[Nobar King]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

I'm not like that. Who are you referring to?

[JasmineCar]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Brothers and sisters in Christ,

It has come to my attention through the recent hoopla of the "Oblivion" thread that the same company has created an equally disturbing game called Fallout 3. Without a doubt, the people at Bethesda Softworks (creators of Oblivion and Fallout 3) seem intent on corrupting our youth with introducing anti-Biblical concepts, violence, sexuality, and law-breaking. I have just reviewed the game, and I will now provide a fair and balanced assessment of this poor excuse for a "game".



The setting takes place in and around Washington D.C. after a nuclear war. I might as well open by saying the only good thing that this game offers is that it rightly attributes communism to destruction. In the game's story, China has launched nuclear strikes and destroyed America. While this is much applauded (not the destruction of America, but showing that Communists are evil people), that is where the positive nature of this game ends. Here are just some brief tidbits about what this game contains...

• It is extremely violent. It features various types of sub-machine guns, nuclear weapons, rocket launchers, knives, flamethrowers, various melee weapons, and other instruments of destruction. You can't play this game without killing hundreds of people.
• There is a lot of cursing in this game, with the A-word, S-word, and F-word.
• There is a "perk", if you want to call it that, called "Bloody Mess" which makes killing people even more graphic and gruesome. Your enemies explode in a mess of blood and guts.
• There is another "perk" called Mister Sandman that allows you to kill innocent people in their sleep.
• The worst "perk" of all is the aptly-named Cannibal that allows you to literally devour corpses. I'm not making this up!
• There are quests where you are assigned to kill people. One is even so blatantly called "You gotta shoot 'em in the head" where you are told to do just so.
• You can blow up an innocent town with an atom bomb. After obliverating these people, you are rewarded with money and a place to stay. What kind of message is this giving our children?
• There is prostitution in the game. If you go to a place called Moriarty's Bar, there is a woman who offers to fornicate with you for a price. The player is able to have sexual relations with this woman.
  1st Timothy 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
• You can pretty much kill whoever you want, even good guys. The game makes no consequence for your actions. At most, you have to leave a town for three days, but it allows teenagers to live out "spree killer" and "school shooting" fantasies.
• The player can create their own homemade weapons like a "dart gun" and "bottlecap mine" which encourage domestic terrorist activities. How many kids might be inspired to make their own pipe bombs after playing this game?
• There are beings called "ghouls", which appear to be some kind of zombie demon out of a horror movie. While many ghouls are bad, some are considered "good guys".
• It quotes the Bible out of context. One of the recurring themes revolves around Revelations 21:6..."And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely." However instead of pointing out that this verse revolves around the Lord and that He alone can provide eternal life, this game misconstrues it and takes it to mean that we can make water-purifying systems. It is a mockery of the Bible!
• There is a group of misbehaving brats in a town called Little Lamplight. They do anything they want and disrespect adults. There is nothing in the game that can correct this behavior even though the Bible tells us how to deal with such rebellious imps: Proverbs 13:24 "He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes." Nowhere in the game can you punish these children for their behavior. It tells kids they can act however they want with impugnity.
• You are able to pick locks and it's a skill. You can basically break into other people's doors, safes, and other secure places and steal what you want at whim.
• It also promotes Computer Hacking. Through the skill "Computers", the player can hack another person's private computer, even though hacking is a federal crime.
• Alcohol is available in this game through such forms as whiskey.
• Drug use is promoted. There is a syringe called "Med X" (Heroin), a drug called "Psycho" (Methamphetamine) and "Buffout" (Steroids). Taking these drugs makes you a stronger player, so drugs are encouraged in this game. Even though you can get addicted to the drugs, you can always just see a doctor to cure the addiction. Nowhere in this game is there any Christian pastor to help you overcome addiction through faith in Jesus Christ. Nowhere!
• There is a false, heretical religion called "The Church of Atom". They believes that an atom bomb is a god or something. This may lead players to believe in this bizarre cult. Isaiah 42:8 "I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images."
• The only other church is called "St. Monica's Church". We know Catholics aren't really Christians and this game pushes Catholicism onto players instead of Baptists who believe in the 1611 KJV Bible.

I could go on and on, but I think you can realize what this whole game is about. There are no redeeming qualities in this game, no exhortation of Christian values, but just stuff that would make Satan happy. It should come as no surprise that this game is very popular and many Oblivion players also play this game as well.

Any True Christian™ parent would not want this game around their children. It is an evil influence. Paul warns us to seperate ourselves from such iniquity...



Indeed this game is truly an unfruitful work of darkness. You cannot be a Christian and play this game since you are going against the Bible, as I have shown in the above quotes.

Friends, in my last post warning about the dangers of Oblivion, I advocated taking a stand against the stores selling that demonic game, but I feel considering Bethesda has been putting out multiple games, the only rational stand is to call for the end of Bethesda Softworks. These people should be held accountable to the law (both God's and secular) and should not be able to produce video games anymore. I encourage every Bible-believing True Christian™ reading this to let your congressman know about what is going on in this Satanic organization. Bethesda feels they can put out these sinful games at their own will, but they must be stopped.

I will pray that our cause will prevail. I will pray that the Lord will put Bethesda Softworks out of business. I will pray that these criminals serve time behind bars for corrupting our youth. In Jesus' name, I pray.

Yours in Christ,
Rev. Jim Osborne

Enclosed is a screenshot of this game.

However, Brother, I do thank you & the makers of this sick game for a constant reminder that Communism is Evil & the the Reds must die...As my Pappa used to say in the days of the good old cold war..."The only good red is a dead one!'

Yawl keep those pistols by your beds & sleep soundly in the love of JEzus !

[ultimeci]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

You are not joking are you? You truly don't get it.

OK, I'll break it down for you. I understand you are a bit on the slow side so I will type very slowly for you. Follow me now....

You and I go buy a gun for you. Yea! Praise God! You have a gun. We will go to the gun store in Freehold where Bob will help you pick the right holster and bullets. OK, now you're all decked out!

Now we will go to the Freehold shooting range and run 100 rounds through it. I will show you how to load it, keep the business end pointed down range, where the safety/fire switch is, etc. OK, that was a fun afternoon! You can even take your target full of holes home and put it up on your wall if you want. (That's what my kids do)

Then we go to a gun safety course and finally a concealed weapons course so you can carry it under your jacket just like Dirty Harry.

You now realize that a gun is real. It can kill. You know how to shoot it. How to keep it safe. The laws associated with it. How to load/unload it.

YOU NOW FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NOT A GAME and that guns carry with them the very real responsability that you have the potential to kill someone.

At this stage of the process you wouldn't even dare point an empty gun at anyone. You are an upstanding, armed, and highly educated individual. You would never wave it around like a toy. Heck, you now understand why nobody should ever know you are carrying before there is a bullet in the air.

This is not even close to the path video games follow.

You savvy?

-ND

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

you truly don't get what gaming is all about do you? It's about relieving stress so you don't vent it onto somewhere else

Also, a friend wanted me to link this, I think it would suit you.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

you truly don't get what gaming is all about do you? It's about relieving stress so you don't vent it onto somewhere else

And this is exactly the problem with video games. They allow kids to live out mass murder fantasies. If you have to "relieve stress" by slaughtering dozens of people with automatic weapons, you have some serious mental problems.

That being said, this thread is not to debate whether or not video games cause kids to kill, because it has already been proven by science and statistics. I've noticed that out of the hundreds of responses I get from people, hardly any of them dare challenge the Scriptural basis that games like Fallout 3 are evil and playing them are sins. It's because if you know the Bible like I do, it is abundantly clear that these murder simulators are the works of the Devil.

So turn off your Nintendos and Segas and turn on a relationship with Jesus Christ!

[Nobar King]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

That was very inspirational, Rev. Jim. You truly are a brilliant man. We're lucky to have you here.

[Noah Dint]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

you truly don't get what gaming is all about do you? It's about relieving stress so you don't vent it onto somewhere else

I have heard the same argument about masterbation and I don't condone that either.

Did you have a point?

[Anti-Anti]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

i feel the completely the opposite.

if i work into a gun store/ home with guns. I'm scared....
well not scared. i respect them.
its amazing what even a small calibre rifle can do to flesh.

i play computer games for the sport, cant exactly have a fun game of shoot my friend in the head with a .308 and then go have a beer with him after.

although there is always paint ball shooting..... hmmm.


"Well go take a little more
We'll scrape you off the floor
We love you anyhow
But you're not so pretty now"

[immoral youth]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

I feel that I could contribute to this conversation. Now I'm not one to play the video games, but I do own a gun store.

Day in and day out, I see all kinds of customers, from fathers bringing their little boys in to buy them their very first hand guns, to hunters looking for armor piercing rounds, to Landover Church Security always browsing for the latest in Christian self-defense.

You know what they all have in common? They are all decent white Christian folks. None of them are looking for trouble, they are all trustworthy individuals.

There's nothing dangerous about a gun store. Guns don't inspire people to go on murderous rampages. Video games do. If you want to feel scared, take a stroll through your local computer store, and look at all the diabolical, satanic games that are being marketed towards our children!

Which makes YOU feel more frightened? The fact that there are millions of trustworthy white gun owners who enjoy hunting and occasionally showing off with guns (which is wrong because it is prideful), or the fact that any kid can walk into Wal-Mart and buy any murder simulator he wants, that will teach him how to kill indiscriminately, use drugs, hire prostitutes and disrespect authority?

What kind of twisted mind enjoys sitting in front of a screen shooting at cartoon characters when he could be out in nature gunning down rabbits, dear, raccoons, and other types of pests?

Ok where to go with this one. firstly may i present case 1 ted bundy claimed the voice of god told him to commit murder so unless he was up playing pac man all night i think its safe to say there is evidence that you guys aint got a clean slate. addint that to the templar crusades which hunts andburnings im fairly sure the body count there adds up to way more than people killed by nutjobs claiming video games caused them to go mental.

the columbine disaster they boys were bowling before they decided to go and slaughter a school but i dont think anyone has tried to bad mouth that for causing violence yet have they ?

the christian church and other religions are reposnable for the deaths of millions of people through out history and i know full well that me doing this wont make a single one of you think about the fact that your wrong but i feel the need to make some sort of comment on the matter since in the interests of global safty and security you should all be wrapped in padded coats locked in boxes and put in the rocket, racist intollerant wasts of oxygen i hope if you ever reach your heaven your celestial god throws you away as even i can see that all things in the world are beautifull all the animals all the people differences are there so life is interesting, not so you can try and exterminate all who disagree like your the next hittler only you have support from the rest of your zealots. games are there for fun and dont get this next part wrong i love guns to bits love em but hell keep them away from kids, really a child dont need a gun i dont think i can kill anything i see but hell im not armed.

you should all consider reading your bibles and tryng to get past what an overweight preacher who loves the smell of ur money says and actually learn from the pages that life is for living and we should tolerate all others not force them to think you you. hell if your going to do that why not just start rounding them up into camps and gas the lot of us you bunch of fu**ing nazis

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

you should all consider reading your bibles and tryng to get past what an overweight preacher who loves the smell of ur money says and actually learn from the pages that life is for living and we should tolerate all others not force them to think you you. hell if your going to do that why not just start rounding them up into camps and gas the lot of us you bunch of fu**ing nazis

Dear Godmocking Queerboy;

Thank you for taking the time out of your busy schedule of worshiping satan and being sodomized by truck drivers at rest areas to post this hateful message. The Holy Bible tells us that we are actually Blessed by your persecution! Thanks for proving that we're right.

Matthew 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
5:12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

Enjoy hell. I know that Jesus and I can't wait to watch you burn in hell for all eternity. Oh, how we'll laugh at you as you scream in agony! Shout Glory!!

YIC,

--Pastor Ezekiel

[immoral youth]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

That being said, this thread is not to debate whether or not video games cause kids to kill, because it has already been proven by science and statistics.

had to make a pont ehre too rev jim if your going to pull secience into a religion argument then you have already lost since there is absolutely no science behind your antiquated belife structure. and you religions argument has allways been science isnt proof so recall that one you hypocrit. and again see my last post religion is responsable for far more atrocities in the world than you think ''honest white christian folk'' game saccount for a ridiculasly small margin of that.

i have to ask whats your problem find it hard to get past level one of sonic as a kid and decide to rage out about it pegging someones religion as the reason i have a good understanding of christianity and my girl friend is a christian and what you prech isnt anywhere near that sir your just a hatefull biggot

[immoral youth]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

il finish with this then since aparently your only interested in other clan members on here that agree with your ideas. when the world burns in wars of man i hope you have blankets to put out the fires on your childern while you look into the sky and see nothing but darkness. there is no heaven there is no hell death is the end of the road and il go down knowing i had a fun and full life you will all wollow in your wasted existance but even then i assume you wont think that hmm maybe that guy and all the others were right and we were the cause as even then im sure you wont be able to har the ideas over your crys of hate for all who inhabbit this world. you people are the terrorists of the world all religion is no matter what god you pray to i hope there is a hell so you will see you are wrong when your ''god'' throws you into the fire. have fun trying to convert the world to brain washed morons seeing faces in toast.

and yes you may now ban me if you wish wouldnt want to make you defend your points or anything after all this is for ''good white christian folk''

and opinions of anyone else is totally invalid to you guys i know see ya later you

[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Unintelligable Drivel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

How old are you, five? Are you all upset that Mommy loves the mail man more than daddy?
You really need to think before you speak. You've come across as a moron. If you want someone to listen to you, please, post a logical and coherent comment. If what you have done is the best you can do, then you should really reconsider having dropped out of school in the third grade.

[GOD=life]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

It's about relieving stress so you don't vent it onto somewhere else

Strange, I never felt the urge to simulate murdering and molesting people.

When you want to relieve stress, read the Bible.

God gave it to you for a reason. If you want to know the reason, read the book.

[Gogs=Life]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Strange, I never felt the urge to simulate murdering and molesting people.

When you want to relieve stress, read the Bible.

God gave it to you for a reason. If you want to know the reason, read the book.

I read the Bible and it didn't relieve any stress. There were no calming influences. It did however turn me into a racist homophobic intolerant bigot who wanted to go out an kill some queer darkies (which appears to be some form of pastime on this site) Oh, and look here's some ragheads now . Now don't get me wrong as my geography isn't the best in the world (no pun intended). But wasn't Jesus born in Bethlehem an dhis parents from Nazareth? Hmmm last time I saw the news not many of those folks were white... in fact weren't they from the same raghead stock as you folk want to kill?

Any way, as Immoral Youth says or at least implies (before you banned him for making viable points). People were killing people for years before video games came out, so don't blame the game blame the player.

Oh, and by the way when I got the bible from the book store I found it in the Fiction section. The plot was pretty poor, with numerous inconsistencies and, sorry to spoil the ending, the lead character ended up like this --> oh hang on, isn't making a Jesus smiley a blasphemy? Looks like you people wil be buying asbestos underpants with me.

And yes, I am white & straight, have gay friends and no I don't suck their dicks. They get that already off the christian reverends (when the latter aren;t abusing kids)

[GOD=life]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Oh, and by the way when I got the bible from the book store I found it in the Fiction section.

Given how much the Bible has been corrupted by lie-beral Christians, you might as well put it in the fiction section. Next to permanent markers and scissors, since those are the tools false Christians use along with the Bible.

The only truthful Bible is KJV 1611. If you have been exposed to anything else, then it's no wonder you hold such a dim view of Christians.

I don't suck their dicks.

We don't really care about the specific technique you use. Maybe you are a top or a bottom... it is sinful either way.

They get that already off the christian reverends (when the latter aren;t abusing kids)

Catholic by any chance? Catholics are not Christian. LBC is the only Christian Church. The rest are founded by false Christians seeking to corrupt people who could have been saved.