[Dan U. Holier]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

...you need to get your eyes checked if you think that's a dildo. That's quite obviously a saw. Saws have teeth...

I’ll take your word for granted; so much worse: a massive dildo... with teeth! What else will they come up with? Are you a sodomy-masochist, son?

Similarity? Yes. Coincidence? I don’t think so.

YiC, DUH

[Yukon Silvermoon]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

I'm really not sure how being cut up by a BONESAW, a medical tool, is erotic in any fashion. And you would call it a dildo, being that everyone on this forum just LOVES homosexuality, and for some reason wants /ME/ to be one. Geez, talk about a welcome wagon.

http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Bonesaw

Here's the mystery "dildo" that is the bonesaw.

And can't believe you're arguing with a furry? Well stop arguing and get your mind outta the gutter, pervert. ;P

[Joevader]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

I could try and argue and nitpick every little false or miss-construed thing you people have brought up but that would take days... So instead I've just picked a few of the blatant ones.
Leviticus 19:15 "In righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour."
Translation
15 “‘Do not pervert justice; do not show partiality to the poor or favoritism to the great, but judge your neighbor fairly.
John 7:24 "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment."
Context:
21 Jesus answered and said to them, “I did one work, and you all marvel. 22 Moses therefore gave you circumcision (not that it is from Moses, but from the fathers), and you circumcise a man on the Sabbath. 23 If a man receives circumcision on the Sabbath, so that the law of Moses should not be broken, are you angry with Me because I made a man completely well on the Sabbath? 24 Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.”
2nd Timothy 4:1-2 "I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine."
Translation:
Preach the word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage—with great patience and careful instruction.
God=Life "Not school shootings."
Uh Hi, the first school shooting on record was 1966 University of Texas. Pong wasn't even created until 1972 and I am pretty sure that didn't cause people to go crazy and shoot up their classmates. Also no school shooting has any proven ties to video games. The first few people who did this just finally realized they could do some harm by bringing their father's guns to school and getting back at those bullies who made their life miserable. The ones that came after just saw the previous people's examples and followed suit. Keep in mind I said recorded shootings as well. There have no doubt been countless shootings quite earlier than that.
I Corinthians 5:11But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
Context and more to the passage:
11 But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister[c] but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.
12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13 God will judge those outside.
I could keep going on for days but i don't feel like wasting much more of my time on here. You are all narrow minded and fail to see the scripture for what it is. If you all seek to live like Jesus Christ than how are you guys missing the part where Jesus ate and shared with thieves, idolaters and sinners. Where he said to love your enemy and spread the gospel to all nations. Instead all you are doing is pissing people off and pushing these sinners away. As a person who has been struggling with his faith few a few years now, I look at the way you are acting towards humanity and feel disgusted. Why would I want to be part of a group that spends their days spouting hate and intolerance when I could be separate and better people's lives by giving to charity and build homes for the needy. Actions speak louder than words. All I see on here is a bunch of hateful, unforgiving words.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

Translation: I don't like what the Bible actually says so because I am a pompous know-it-all I'm going to put MY thoughts in bold and browbeat people into believing what I think.

[Joevader]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

Translation: I don't like what the Bible actually says so because I am a pompous know-it-all I'm going to put MY thoughts in bold and browbeat people into believing what I think.

You can say what you will but the fact that you take things completely out of context when you spout off a single verse here or there to try to prove your points is unjustifiable. I used bold purely just to show what I was saying compared to what you were saying. It has nothing to do with brow beating anyone. Everyone is free to interpret what I have said and what anyone else has said in whichever way they want to.
Still can't hide the fact that the bible clearly states Jesus himself ate with these sinners you are so quick to condemn to hell. He wants everyone to go to heaven. People like you who actually "browbeat" people into believing what you say are only making it harder for more people to be saved.

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

you are so quick to condemn to hell

You are mistaken, it is Jesus who will condem these people to hell. We have no such power. Let's see what Jesus himself says about the matter.

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Matthew 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

If Jesus sees fit to condem all atheists, catlicks, mooslims, injuns and other sinner to hell, it must be right thing to do. Do you disagree with Jesus?

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

Matthew 7:21-27

21*Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22*Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23*And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

24*Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25*And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26*And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 27*And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

OK mr great scholar. Jesus wants everyone to go to heaven regardless, does he? That's strange, because Jesus over and over states that only certain people get into Heaven and the above is probably one of the most well known examples. Only those who do as they are told go into heaven.

How, therefore, are we doing anyone a service if we don't draw their attention to what God tells us to do, especially the bits we might be tempted to ignore if, for example, we get turned on by the sight of other men's bottoms.

[Yukon Silvermoon]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

I could try and argue and nitpick every little false or miss-construed thing you people have brought up but that would take days... So instead I've just picked a few of the blatant ones.
Leviticus 19:15 "In righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour."
Translation
15 “‘Do not pervert justice; do not show partiality to the poor or favoritism to the great, but judge your neighbor fairly.
John 7:24 "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment."
Context:
21 Jesus answered and said to them, “I did one work, and you all marvel. 22 Moses therefore gave you circumcision (not that it is from Moses, but from the fathers), and you circumcise a man on the Sabbath. 23 If a man receives circumcision on the Sabbath, so that the law of Moses should not be broken, are you angry with Me because I made a man completely well on the Sabbath? 24 Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.”
2nd Timothy 4:1-2 "I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine."
Translation:
Preach the word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage—with great patience and careful instruction.
God=Life "Not school shootings."
Uh Hi, the first school shooting on record was 1966 University of Texas. Pong wasn't even created until 1972 and I am pretty sure that didn't cause people to go crazy and shoot up their classmates. Also no school shooting has any proven ties to video games. The first few people who did this just finally realized they could do some harm by bringing their father's guns to school and getting back at those bullies who made their life miserable. The ones that came after just saw the previous people's examples and followed suit. Keep in mind I said recorded shootings as well. There have no doubt been countless shootings quite earlier than that.
I Corinthians 5:11But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
Context and more to the passage:
11 But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister[c] but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.
12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13 God will judge those outside.
I could keep going on for days but i don't feel like wasting much more of my time on here. You are all narrow minded and fail to see the scripture for what it is. If you all seek to live like Jesus Christ than how are you guys missing the part where Jesus ate and shared with thieves, idolaters and sinners. Where he said to love your enemy and spread the gospel to all nations. Instead all you are doing is pissing people off and pushing these sinners away. As a person who has been struggling with his faith few a few years now, I look at the way you are acting towards humanity and feel disgusted. Why would I want to be part of a group that spends their days spouting hate and intolerance when I could be separate and better people's lives by giving to charity and build homes for the needy. Actions speak louder than words. All I see on here is a bunch of hateful, unforgiving words.

Happy to know there are some people with some sense here. :3

[Alphonse Alban]

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Happy to know there are some people with some sense here.

Yes, it was quite sensible of him to leave after shown how wrong he was about the Bible and Jesus.

[Joevader]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

You are mistaken, it is Jesus who will condem these people to hell. We have no such power. Let's see what Jesus himself says about the matter.

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Matthew 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

If Jesus sees fit to condem all atheists, catlicks, mooslims, injuns and other sinner to hell, it must be right thing to do. Do you disagree with Jesus?

Ok first of all I haven't been mistake about anything. You all have spent the entire time in this post condemning people to hell for the way they live their life without truly knowing them as God does. Anytime some one points it out you come back with "Noo we don't condemn that's for God to do" Yet you are...

21*Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22*Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23*And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

24*Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25*And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26*And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 27*And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

OK mr great scholar. Jesus wants everyone to go to heaven regardless, does he? That's strange, because Jesus over and over states that only certain people get into Heaven and the above is probably one of the most well known examples. Only those who do as they are told go into heaven.

How, therefore, are we doing anyone a service if we don't draw their attention to what God tells us to do, especially the bits we might be tempted to ignore if, for example, we get turned on by the sight of other men's bottoms.
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Actually yes he does wish for everyone to make it to Heaven but you clearly missed the part where I said WANTS. Obviously not everyone will get into heaven and God being this omnipotent being obviously knows this. It does not stop him from wishing all of his children could make it there. Also good job on the quoting scripture part. That text in context is talking about false profits who pretend to do the will of god but really don't follow it in their hearts. Hey this sounds familiar...

Yes, it was quite sensible of him to leave after shown how wrong he was about the Bible and Jesus.

I'm sorry, unlike you guys who can stay up all hours of the night posting on a thread all of about 5 people read (yes including myself) I have a life and need sleep. My apologies for my late response. Don't assume you've proven your point without a shadow of a doubt just because some one doesn't reply within 5 minutes of your post.

[Alphonse Alban]

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I'm sorry, unlike you guys who can stay up all hours of the night posting on a thread all of about 5 people read (yes including myself) I have a life and need sleep. My apologies for my late response. Don't assume you've proven your point without a shadow of a doubt just because some one doesn't reply within 5 minutes of your post.

Sorry, but your condescending martyr card won't work here. You dodged the question. Are you disagreeing with Jesus? Are you saying that Jesus is wrong for condemning every single person to hell who does not follow him?

[Redeemed Papist]

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Actually yes he does wish for everyone to make it to Heaven but you clearly missed the part where I said WANTS. Obviously not everyone will get into heaven and God being this omnipotent being obviously knows this. It does not stop him from wishing all of his children could make it there. Also good job on the quoting scripture part. That text in context is talking about false profits who pretend to do the will of god but really don't follow it in their hearts. Hey this sounds familiar...

We wish everyone would make it there. The difference is that instead of selfishly congratulating ourselves and leaving everyone else to be condemned we are trying to warn people.

And for this we get persecuted by people like yourself who just come here to abuse people.

[Joevader]

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Sorry, but your condescending martyr card won't work here. You dodged the question. Are you disagreeing with Jesus? Are you saying that Jesus is wrong for condemning every single person to hell who does not follow him?

I never said anything about Jesus being wrong. All I have stated was that he does not wish everyone to go to hell. But the laws are there for a reason and what law would it be if the creator himself didn't enforce it. My point is you are doing nothing but attacking people and putting people down without even getting to know them and attempting to show them proof of why they should believe in Jesus and getting them to convert. No self-respecting person will take to being attacked and told you all are going to Hell! Repent now you slutty gamerloid evil hell spawn! and think, "Hey i like this belief system I think I want to join it."

I have been a christian my entire life and I can honestly say that the congregations I have been apart of, have won more souls and hearts for Jesus by simply, and kindly sharing the gospel and spreading the truth. Not once have we ever used tactics such as calling people "Unsaved trash" and expressing in detail that "you will have Satan's massive engorged member rammed up your bottem" The only thing that makes everyone else and myself think is you are nuts.

I'll refure to an article written on Gospel.com as to what Christianity is all about:
There is a God, he loves you, and you can know him personally.

That's it. Think for a moment about what that means: it means that there's something more to life than the daily grind. It means that pain, disappointment, and suffering are not the end-all-be-all of your life. It means that Somebody loves you without asking anything in return—no matter how messed up your life is, no matter what you've done.

This Good News is the main point behind the Bible, and it's not complicated. All you need to do to receive this Good News is believe it. Here's how it breaks down:

You, like everybody else on earth, have made mistakes. To use a religious word, you've sinned.
Your mistakes (sins) make it impossible for you to know God all by yourself. God is perfect and good in every respect, and sinful people can't even be in the presence of so much goodness. It doesn't matter if your mistake was a little one or a big ugly one—it's enough to separate you from God.
God loves you, despite your mistakes, and wants to have a relationship with you. God came up with a solution to this sin problem—he sent his son Jesus to suffer the penalty that your mistakes deserve. Jesus took your mistakes upon himself so that you can be perfect in God's eyes. After committing this act of sacrifice, Jesus was raised from the dead and acts as a go-between for you and God.
By simply believing in this—your sin, God's love, and Jesus' sacrifice—you can enter a relationship with God. That means that your mistakes are washed away and you're invited to live a new, transformed life—a life that's based on something more meaningful than money or power or keeping up with the Joneses.
That's the Good News: that there's more to life than what you see, and you can be a part of it—through Jesus.

Fear should not be the cause of people turning to God, Love should.

[B]Matthew 5:43-44
New King James Version (NKJV)
Love Your Enemies

43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor[a] and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you,

Exodus 34:5-7
New International Version (NIV)
5 Then the LORD came down in the cloud and stood there with him and proclaimed his name, the LORD. 6 And he passed in front of Moses, proclaiming, “The LORD, the LORD, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness, 7 maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin.

Luke 6:35
But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked.

And for this we get persecuted by people like yourself who just come here to abuse people.

I like how you try to twist it too make it look like that's my purpose. Not once have i ever been abusive to anyone in this post. All I am doing is pointing out where you contradict the bible's teaching as well as how you are scaring off more people than you are converting. You are doing a disservice to the Christian Faith.

[Redeemed Papist]

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I like how you try to twist it too make it look like that's my purpose. Not once have i ever been abusive to anyone in this post. All I am doing is pointing out where you contradict the bible's teaching as well as how you are scaring off more people than you are converting. You are doing a disservice to the Christian Faith.

Where do you find out about Jesus? How do you choose which bits of God's word to ignore?

OK - let's try something a bit off topic.

2 Kings 2: 23,24 23And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. 24And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them

What does God mean here? How do you twist this to your fluffy God?

I'm comfortable with a God who would rip apart 42 children if they were disrespectful to a Prophet. It's a great cautionary tale and the fact that it actually happened and could happen again if God wills it ought to keep children from being vile and insolent.

So was God lying? Did it not really happen? If it is an allegory, what is it allegory for?

God is vengeful and capricious and will burn you forever if you don't do His bidding. Making God fluffy just so people will like you and not run from you screaming so you can feel better about yourself and trick people into thinking you are holy is not doing them a service when they burn anyway. It's dishonest and you disgust me.

[Alphonse Alban]

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I never said anything about Jesus being wrong.

Good, so you agree then that most of the population on earth will be send straight to hell. Those are the heathens, the enemy.

If no one says to them that they are wrong, they have no hope. This is where the love comes in. We love them so much that we want to see them saved. We will say things as they are. Follow our way, the Christian way, or you will burn for all eternity.

God has infinite love for people who follows him, others he hate.