[Gogs=Life]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

The only truthful Bible is KJV 1611. If you have been exposed to anything else, then it's no wonder you hold such a dim view of Christians.


We don't really care about the specific technique you use. Maybe you are a top or a bottom... it is sinful either way.

Catholic by any chance? Catholics are not Christian. LBC is the only Christian Church.

KJV 1611? Okay I guess I'll have to go a read that one then although I can't quite figure how something that has been diluted by re-writing for the previous 1611 years can be classed as accurate. I would particularly highlight that the skill of translation is those years would leave a lot to be desired. Now if you had a direct translation of the original bible... now that I would see as the authoritative version.

I don't use an homosexual technique but I'm tolerant towards those that do.

If LBC is the only Christian Church you better put in for some planning permission to extend the building, as obviously all those other churches will be losing their flocks soon.

And can I just say to Talitha, who I'm sure is a very nice lady, that giving me 100 infraction points (is it like Xbox Gamer Points?) for what is obviously an ironic imitation of posts that a number of you christians have posted is not really very forgiving. I am no way a "a racist homophobic intolerant bigot"

[Nobar King]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

the columbine disaster they boys were bowling before they decided to go and slaughter a school but i dont think anyone has tried to bad mouth that for causing violence yet have they ?

I'd like to point out that the 'bowling' concept was introduced by Roger Moore as the title to his movie Bowling for Columbine. It wasn't meant to insinuate that the kids went on their rampage due to the influence of bowling.

[Sjobbe]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

It's a small step from shooting someone in a video game to shooting your classmates in real life.

Do you actually realize what it takes to shoot another person in real life?

In a video-game you press a button and a CHARACTER dies. It is as simple as that. And believe it or not, todays games are not realistic enough to cause normal persons to kill anyone in real life.

The fact that you are using "small step" makes your whole statement absurd.

Persons with mental instability might take get the wrong picture from games. But that can be any game, even the game "Pong". But to blame the game for another persons action is wrong. It might be a trigger for his actions, but anything can trigger a mental unstable person, for example a movie, tv-show. The list is long.

Back to your "small step" now. From pressing one button on your keyboard while playing a game, to actually have the courage(yes it takes courage to ends another persons life), to be able to lock out all the consequences of your action, pull the trigger/cut another persons throat however you choose to end another persons life is not as easy as you assume. My vision of your "small step" is bigger than that.

A mental stable, normal person, would not be able to do this because of a video-game. But all your Christians seems like weirdos. Every single one of you should stay away from video-games and stay inside your primitive bubble called life. It is 2010 now by the way.

[James Dewitt]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Sjobbe, Please go to the introduction forum and start a thread, I am sure all my brothers and sisters would love to get to know you.

[michele]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

i'd like to point out some cold hard FACT and share some actual experience

FACT over 3 billion video games (on all consoles) are sold each year!
FACT there are 10-20 CONFIRMED cases of people who have commited a crime due to the influence of a video game.

that to me shows that there is an very extreme minority that already have violent tendencys and could or have been influenced by games.

i once knew someone who was a heroine addict (i have never even seen the stuff myself). do you know how he managed to come off it? he stayed in day in day out with withdrawal symptoms, playing a playstation...... is that really evil? The playstation console he was playing effectivley saved his life.

i myself have played video games since i was 7 (i am now 23 nearly) i have enjoyed every minute of it. i have not been in one fight. i am quite the reserved type, generally keep my thoughts to myself and am curtious to all of man and the animal kingdom (i am a bit scared of spiders though) and i am hardly ever angry. i have never thought about killing anyone or anything.

now i quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob4God
I feel that I could contribute to this conversation. Now I'm not one to play the video games, but I do own a gun store.

Day in and day out, I see all kinds of customers, from fathers bringing their little boys in to buy them their very first hand guns, to hunters looking for armor piercing rounds, to Landover Church Security always browsing for the latest in Christian self-defense.

You know what they all have in common? They are all decent white Christian folks. None of them are looking for trouble, they are all trustworthy individuals.

There's nothing dangerous about a gun store. Guns don't inspire people to go on murderous rampages. Video games do. If you want to feel scared, take a stroll through your local computer store, and look at all the diabolical, satanic games that are being marketed towards our children!

Which makes YOU feel more frightened? The fact that there are millions of trustworthy white gun owners who enjoy hunting and occasionally showing off with guns (which is wrong because it is prideful), or the fact that any kid can walk into Wal-Mart and buy any murder simulator he wants, that will teach him how to kill indiscriminately, use drugs, hire prostitutes and disrespect authority?

What kind of twisted mind enjoys sitting in front of a screen shooting at cartoon characters when he could be out in nature gunning down rabbits, dear, raccoons, and other types of pests?

if you honestly think its fun to go out and shoot animals for pleasure then your the sick one.

how would you like it if all the animals gained a bit of IQ and came and shot you for fun?

buisness wouldnt be good would it?

i'd like to pay with acorns please!

we dont take acorns here...

well you do now!

[Noah Dint]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

i myself have played video games since i was 7 (i am now 23 nearly) i have enjoyed every minute of it.

Michael - is that why you can't punctuate or capitalize your words?

Would video games be the reason that you can't follow the most basic of steps posted on this site?

Are you so used to just jumping into a group game that a proper introduction in the introductions area AS REQUIRED ON THIS BOARD is just not necessary for you because you deem yourself as "special"?

Are the 16 years of video games you have played responsible for you quoting a source improperly here and creating a post that is very confusing?

You claim to be the expert so tell us all about it...

-ND

[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Michael, so if only 10~20 are killed each year due to video games, such a small number as to be of no consequence, would you mind if they started with your family first?

[michele]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Did I say it’s of no consequence? Did you even read my post? Can you read? I am a little saddened that a true Christian would wish death upon anyone...

My statistics are fact and can be found by anyone on the internet at any time. I was not saying that the amount of deaths is insignificant. Someone in an earlier post said that science has proven that games cause violence. Show me some statistics! Oh no wait I have some statistics that show other wise..... Isn’t that good

I am not trying for punctuation. I’m in a forum. I’m not writing a novel.

I do not deem myself to be special (although apparently you do) but I will introduce myself in the introduction thread.

There were many many deaths and murders that occurred before games came out. e.g. WW1 and WW2, Vietnam, civil war, jack the ripper, Hitler, the list goes on and on and on. There’s over 2000 years of history that shows man is a violent race with a tendency for violence. If that isn’t evidence enough of mans destructive power I don’t know what is.

I notice no one made a comment on the heroine addict who quit drugs through will power and a playstation...

[GOD=life]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

I am a little saddened that a true Christian would wish death upon anyone...

That is like being saddened that the weather man wishes rain upon people...

Oh no wait I have some statistics that show other wise.....

You can use statistics to "prove" anything. It's not an argument. Never head of the saying "There are lies, damn lies and statistics"?

There’s over 2000 years of history that shows man is a violent race with a tendency for violence.

So you acknowledge that man has a propensity for violence and yet you want to give them murder simulators? It doesn't add up. Are you honestly telling me that acting out fantasies where you cut corpses with chainsaws leave you completely unaffected?

[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Micheal, Micheal, Micheal. Youth is in such a rush to grow up that they fail to take the time to comprehend the world around them.
Of course we wish death on no Christian, do not be ridiculous. But according to you, these devil games do incite a few murders that otherwise would not happen. You state these murders are insignificant. I questioned that by asking what if the victims were your family.

Micheal, if we can save a single life, is that not good? Is not all life precious and valued above anything else?

That person who was on heroin gave up one nasty addiction for another nasty addiction. Same bus, different route.

[michele]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

please spell my name correctly.

i have not said that these deaths are insignificant. please read my posts properly please before you comment, as blatently the last few posts from yourself james hutchins you have not quoted me correctly.

and yes all life is precious. so why do people fight wars? why do people murder each other? not because of a video game or two. how about oil? boundries? religion? money? poverty?

james hutchins. you said: if we can save a single life, is that not good? Is not all life precious and valued above anything else?

yes it is precious. all life. but there are so many other contributing factors other than games. like the fact that in america guns are as readily available as bread and milk. or the fact that 2 countries have a 1000 year old grudge and when they see each other the react violently. or the fact that that homeless man over there hasnt eaten in 2 weeks and is desperate enough to mug an old lady.

in actuallity games probably contribute to around 0.00001% of all murders and acts of violence.

and yes i have played games where you cut people up but i have never been affected. i have no criminal record. i have never been in a fight. i have never hurt anyone intentionally.

and i hear what your saying about if we can stop one person from being killed by this then isnt that good?

yes it is. BUT there are so many other deaths and murders in the world that happen for so many reasons that have nothing to do with games its surreal.

i think you all need to focus your attentons elsewhere. like i do. for example i get involved with helping to stop knife crime and i help at the local youth centre.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

please spell my name correctly.

i have not said that these deaths are insignificant. please read my posts properly please before you comment, as blatently the last few posts from yourself james hutchins you have not quoted me correctly.

and yes all life is precious. so why do people fight wars? why do people murder each other? not because of a video game or two. how about oil? boundries? religion? money? poverty?

james hutchins. you said: if we can save a single life, is that not good? Is not all life precious and valued above anything else?

yes it is precious. all life. but there are so many other contributing factors other than games. like the fact that in america guns are as readily available as bread and milk. or the fact that 2 countries have a 1000 year old grudge and when they see each other the react violently. or the fact that that homeless man over there hasnt eaten in 2 weeks and is desperate enough to mug an old lady.

in actuallity games probably contribute to around 0.00001% of all murders and acts of violence.

and yes i have played games where you cut people up but i have never been affected. i have no criminal record. i have never been in a fight. i have never hurt anyone intentionally.

and i hear what your saying about if we can stop one person from being killed by this then isnt that good?

yes it is. BUT there are so many other deaths and murders in the world that happen for so many reasons that have nothing to do with games its surreal.

i think you all need to focus your attentons elsewhere. like i do. for example i get involved with helping to stop knife crime and i help at the local youth centre.

Sorry for getting your name wrong. I would think as a woman, you above all would be 100% anti-murder as life is gestated in your womb.

I do take offense to your accusation of a lack of comprehension on my part regarding this subject. It is painfully apparent, your grasp of proper American language is woefully inadequate. I strongly suggest you refrain from future comments regarding this subject until you have a mastery of it. You see, that is your problem, you do not completely understand the language and therefore erroneously assume a mistake has been made.

I cannot believe that you throw percentages of deaths about like a cold hearted demon. Even a kill rate of .0000000000001% is unacceptable.

This thread is about video games, yet you feebly attempt to change the subject.

All murder must be stopped. Each cause must be addressed. We are addressing the video game menace here. Please stay on topic.

[michele]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

How is it my name has changed to a very badly spelt michelle? and i now reside in godless UK. would that be your self that has done this james? or someone else?

i do not throw stats around. i am stating fact is all.

i am quite happy to stay on the topic of video games. i am just putting forth another side of the arguement, as it does seem like a lot of you believe that someone who has killed because of a game believe that it is the game that is the sole cause. generally the people who have commited a crime because of a video game are already mentally unstable, and have had some traumatic experiences in the past.

And just so you know we are writing in english, and i have a very good understanding of the language thank you very much. i live in england after all

[Paper_Cut]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

I have played Fallout 3 and feel no need to kill anyone. If video games are black and white why then do I not kill anyone nor have the desire to?

It takes an already weak set of morals to be set off by a fictional video game. Video games are but an excuse to a preexisting problem.

[michele]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

I have played Fallout 3 and feel no need to kill anyone. If video games are black and white why then do I not kill anyone nor have the desire to?

It takes an already weak set of morals to be set off by a real video game. Video games are but an excuse to a preexisting problem.

thanks you paper cut. someone who can see my side of things