think and so does a lot of other people,you should lend a helping hand,, give some of it to a soup kitchen,, give some to goodwill,, Stand on the street give out a hundred to a couple that passes you by,, I think you heart would be so full of joy,, helping someone out,, a stranger,, after all I do belive that is What our Jesus would do

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Why are veterans such a bunch of no-good drunks?

Ok I am going to do some study on what you just said,,, First I am going to say, if you are so rich , then some of your money should be going for good causes,, Like our VETERANS,, our Hungry living in the street,, trust me some of those people, Families really didnt need or want to be there,It happenes to good God Fearing people and for those of us that have it a little better, I think and so does a lot of other people,you should lend a helping hand,, give some of it to a soup kitchen,, give some to goodwill,, Stand on the street give out a hundred to a couple that passes you by,, I think you heart would be so full of joy,, helping someone out,, a stranger,, after all I do belive that is What our Jesus would do

Frosty,

We want to horner these people. Not humiliate them by turning them into your slaves. Anybody who accepts a hand out from another person is that other persons slaves. Any decent man would rather die, alone and in agony in a filthy gutter than be a slave. By turning a discrete blind eye to veterans problems I am showing them respect they earned as freemen.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: Why are veterans such a bunch of no-good drunks?

helping someone out,, a stranger,, after all I do belive that is What our Jesus would do

Oh really? You need to stop imagining what you think Jesus would do, and start reading your Bible to learn for sure.


Mark 14:3-9
3 And being in Bethany in the house of Simon the leper, as he sat at meat, there came a woman having an alabaster box of ointment of spikenard very precious; and she brake the box, and poured it on his head. 4 And there were some that had indignation within themselves, and said, Why was this waste of the ointment made?
5 For it might have been sold for more than three hundred pence, and have been given to the poor. And they murmured against her.
6 And Jesus said, Let her alone; why trouble ye her? she hath wrought a good work on me.
7 For ye have the poor with you always, and whensoever ye will ye may do them good: but me ye have not always.
8 She hath done what she could: she is come aforehand to anoint my body to the burying.
9 Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached throughout the whole world, this also that she hath done shall be spoken of for a memorial of her.

A woman anointed Jesus with some very expensive ointment. The disciples were aghast. They thought the ointment should have been sold, and the money used to help the poor. Jesus knew He would be leaving soon, so it was more important to give people the opportunity to show Him respect. If they want to make themselves feel good by throwing money at poor people, then there will always be poor people, so there's no urgency.

Praising Jesus and sharing the Gospel are more important than giving money to the poor. Besides, when you give money to the poor, you aren't helping them -- you are hurting them by enabling them to remain poor.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[SUV]

Re: Why are veterans such a bunch of no-good drunks?

My GOD, Good Pastors, is this one still blathering on about veterans?

How sick. Maybe he's been watching Michael Bore's Sicko - Guaranteed™ to make any Decent American sick

[frosty]

Re: Why are veterans such a bunch of no-good drunks?

My GOD, Good Pastors, is this one still blathering on about veterans?

How sick. Maybe he's been watching Michael Bore's Sicko - Guaranteed™ to make any Decent American sick

Excuse me, I am a woman.....

[frosty]

Re: Why are veterans such a bunch of no-good drunks?

Frosty,

We want to horner these people. Not humiliate them by turning them into your slaves. Anybody who accepts a hand out from another person is that other persons slaves. Any decent man would rather die, alone and in agony in a filthy gutter than be a slave. By turning a discrete blind eye to veterans problems I am showing them respect they earned as freemen.

I am very blessed to not be like you < I am so Thankful for My Church,,and the things it has taught me. No it does not make them our slave. It is lending a helping hand, I am Taking this to my Church, I am sure they will confirm My fears, as to what you say and do ,, this Website is something we should censor,, I have NEVER NEVER meet anyone that is this cold hearted.. And I have meet some real jems,,, I wish you well I wish you Church well... And I will Pray for you that you will see how cold hearted you are,,,,, PEACE

[Nobar King]

Re: Why are veterans such a bunch of no-good drunks?

Hi, frosty, I'm not really interested in reading your post, but for fun let's count the commas: 17! WOW! Are you slipping into a coma?

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Why are veterans such a bunch of no-good drunks?

I am very blessed to not be like you < I am so Thankful for My Church,,and the things it has taught me. No it does not make them our slave. It is lending a helping hand, I am Taking this to my Church, I am sure they will confirm My fears, as to what you say and do ,, this Website is something we should censor,, I have NEVER NEVER meet anyone that is this cold hearted.. And I have meet some real jems,,, I wish you well I wish you Church well... And I will Pray for you that you will see how cold hearted you are,,,,, PEACE

Frosty,
I do hope you come back, apparently you are a woman with a sticking comma key who can read and that’s always interesting.

One of the reasons for rightly criticizing the wounded in limb and mind, is the thought that even were it to become practice to grant unfeasibly large sums of money and care to each one, it would not be a good thing.

Our troops are highly trained at great cost. The lessons of the training are hard learned and not to be forgotten. Anyone fighting God’s and America’s war needs to carry out that training. Fail to carry it out and the result is “wounded in limb and mind.”

So you see, by pandering to the lieberal, tree-huggers and handing out millions of dollars, the troops might think that it is OK to forget training and they will come back wounded as a result. We don’t want this.

Such misplaced compassion tacitly condones troops forgetting their training, disobeying orders and thus being wounded – this is the true tragedy.

No one wants wounded soldiers – are you surprised that we and President Bush, advocate a “light-touch” when it comes to support and compassion? This minimalism in care is for the good of the men, the good of the war, the good of America and The Glory of God. It encourages learning and obedience.

And back to the very first post, What do you think some soldier was doing shooting fishermen in the desert – clearly disobeying orders, ignoring training and as a result, he had only himself to blame – he had let down you, me, all of America and God. He was probably simply rightly ashamed of his neglecting his duty.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Why are veterans such a bunch of no-good drunks?

The bottom line is this: The TRULY Godly Christian troops are protected by Christ's Grace. They go where GWB sends them, dispatch the sand nigras who have the poor judgment to be in front of one or more of their Divinely-guided bullets, and then come home to step back into their old jobs the next day.

The rest are unsaved trash who had no business coming home alive in the first place. Whining is a sure sign that you've rejected Christ.

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: Why are veterans such a bunch of no-good drunks?

I am very blessed to not be like you < I am so Thankful for My Church,,and the things it has taught me. No it does not make them our slave. It is lending a helping hand, I am Taking this to my Church, I am sure they will confirm My fears,

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine;
But after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
2 Timothy 4:3-4

[One-eyed Jack]

Re: Why are veterans such a bunch of no-good drunks?

Just to be clear, Frosty, I am not rich. When I referred to Christian millionaires I was referring to people like Dick Cheney, Pat Robertson, and George Bush. America is a Christian capitalist nation, and our soldiers have the honor of dying for the interests of the Christian moneyed class (even though most of the soldiers are from the lower middle class and the working poor).

Just as an exercise, you might Google the number of US senators and congressmen who have had sons or daughters killed in Iraq.

Either the killing in Iraq is sanctioned by God Himself (as He sanctioned the genocide against the Amelakites and Midianites) or it is contrary to the Commandments (thou shalt not kill).

I can't see any middle ground.

If this is a war sanctioned by the Almighty, then we might as well get on the ball and just kill the Iraqis. None of this pussyfooting around and trying to limit civilian casualties. Kill them all, as the Biblical leaders under God killed their enemies, and leave none that pisseth against a wall.

And it came to pass, when he began to reign, as soon as he sat on his throne, that he slew all the house of Baasha: he left him not one that pisseth againstwall, neither of his kinsfolks, nor of his friends. 1 Kings 16:11

Either we should kill them all, because God sanctions it, or we should apologize, humble ourselves for sinning, and leave Iraq.

~~ OEJ

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Re: Why are veterans such a bunch of no-good drunks?

This is Mr. Joseph Whitford here. Normally I let my wife do her witnessing here because it keeps her out of my hair while I go over the books with Bernard, but I heard about this frosted gal and I just had to say something while I've got Mrs. Whitford scrubbing our bathroom floor with a toothbrush.
Frosted, sweetheart, it seems to me like you're trying to promote communism here. Our boys are doing a fabulous job in the Middle East, but they are fighting for the AMERICAN way of life, not the Cuban or Chinese! If we're going to honor their service, the last thing they'd want is a redistribution of wealth so that the hard workers workers of this mighty nation are forced to support the lazy, whether they're illegals, Nigras, or the occasional whining legless cripple!
I'm going to pray for your soul, darling, and I hope you get right with God. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go check on the wife's progress with that floor.

[bung79]

Re: Why are veterans such a bunch of no-good drunks?

Just watched a show called "intervention" on A&E. About some kid from the hip-hop generation who went to Iraq. Good start, but then, for some reason, he didn't stay there. He says he's "tramatized" because he shot a "fisherman". Um, HELLO, there's no fishermen in the desert, obviously it was a top Al-Queda leader. Anyway, instead of staying there for 100 years, as McCain wants, he came home, and became a useless, car-crashing, pot-headed drunk.

I've had it up to here with with "PTSD" nonsense they're using as an excuse for being worthless drunks. What do you think it stands for?

"Post-Swallowing-Tequila's Disorder"?

"Pot-Smoking-Teenage-Democrats?"

"P*ssies-Sh*tfaced&-Totally-Drunk"

Now don't get me wrong, I'd be a war veteran too if it were'nt for my cyst and my having other priorities during Vietnam. But I'd never use this "PTSD" excuse to be drunk and stoned all the time. Never.

You piece of worthless fucking scum. You love this idea of invading Iraq (and any country America can get it's hands on) but yet you dare to criticise the soldiers that are on the front line? You admit you've never been to war so what gives you the right to tell us how returning soldiers should think and feel. You worthless piece of shit!