[coertzenjfs]

Re: BAN DIABLO 3: The most SATANIC, SEX-POSITIVE game EVER!

I just wanted to post my 2cents here because of the first post that was posted.

Here's my story. Thanks for reading it.

All my life I've grown up with computer games. My parents are also christians and loves Jesus. I've never really know Jesus until lately, but

that's another story I'll state after this one:

I've been playing games since 10 years old. I've played bad ones, good ones and obscure ones. I've done all the Diablo games, Warcraft,

Starcraft, etc. I've also created a great deal of games in my life. I'm currently a Software Engineer. I've also studied games in university. I've been an extreme gamer all my life. I've enjoyed it allot. I always enjoy a good game except if the theme is truly evil. I've

played together in groups and made allot of friends through my gaming habits. Some of my best memories are playing games with my friends

(sometimes even at church or a chrisitan gathering). Games promote socialism. If your faith is strong in Jesus then you will take this message

with you and people will see Him through you. It lies within the context of what you believe, tell people and do.

Myself and my wife had an encounter with a demon lately. We haven't really been as faithfull to Jesus before the encounter but it opened our

eyes. I started praying like never before when my wife started seeing them. I could feel God and the Holy Spirit flowing through me. It was

amazing. I can't describe it. It was the same feeling when I listen to a sermon and really feel God's glory in me. I've really experience our one and only true God. It was so amazing I almost passed out. I could feel the demon going away. My wife didn't believe me at first and retreated to her mother's house. There was also demons at

her mother's house and they got a person (not a pastor or priest or whatever, just a really faithfull person that dedicated her life to Jesus)

and she also drove them away. That lady also salved me and while she was praying she told me that she could see God's faith in me and that I will

preach to my family, guide them and also preach to people. I can truly say that I'm born again. It's amazing.. even as I'm typing here my heart is boiling with joy for Jesus.

Back to the forum's posts. I'm amazed that posts by Pastors (corrent me if I'm wrong here) are somewhat crude against other faiths. Yes Jesus is the one and only way, so it is

written but it's also written that we are not the ones that can judge. I'm not the best bible quotee and I've read that I don't have to be to

preach to people about Jesus (I'm sharpening my skills), I can just say: So it is written. The lady that's married to the muslim is probably

working on her husband and it's his choice to choose Jesus. We can only influence them. You can scold me, call me a false christian but you know

it's the truth, go read. Please be kind to atheists and other faiths. We are driving people away from Jesus and not towards him. We want to show people that Jesus is the way and that following Him and excepting Him as their savior will give them eternal life. I stands written that there will be false profits.

On the games, I agree that the posts and points are COMPLETELY false. Oblivion was my favourite game. Saying that Diablo is evil is like saying

Facebook is evil and if I go and search for each and everyone of you I'll find you on facebook. I believe that my interest in games and passion

for it can lead me to social with other people that also play games. During this I can get to know people and lead them to Jesus. That's what

Jesus wants us to do, doesn't He? Oh, so it stands written......

[Didymus Much]

Re: BAN DIABLO 3: The most SATANIC, SEX-POSITIVE game EVER!

...Yes Jesus is the one and only way, so it is
written but it's also written that we are not the ones that can judge....

Where?

[the little J man]

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"Guess again, sinner. Free will is an un-Biblical myth."

it was not a guess.

"Oh, so you're an atheist."

Not exactly. I never said there is or is not a god, nor do I believe that he exists or does not exist. I know that "knowing" god exists is beyond human capacity, so saying outright that god exists/doesn't exist is outside my capacity, me being human. Therefore, I will not say I am an atheist, because it is my understanding that they believe god does not exist.

"We're working on that. There are two routes: A couple of better justices on the Supreme Court, or Constitutional amendment.

We're working on both. "

Good luck with that! I hope you have fun trying to win over the majority of a free country with the promise of removing said freedom.

"He DID say: Reverence the gods, and help men. Short is life."

I apologize for mis-quoting Marcus. I havent had a chance to read Meditations but I intend to do so.

"OK, I won't wait, because this is a discussion forum. But the quote's not there. Because he didn't say it. And was a believer, if in heathen gods."

Hows the weather up there on your high horse?

"No, not really. Sinners go to Hell. Sin is disobeying God. We obey God. We will spend eternity praising Him for being Perfect."

Would misunderstanding god's word and then enforcing those misunderstood words be disobeying god?

"Enjoy Hell!"

I hear its nice this time of year, thanks! Maybe I can get a new copy of diablo 3 while I'm there.

[Didymus Much]

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...I never said there is or is not a god, nor do I believe that he exists or does not exist...

Absent proof, there is only belief. That said, you have a belief, one way or the other, whether you admit it or not. Refusing to answer the question just marks you as a coward.

... I know that "knowing" god exists is beyond human capacity...

Knowing depends on proof, which depends on what evidence one is willing to accept. "Knowing" God exists depends on accepting evidence I either reject or have not encountered. Your claim that others have never encountered evidence that you haven't tells me a lot about your intellectual honesty (and it's not flattering).

...so saying outright that god exists/doesn't exist is outside my capacity, me being human. Therefore, I will not say I am an atheist, because it is my understanding that they believe god does not exist...

Hello??? See the word "belief" there? Do you even know what that word means?

...Would misunderstanding god's word and then enforcing those misunderstood words be disobeying god?...

Where have the True Christians™ misunderstood God's word as left to us in the King James Bible?

[the little J man]

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"Absent proof, there is only belief. That said, you have a belief, one way or the other, whether you admit it or not. Refusing to answer the question just marks you as a coward."

I don't believe either way, because I don't have proof of existence or the absence of god. Knowing depends on proof, and I do not accept the king james bible as adequate proof. You do, and therefore you are christian because of that. I have no problem with this.

" Hello??? See the word "belief" there? Do you even know what that word means?"

assurance. Belief, certainty, conviction refer to acceptance of, or confidence in, an alleged fact or body of facts as true or right without positive knowledge or proof.

Without positive proof, I choose not to believe.

"Where have the True Christians™ misunderstood God's word as left to us in the King James Bible?"

Misunderstood to the level of zealotry. like those guys.

[Didymus Much]

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...I don't believe either way, because I don't have proof of existence or the absence of god...

That's why I said BELIEF. If there was proof, we would KNOW (one way or the other).

... Knowing depends on proof, and I do not accept the king james bible as adequate proof. You do, and therefore you are christian because of that. I have no problem with this...

I AM NOT CHRISTIAN. See the "awards" beside my name, and my severely RED reputation bar.

...Without positive proof, I choose not to believe.

Absent cojones, you choose not to answer.

We are all free to make up our own minds (even the Bible says this). The True Christians™ and I just wish for people to make a fully informed decision.

..."Where have the True Christians™ misunderstood God's word as left to us in the King James Bible?"

Misunderstood to the level of zealotry. like those guys.

ANSWER THE QUESTION. Where have the True Christians™ misunderstood God's word as left to us in the King James Bible?

Btw please use the "Quote" button (at the bottom right of each post). It will be clearer who you are responding to.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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I AM NOT CHRISTIAN. See the "awards" beside my name, and my severely RED reputation bar.

Maybe a kind Pastor will change your little subtitle to "ATHEIST God-Mocking Tard" or something like that. It might make it more clear to visitors that you're not a Christian.

[the little J man]

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That's why I said BELIEF. If there was proof, we would KNOW (one way or the other).



I AM NOT CHRISTIAN. See the "awards" beside my name, and my severely RED reputation bar.



Absent cojones, you choose not to answer.

We are all free to make up our own minds (even the Bible says this). The True Christians™ and I just wish for people to make a fully informed decision.



ANSWER THE QUESTION. Where have the True Christians™ misunderstood God's word as left to us in the King James Bible?

Btw please use the "Quote" button (at the bottom right of each post). It will be clearer who you are responding to.

I did not choose not to answer, that is my answer. I do not pick a side. I do not feel the need to choose either way. As for the cojones, I am a firefighter sir, I am pretty sure I have a decent amount of cojones.

As for misunderstanding,
John 8:7- "So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her."

Stones have been cast at many people, specifically in this thread Blizzard entertainment and the game Diablo III. If we are all born with original sin, we are thus all sinners. Even if we are not born with original sin, to claim that one has not sinned at all in their whole life would be very hard to believe. Forgiving these sins does not mean forgetting, thus even if a sin is forgiven it still occurred, thus leaving everyone sinners, forgiven or unforgiven. Therefore, the misunderstanding is the mentality of "I am saved, so therefore I can damn the others"

As for the misunderstanding of my own assuming you were christian, I apologize.

Referring to one of your previous posts,

"Your claim that others have never encountered evidence that you haven't tells me a lot about your intellectual honesty "

What evidence of a supernatural being do you know I've encountered?

Also, as I've answered your question, I'd like to pose mine again for an answer- Would misunderstanding god's word and then enforcing those misunderstood words be disobeying god?

A yes or no would suffice, although I'm interested in the explaination.

[Didymus Much]

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...As for misunderstanding,
John 8:7- "So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her."...

So it's your misunderstanding that we're dealing with. Jesus did not condemn them for judging, he condemned them for judging hypocritically, because He knew that they were not without sin, a theme he expounds on in (the frequently misunderstood) Matthew 7:

Matthew 7:1-3 : "Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?..."

...If we are all born with original sin, we are thus all sinners...

We are all born sinners (thus babies, infants, and those too young/mentally infirm to appreciate Jesus' sacrifice are condemned to Hell), but when we accept Jesus and the Holy Spirit, those sins are washed from us. This thread explains it well: True Christians are Perfect!

... Even if we are not born with original sin, to claim that one has not sinned at all in their whole life would be very hard to believe. Forgiving these sins does not mean forgetting, thus even if a sin is forgiven it still occurred, thus leaving everyone sinners, forgiven or unforgiven...

Then how does ANYONE enter Heaven?

... Therefore, the misunderstanding is the mentality of "I am saved, so therefore I can damn the others"...

No one here is damning anyone, that's God's job. They are just warning people that their actions meet with God's disapproval, and there will be consequences. It's the same as if I saw you about to break into a car parked beside the road, knowing that a cop was patrolling, and telling you not to do that because you would be caught and go to jail.

... "Your claim that others have never encountered evidence that you haven't tells me a lot about your intellectual honesty "

What evidence of a supernatural being do you know I've encountered?...

None, it was your blanket denial of other's experiences that I took issue with. Learn to read, k?

...Also, as I've answered your question, I'd like to pose mine again for an answer- Would misunderstanding god's word and then enforcing those misunderstood words be disobeying god?...

Yes. You have still to demonstrate how the True Christians have misunderstood God's word as left to us in the King James Bible, though.

[the little J man]

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So it's your misunderstanding that we're dealing with. Jesus did not condemn them for judging, he condemned them for judging hypocritically, because He knew that they were not without sin, a theme he expounds on in (the frequently misunderstood) Matthew 7:

Matthew 7:1-3 : "Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?..."

I never said anything about judging, I spoke about casting stones. Calling others sinners is metaphorically casting stones. Learn to read, k?

Then how does ANYONE enter Heaven?

I've been told it was the forgiving of said sins? In confession? If someone dinged my car door and said they were sorry, and I said it was ok, then they were forgiven. However, the forgiving does not fix my car door, does it? I've still forgiven and moved on, but the damage has been done.

No one here is damning anyone, that's God's job. They are just warning people that their actions meet with God's disapproval, and there will be consequences. It's the same as if I saw you about to break into a car parked beside the road, knowing that a cop was patrolling, and telling you not to do that because you would be caught and go to jail.

Warning us, like when we were told the world was ending a year ago?

Yes. You have still to demonstrate how the True Christians have misunderstood God's word as left to us in the King James Bible, though.

I have, whether you can see it or not is not my problem. Its the circular reasoning. Not only has the word in the bible been misunderstood, the video game itself has been. Thus attracting the attention that it did from this website.

I'm not wasting any more of my time on this website. You'll probably see it as a victory or something, I couldn't care less. I think I'll actually go and enjoy the rest of my life, seeing as if I'm spending all of hell in eternity, I might as well make it worth the while.

peace and love

[Didymus Much]

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I never said anything about judging, I spoke about casting stones. Calling others sinners is metaphorically casting stones. Learn to read, k?...

Well, now I'm "metaphorically" flipping you the bird.

...I've been told it was the forgiving of said sins? In confession? If someone dinged my car door and said they were sorry, and I said it was ok, then they were forgiven. However, the forgiving does not fix my car door, does it? I've still forgiven and moved on, but the damage has been done...

God requires no restitution. He doesn't hold grudges like you apparently do.

...Warning us, like when we were told the world was ending a year ago?...

Why don't you search this forum and see how much support that psychotic false Christian Harold J. Camping got here?

...Not only has the word in the bible been misunderstood...

WHERE?

[Jedediah]

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As for misunderstanding,
John 8:7- "So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her."

In this verse, Jesus is speaking to unsaved trash who have not accepted Him as their LORD and Savior. At that time, He had not yet died (temporarily) on the Cross, so it was not possible for any to be washed in His Blood at that period in history.

Today, we True Christians™ who worship Him and glorify Him by following - unquestioningly - every letter of His Word as given in the Holy Bible (KJV 1611) are without sin, as the Scripture tell us. Indeed, True Christians™ are perfect. Also note what Jesus told the harlot in John 8:11: "go, and sin no more."

Therefore, if anyone is to "cast the first stone" and judge in righteous judgment, it is us - the perfect children of God. Praise!

Stones have been cast at many people, specifically in this thread Blizzard entertainment and the game Diablo III. If we are all born with original sin, we are thus all sinners.

The most important distinction between unsaved trash and True Christians™ is that we have had our sins washed away (e.g., Acts 22:16, I John 1:7) and, indeed, are incapable of sinning. Glory!

I John 3:6-9
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Even if we are not born with original sin, to claim that one has not sinned at all in their whole life would be very hard to believe. Forgiving these sins does not mean forgetting, thus even if a sin is forgiven it still occurred, thus leaving everyone sinners, forgiven or unforgiven. Therefore, the misunderstanding is the mentality of "I am saved, so therefore I can damn the others"

Son, I wouldn't expect you to fully comprehend what it means to be Born Again. But when you let Christ enter into you, let Him fill you with His penetrating love, filling you with the Holy Spirit and scrubbing filthy sin from every crevice and orifice with His Blood, you are not the same person that you used to be. The sinner is no more, and in its place arises a perfect, Blood-bought child of the Lamb, who walks in righteousness and for whom it is literally impossible to commit sin.

II Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

I Peter 1:23
Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God which liveth and abideth forever.

And indeed, once we have bathed in Christ's Blood, emerging new and whole and perfect in all respects, any judgments we make are made in perfect and complete righteousness. There is no hypocrisy in our righteous judgments, and Jesus is just fine with that. It is only hypocritical judgment that displeases Him. That is why it is our place to judge unsaved trash, but you may not judge us, lest you bring God's wrath down upon your own head.

I Corinthians 2:15
But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

Next time you decide to tell us how to be Christians, try consulting the Holy Bible (KJV 1611) first. It's quite possible you won't come across as quite so much of an ignorant jackass. God left us instructions precisely so we don't have to figure these things out for ourselves.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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I never said anything about judging, I spoke about casting stones. Calling others sinners is metaphorically casting stones. Learn to read, k?

Jesus doesn't say that nobody should cast stones.
He says that he who is without sin may cast stones.

And friend, he who abides in Jesus Christ is made sinfree (as 1 John 3:5-9 says).

Thus, Jesus expects True Christians to cast stones. Glory!

[Seven7r]

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Hey like the other guy awhile ago, I made an account just to see that you asshats are going about. Really? Diablo III? ban it? What are you going to do? I got the game, Installed it, then activated it. You shits are calling people satanic because it's called Diablo? My god it seems you do not fully understand what it is about, YOU KILL THE DEMONS! Ergo, you have no say that it is so-called "demonic". Call me or something but whatever. Here's the message (and since I've read the other threads like "Chastity Belts" Ban this, ban that)
So if it's pleasurable you have to ban it? pifflein hell. Message is, piffle YOU AND THIS piffleING DUMBASS FORUM, And here's another one, stop piffleing calling people heretics just cause they don't believe, if they don't you have NO BUSINESS IN THEIR LIVES, and BTW, you make God look like a monster

piffle YOU!

[Seven7r]

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Here is another goddamn one, I've read that someone (I guess like one of you asshats) beat the fuck out of their kid cause he played the game, Jesus FUCKING Christ! Seriously, if you physically beat a kid, that is fucking CHILD-ABUSE!