[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

May I ask, have you actually played this game? Also, the matter of fact is the game is not designed for kids, and if parents dont want their kids playing it, they should monitor their activity more.

If my kids are doing something I don't like that just means I have to hit them harder.

Proverbs 13:24 "He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes."

[I'm just a naughty boy]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

No, just like with beer, kids get their hands on stuff without permission. A lot of kids at 25 should not be playing this filth. Actually, nobody should there is absolutely no redeeming value in it.

Your bad attitude is very upsetting.

May I ask, have you actually played this game? Also, the matter of fact is the game is not designed for kids, and if parents dont want their kids playing it, they should monitor their activity more.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

76% of americans are christian

Unfortunately less of them are True Christians. Many only pretend to be Christians but in reality are Catholics or other sinners. A lot of people need to be saved for they do not really worship our LORD Jesus Christ.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Yeah, but if you look closely, it has a little sticker saying "M-17", which means it should only be played by adults over 17, so if any kids play this, their parents are to blame, not the game.

No, just like with beer, kids get their hands on stuff without permission. A lot of kids at 25 should not be playing this filth. Actually, nobody should there is absolutely no redeeming value in it.

Your bad attitude is very upsetting.

[I'm just a naughty boy]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Brothers and sisters in Christ,

It has come to my attention through the recent hoopla of the "Oblivion" thread that the same company has created an equally disturbing game called Fallout 3. Without a doubt, the people at Bethesda Softworks (creators of Oblivion and Fallout 3) seem intent on corrupting our youth with introducing anti-Biblical concepts, violence, sexuality, and law-breaking. I have just reviewed the game, and I will now provide a fair and balanced assessment of this poor excuse for a "game".



The setting takes place in and around Washington D.C. after a nuclear war. I might as well open by saying the only good thing that this game offers is that it rightly attributes communism to destruction. In the game's story, China has launched nuclear strikes and destroyed America. While this is much applauded (not the destruction of America, but showing that Communists are evil people), that is where the positive nature of this game ends. Here are just some brief tidbits about what this game contains...

• It is extremely violent. It features various types of sub-machine guns, nuclear weapons, rocket launchers, knives, flamethrowers, various melee weapons, and other instruments of destruction. You can't play this game without killing hundreds of people.
• There is a lot of cursing in this game, with the A-word, S-word, and F-word.
• There is a "perk", if you want to call it that, called "Bloody Mess" which makes killing people even more graphic and gruesome. Your enemies explode in a mess of blood and guts.
• There is another "perk" called Mister Sandman that allows you to kill innocent people in their sleep.
• The worst "perk" of all is the aptly-named Cannibal that allows you to literally devour corpses. I'm not making this up!
• There are quests where you are assigned to kill people. One is even so blatantly called "You gotta shoot 'em in the head" where you are told to do just so.
• You can blow up an innocent town with an atom bomb. After obliverating these people, you are rewarded with money and a place to stay. What kind of message is this giving our children?
• There is prostitution in the game. If you go to a place called Moriarty's Bar, there is a woman who offers to fornicate with you for a price. The player is able to have sexual relations with this woman.
  1st Timothy 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
• You can pretty much kill whoever you want, even good guys. The game makes no consequence for your actions. At most, you have to leave a town for three days, but it allows teenagers to live out "spree killer" and "school shooting" fantasies.
• The player can create their own homemade weapons like a "dart gun" and "bottlecap mine" which encourage domestic terrorist activities. How many kids might be inspired to make their own pipe bombs after playing this game?
• There are beings called "ghouls", which appear to be some kind of zombie demon out of a horror movie. While many ghouls are bad, some are considered "good guys".
• It quotes the Bible out of context. One of the recurring themes revolves around Revelations 21:6..."And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely." However instead of pointing out that this verse revolves around the Lord and that He alone can provide eternal life, this game misconstrues it and takes it to mean that we can make water-purifying systems. It is a mockery of the Bible!
• There is a group of misbehaving brats in a town called Little Lamplight. They do anything they want and disrespect adults. There is nothing in the game that can correct this behavior even though the Bible tells us how to deal with such rebellious imps: Proverbs 13:24 "He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes." Nowhere in the game can you punish these children for their behavior. It tells kids they can act however they want with impugnity.
• You are able to pick locks and it's a skill. You can basically break into other people's doors, safes, and other secure places and steal what you want at whim.
• It also promotes Computer Hacking. Through the skill "Computers", the player can hack another person's private computer, even though hacking is a federal crime.
• Alcohol is available in this game through such forms as whiskey.
• Drug use is promoted. There is a syringe called "Med X" (Heroin), a drug called "Psycho" (Methamphetamine) and "Buffout" (Steroids). Taking these drugs makes you a stronger player, so drugs are encouraged in this game. Even though you can get addicted to the drugs, you can always just see a doctor to cure the addiction. Nowhere in this game is there any Christian pastor to help you overcome addiction through faith in Jesus Christ. Nowhere!
• There is a false, heretical religion called "The Church of Atom". They believes that an atom bomb is a god or something. This may lead players to believe in this bizarre cult. Isaiah 42:8 "I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images."
• The only other church is called "St. Monica's Church". We know Catholics aren't really Christians and this game pushes Catholicism onto players instead of Baptists who believe in the 1611 KJV Bible.

I could go on and on, but I think you can realize what this whole game is about. There are no redeeming qualities in this game, no exhortation of Christian values, but just stuff that would make Satan happy. It should come as no surprise that this game is very popular and many Oblivion players also play this game as well.

Any True Christian™ parent would not want this game around their children. It is an evil influence. Paul warns us to seperate ourselves from such iniquity...



Indeed this game is truly an unfruitful work of darkness. You cannot be a Christian and play this game since you are going against the Bible, as I have shown in the above quotes.

Friends, in my last post warning about the dangers of Oblivion, I advocated taking a stand against the stores selling that demonic game, but I feel considering Bethesda has been putting out multiple games, the only rational stand is to call for the end of Bethesda Softworks. These people should be held accountable to the law (both God's and secular) and should not be able to produce video games anymore. I encourage every Bible-believing True Christian™ reading this to let your congressman know about what is going on in this Satanic organization. Bethesda feels they can put out these sinful games at their own will, but they must be stopped.

I will pray that our cause will prevail. I will pray that the Lord will put Bethesda Softworks out of business. I will pray that these criminals serve time behind bars for corrupting our youth. In Jesus' name, I pray.

Yours in Christ,
Rev. Jim Osborne

Enclosed is a screenshot of this game.

Yeah, but if you look closely, it has a little sticker saying "M-17", which means it should only be played by adults over 17, so if any kids play this, their parents are to blame, not the game.

[michele]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Get your facts straight. The murders caused by video games are much higher.

Fact: 72% of Americans play video games.
Fact: There were11,149,927 crimes in 2008, from murder, rape, assault, robbery, etc.
Fact: There 16,272 murders in 2008.

That means 72% of criminals have played video games, which comes out to over 8 million crimes. 11,715 murders have been committed by people who have played video games in 2008 alone!

Keep in mind this is the conservative estimate, since probably about 90% or more criminals play video games, but for fairness I am using the general population statistic.

Obviously not all people who play video games will do crimes, but it definitely increases the likelihood of them doing so.

going by your stats that if 72% of americans play games and therfore 72% of criminals played computer games.

76% of americans are christian so that must mean that all those crimes you mentioned at least 76% of them were christian

[GOD=life]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

and your mindset (try a comma?) god=life is if they dont agree with you then they dont exist and they can burn in hell. is that really how you want to be viewed? as someone who cant even open his mind to others? poor poor man. i pity you

If you bothered to read this thread, you would see that I both acknowledge and respond to people who don't agree with me.

Secondly, I do not want you to burn in Hell. I want you to be saved so that you can be in Heaven too. If you like, we can play non-violent games in Heaven together. I hear the graphics are much better than a PS3

Thirdly, I have no trouble considering the viewpoints of others, as long as those are intelligent. Do you seriously consider arguments like "you are a retard" to be part of rational discourse between two intellectual equals?

Finally, I only care about how God views me, which is only logical as this is a Christian forum after all. I express Christian views on a Christian forum.

[michele]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

and your mindset god=life is if they dont agree with you then they dont exist and they can burn in hell. is that really how you want to be viewed? as someone who cant even open his mind to others? poor poor man. i pity you

[michele]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Get your facts straight. The murders caused by video games are much higher.

Fact: 72% of Americans play video games.
Fact: There were11,149,927 crimes in 2008, from murder, rape, assault, robbery, etc.
Fact: There 16,272 murders in 2008.

That means 72% of criminals have played video games, which comes out to over 8 million crimes. 11,715 murders have been committed by people who have played video games in 2008 alone!

Keep in mind this is the conservative estimate, since probably about 90% or more criminals play video games, but for fairness I am using the general population statistic.

Obviously not all people who play video games will do crimes, but it definitely increases the likelihood of them doing so.

you stats are two completely different stats you've put together to form your own conclusions.

please read the following research and articles. they contain information and graphs from the department of justice and their OFFICIAL crime figures:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/05/080514213432.htm

http://news.mmosite.com/content/2009-08-02/20090802235844493.shtml

http://www.gamerevolution.com/features/violence_and_videogames

http://www.gamepolitics.com/2008/04/12/comparing-violent-crime-to-violent-game-releases

if you wish to argue these figures then take it up with th police

[GOD=life]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Excellent factual analysis, Reverend!

Obviously not all people who play video games will do crimes, but it definitely increases the likelihood of them doing so.

The only reason is because secular laws offer good deterrents.

Look no further than the behavior of this admitted "avid gamer". The instant people don't change their religion on the spot (quite a tall order, no matter what your religion is), he becomes aggressive and verbally abusive. In fact, he is unable to articulate his thoughts without cussing and swearing.

His mindset is "shoot opponent, ask questions after molesting corpse".

Do we really want to rot the brains of an entire generation like this?

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

FACT over 3 billion video games (on all consoles) are sold each year!
FACT there are 10-20 CONFIRMED cases of people who have commited a crime due to the influence of a video game.

Get your facts straight. The murders caused by video games are much higher.

Fact: 72% of Americans play video games.
Fact: There were11,149,927 crimes in 2008, from murder, rape, assault, robbery, etc.
Fact: There 16,272 murders in 2008.

That means 72% of criminals have played video games, which comes out to over 8 million crimes. 11,715 murders have been committed by people who have played video games in 2008 alone!

Keep in mind this is the conservative estimate, since probably about 90% or more criminals play video games, but for fairness I am using the general population statistic.

Obviously not all people who play video games will do crimes, but it definitely increases the likelihood of them doing so.

[GOD=life]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Im sure Ill be booted from this forum because Im not God worshipping faith pushing retard lemming like the rest of you, ...mormons ... Your idiocy

Right, because who would ever want to ban such a civilized and respectful gentleman like you?

I am aware that video games have warped your mind and you are used to frequenting forums where swearing is the norm, but can you really not see any reason why your conduct on a Christian forum is out of line?

[thecreed]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

taken directly from you pastor Ezekiel

Who Will Jesus Damn?

Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)


That pretty much rules out any idiot on this site. youre all screwed. espcially you pastort Ezekiel, you uneducated POS.

[thecreed]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

You have received an infraction at The Landover Baptist Church Forums

Great because I have a mind and spoke my option you give me an infraction for going "yappity yappity yap yap." Brilliant, glad to see your church is run by such a cunning linguist. Idiot. I think who ever said this site is run by children may be right because Im sure a real adult wouldnt be so base.

As for columbine say what you want video games had ntohing to do with it. They should have been taken care of by their parents and their teachers. Would have solved the whole thing.

As for the rest of you, grow a sense of individuality. Im sure Ill be booted from this forum because Im not God worshipping faith pushing retard lemming like the rest of you, but seriously you morons should listen to what is coming out of your mouths. Your idiocy astounds me. I have been playing violent video games since I was a child, Did you see my high school on TV for a mass murder and then suicide? No. Because my parents gave a damn about me, and when I got bullied it was taken care of.

So much for you "Christians" practicing what you preach huh? I know mormons more tolerant the you. People like you are the reason I dont believe in God. And whlie I dont force it upon you it always seems to be the other way around. So continue to to be ignorant and arrogant because you cant help it. I hope there is a nuclear holocaust because you genius' would last so long with your faith and reservations im sure. So keep it up. What you say about your morals changes when its die or survive. you wont see me again because your "leader" and i use the term loosely, will remove me for actually being educated and opinionated, and not kept in the dark and spoon fed your religious bullshit.

[GOD=life]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Hello, I am avid gamer, whilst i dont follow any faith

Good to see you have your priorities in order...

post apocalyptical world. laws dont exsist and there are mutants and and raiders abundant.

That is exactly what a world without God would look like. Is that what you want?

Video games did not cause Columbine.

http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=video+games+caused+columbine