[Joey the Troll]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

Meanwhile, a video game lover enters the forum, looks around, and complains.

It has come to my attention that the fine people of this forum have overlooked opposing arguments to this entire topic. All the claims in the first post can easily be refuted, as well as others.

1. Homosexuality- One of the characters using the phrase "Get behind me Doctor" and "I love this Doctor" when being healed by another player is not at all indicative of homosexual activity. When the character says "Get behind me Doctor" he is referring to the fact that he is invulnerable and that the doctor should protect himself from bullets, out of kindness. I fail to see how it is, does saying that you love potato chips mean that you have a deep and intimate relationship with them? Also, referring to the picture shown earlier in the thread referring to two characters at a baseball game, is it wrong to go to a baseball game with a co-worker and friend?

2. Yes, they are supposed to look threatening because the point of the game is to kill the other team with your GUNS. The game is based around this and if your children are either A: Not mature enough (The game is rated M for a reason) or B: You won't let them, then so be it.

3. There are barely any curses used at all, and the only heavy cursing is in German, as one of the characters is German.

4. I have absolutely no memory of God ever being mentioned. At all, be it derogatory or otherwise.

5. Anti-American? I fail to see at all how this game is Anti-American, or even pro-American. When one of the characters claims "This is my world, you are not welcome in my world," that is actually (from what I can remember of the Scriptures,) in fact Biblically accurate. God gave Adam and Eve this world he created to live in, but when they ate of the Tree of Knowledge blah blah blah and the rest.

In closing, as a Christian I believe you all are quite nice people, but you're overreacting about this game that I for one have played over 350 hours of. TL;DR (Too Long; Didn't Read,) I think you're all wrong about most everything said here.

Note I did NOT go all the way through this thread looking for every claim, just the first few pages.

[Bobby-Joe]

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Note I did NOT go all the way through this thread looking for every claim, just the first few pages.

Then we should read your wall of text, why?

[Thomas Dalton]

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Ha, I'm sorry, that's my fault. I thought you would understand that the term evolution can have two meanings, both similar. OK. Evolutionary biology, such as a species developing opposable thumbs is different from mechanical evolution, such as a group of people evolving their language by developing new language patterns. Different but similar, I know you know what I was talking about, but I suppose that's all part of trying to pick apart my post. Maybe replace my use of the term evolution in that case with another synonym for development if that helps you. I hope that I've cleared that up for you, if not, just ask, and I'll explain it better.


No.
Like I said, different uses of the word evolution. One is related to biology, such as developing new tools of survival, the other is related to more of a mechanical development - developing new ways to use the tools you already have. People still native to Africa have biologically evolved as a species right along side us, and have chosen to retain their traditional speech patterns. It's their preference, maybe just out of habit, simply part of their culture, or both.

Then why isn't it possible humans were first created in America and then swarmed out to Africa, increasing the complexity in the process?
I know! Since you think Africans are lazy, and would never increase the complexity of a language by their selves. We Aryans are so efficient we can make do with simpler sentences, but those negra's still need complex words...
Your theory makes as little sense as Darwin's.

It was actually the Chernobyl incident that brought this fact to researchers. The Chernobyl plant reactor, supposedly void of all life after being sealed for ten years, was found to contain a pure black fungi, made up largely of melanin. The melanin in the fungi is no different chemically than the melanin found in our skin. While studying this fungi they found that when exposed to ionizing radiation it grew and grew. Their research concluded that melanin acts much like another pigment known as chlorophyll, found in plants, converting sunlight into energy for it's host. The melanin reacts with the radiation and alters it's electron structure, which is what allows the melanin to harvest it.
This study was conducted by Arturo Casadevall and Ekaterina Dadachova on behalf of the Albert Einstein College of Medicine. Their findings can be found in Public Library of Science One.

..................seriously?
Do you have any idea how difficult photosynthesis is according to Satan-worshiping scientist? How many so-called proteins you need? Cofactors?
Protection to not let the mechanism kill you?
(We Christians of course know God makes it all happen, making the process quite a bit easier, but yeah... everyone their preferences)
And you tell us that magical negras have that in their body?
Protip: If Fundementalist Christians and Scientists laugh at your ideas, you're doing it wrong.

Absolutely! This is actually kid stuff.
E-Coli is a fast growing bacteria, thus it was the perfect medium to study genetic evolution. Since 1988, 12 initially identical populations of e-coli have been growing, secluded from eachother, and reached 50,000 generations by early 2010. In human terms, that would be like watching 750,000 years pass by. All 12 populations have shown evolutionary adaptations, some similar to eachother such as evolving "larger cell volumes and lower maximum population densities, and all became specialized for living on glucose", and some radically different from eachother, such as one strain that has evolved to use a completely different type of food source for survival - citric acid. Something no other strain produced.
This study has been and still is being conducted by Richard E. Lenski, who has published many of his research papers on the Michigan State University's site @ http://myxo.css.msu.edu/Publications.html.

Yes.... still waiting on the proof of a mammal changing into another mammal...
Now you posted proof of a bacterium changing in the same bacterium, like wolves changed into dogs, well done!
You know how easy it is to doctor those results you mentioned?
Those Godless Scientists also use E. coli (capitalize the first letter, don't capitalize the second letter, and put the whole word in italics please.)
to produce human stuff like insulin. How hard would it be to let them consume citric acid?

[SlimeCounty]

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Wow, I guess maybe I don't have all the answers.
Is it too late for me?
How did I let things get this bad?

[Thomas Dalton]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

It may not have been your fault. After all, if your parents, or your parent's parents, or parent's parent's parents, or parent's parent's parent's parents, or parent's parent's parent's parent's parents, or parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parents, parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parents, parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parents, or parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parents, or parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parents copulated while not married, you're still destined for Hell:
Deuteronomy 23:2: A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

Take that in for a sec. That's really a lot of people, each of which may have fallen prey to the lust of the flesh.
I would really take a look at your family tree. If you can't track all members down, you might be damned already.

Luckily for you, since you haven't mocked God yet, there's still hope
Matthew 12:31: Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

Jesus saves!

[BrendanMills]

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Is the worship of Jesus Christ really what being a "True Christian" is all about? Or is it all about being pretentious, overbearing and ignorant much like what i am seeing here? Seriously, its a game.

Just Because you worship God doesn't mean you ARE God.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Is the worship of Jesus Christ really what being a "True Christian" is all about? Or is it all about being pretentious, overbearing and ignorant much like what i am seeing here? Seriously, its a game.

Just Because you worship God doesn't mean you ARE God.

Being a True Christian(tm) is about following the bible (KJV1611) exactly and to the letter.

YIC
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[BrendanMills]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

What then, Does the King James Bible have to do with This "Team Fortress 2" Video game?

[Dr Laurence Niles]

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How is one supposed to read the bible (KJV1611) while imagining 'rocket jumping' (whatever that is)?

Team Fortress enourages the kids to turn from God and that's a sin

Deuteronomy 7:4 For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may serve other gods: so will the anger of the LORD be kindled against you, and destroy thee suddenly.

Deuteronomy 13:5 And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.

Deuteronomy 23:14 For the LORD thy God walketh in the midst of thy camp, to deliver thee, and to give up thine enemies before thee; therefore shall thy camp be holy: that he see no unclean thing in thee, and turn away from thee.

Let Jesus in!
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[Billy Bob Jenkins]

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What then, Does the King James Bible have to do with This "Team Fortress 2" Video game?

Any contrivance that is insidiously designed to conjure up images of gay sexual intercourse in my mind stands in stark contrast to the righteous instructions of the King James Bible.

[Mentlegen]

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Any contrivance that is insidiously designed to conjure up images of gay sexual intercourse in my mind stands in stark contrast to the righteous instructions of the King James Bible.

Do you really think ValvE made this game to conjure up images of gay sex? No of course they didn't. If they did, it would be obvious to everyone. You're not smarter than other people, far from it. Other people would know if it was gay. I play Team Fortress 2 on a reguar basis, for FUUUUN. That's it. Having a game of TF2 whilst talking to friends is very fun. But you don't really know the definition of fun do you...?

[Thomas Dalton]

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Do you really think ValvE made this game to conjure up images of gay sex? No of course they didn't. If they did, it would be obvious to everyone. You're not smarter than other people, far from it. Other people would know if it was gay. I play Team Fortress 2 on a reguar basis, for FUUUUN. That's it. Having a game of TF2 whilst talking to friends is very fun. But you don't really know the definition of fun do you...?

fun/fən/
Noun:
Enjoyment, amusement, or lighthearted pleasure: "anyone who turns up can join in the fun".
Adjective:
Amusing, entertaining, or enjoyable: "it was a fun evening".
Verb:
Joke or tease: "no need to get sore—I was only funning"; "they are just funning you".
Synonyms:
noun. amusement - joke - sport - jest - lark - entertainment
verb. joke - jest - banter - jape - lark

We know the definition very well, thank you

We just think eternity not burning in Hell is a lot more fun than any fun to be had by being penetrated by large black men, as you undoubtedly are in your spare time .

[Pootis]

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Ha. Ha. Ha. This is the funniest thing I've ever seen about Team Fortress 2. Ever.

There is no homoesexuality between any of the characters. When Heavy says he loves that doctor, he means "potato chips love", not "homo love". Like Joe the Troll said, it doesn't mean that he has a romantic involvement with Medic. Even if it slightly promote homosexuality, it's not a problem. I mean, God should be okay with homos, being the loving, caring father of all he is.

As for the blood and gore, there are settings to turn them off/replace them with funny gibs. You'd have to Google them, but they're there. You can even turn sounds off or find a patch that censors swears.

A group of Christians play this game. They aren't friends with Satan, but they still play the game. Maybe you can find a way to contact them and talk to them. Their website is here.

This proves you can still play the game and be close to God. As for OP, you need to spell better and give us examples of how it's corrupting America's youth. All I see is horrible, 8-year old grammar.

Good gravy, you guys need to be a bit more laid-back. TF2 is not like Doom or Wolfenstein.

[Noah Sole]

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I mean, God should be okay with homos, being the loving, caring father of all he is.

No God is not OK with homers.

Leviticus 18:22
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Leviticus 20:13
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

All the best

[Dr Laurence Niles]

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Enough of that missy!

potato chips love

If you knew that this means putting mashed salt and vinegar potato chips under the foreskin when the gaywise practice sodomy you might think twice about bandying such phrases around on a family oriented website.

We don't cotton to that kind of thing here, sister

Jesus loves me.