[Holly Graham]

Re: Top Ten Reasons Why GAY MARRIAGE is WRONG!

Oh yeah, well, this one is true... I remember I went to a straight kindergartner as a child and they showed us straight porn all day long, I never learned the colors or the vowels, but I came out of that place being an expert on straight sex.

Oh my sweet Jesus, you poor thing!! Were your parents not aware that they could have homeschooled you? I'm in tears for you!! At the VERY least, they could have found another public school that didn't expose CHILDREN to PORN? Pardon me while I vomit, and pray that you healed from this abomination.

...Retard.

You silly man, why would anyone CHOOSE to be a "retard?" Personally, I think it's horrible to use that word, mainly because I have a step-son who chooses to be Autistic, and as much as I'm embarrassed by his choice, I would never insult a normal person with that name.

...bible tell us....

Sir, the BIBLE is the word of our Lord. I suppose at that porn kindergarten you attended, they didn't teach you that "Bible" should have a capital "B." I am SO sorry, Mr. Free. I have tears in my eyes for your poor life so far.

Religious people suck.

Yes, Mr. Holly tells me this all the time. I'm assuming he's meaning that I should Hoover more in the bedroom, since that's where he makes this comment the most often.



Mr Free, I am on my knees, praying for your soul. I only wish that porn kindergarten had not corrupted you so.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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I don't really get why does it seems "cruel" to you to defend people's right of expressing their love the way they want, if they want to have sex in a different way than you do and the most important thing: they enjoy it while causing you no harm AT ALL, then what's the problem?

But it does cause harm! The Good and Perfect LORD Himself calls it an "abomination" (Leviticus 20:13; Leviticus 18:22). Abomination - extreme disgust and hatred. This is an extreme offense to a Perfect God, and an offense like this is most definitely a cruel, hurtful thing to do. Why, how would you like it if someone came to your home and pushed your dear mother into the street and mocked her whiled stray dogs came to urinate on her while she's trying to get up but couldn't because of a broken hip, all the while, this person laughs and laughs? I would think you would consider that quite cruel and hurtful, yet two sodomites do much worse to the Sweet Baby Jesus every time they hold hands lovingly!

Seriously, I've never seen god puke because of this... well... actually I've never seen god at all, I'm not sure he even exists, BUT I'm sure of this: If he does exist, I'm sure he would be glad with the simple idea of having people loving (that's the key word here: LOVING) each other rather than killing themselves for whatever reason.

But, dear, this isn't love. It's naught but lust, and an animalistic lust at that. Sodomites might as well gang rape the homeless, various farm animals, and the occasional chinese graduate student! Then they turn these people and animals gay through their "fabulous" recruitment schemes, and before you know it, all of West Hollywood has turned queer and invites the wrath of God upon all of the United States!

And one more thing: you believe god created us, right? ok... if he did, he gave man an erogenous zone way deep inside his anus, why would he do this? if he is so repulsed by the simple idea of men having anal sex then he should've been smarter and place this zone on the top of his head or something like that.

We live in a Fallen World. Before Eve ate of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil (Genesis 2:17), there was no erogenous zone! Anywhere! Procreation was a chore, like cleaning the llama poo from the basil plants in the garden. There was nothing "special" about it.

But I'm the cruel one, right?

Very cruel. You're the kind of person who encourages people to go against God's Will and do what "feels gooood," even if it sends a person straight to the depths of HELL!

Just let people be happy, please, stop hating, stop judging and stop accusing. If gay people are happy being gay, then just let them be gay! we'll all gonna die someday, right? and you DO believe that we will all face god when we do, right? so that's it! he'll take care of it, he'll send the gay people to burn in hell for loving each other and you'll have more space in heaven to play your harps or whatever, so while we're here together just learn to respect! let people live the way they want as long as they don't harm you or the ones you love

But people like you are trying to recruit my children. With your "Gay Pride" parades and your "It's Okay To Be Takei" slogans, and your "Ridiculing a Queer at School Is Called Bullying," you're trying to convince my kids that if they think they feel attracted to someone of the same sex, IT'S OKAY!

("Throughout the history of man, neither the plague, nor war, nor small-pox, nor AIDS, nor malaria have produced results so disastrous to humanity as the pernicious habit of sodomy."

And about this... really? what could be THAT bad about two men loving each other?... you'd rather have wars than gay love?... man... and you think I'm the one who's cruel? sister... come on!)

If you spend the time to read the first post carefully, with an open mind, you should understand. If not, please don't hesitate to ask!

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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The gay is wrong for one primary reason: God says so. Case closed. What God says, goes.

Lev.18:22
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Lev.20:13
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Rom.1:26-27
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature. And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

[MitzaLizalor]

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Well I'd only read about ¼ of this rubbish before I saw it needed a point by point response (but also brief due to ADD of OP)

Originally Posted by Free_thinker246
§ moronic preamble
..you had the right to tell others how to live their lives

No we didn't. GOD DID

§ assorted claptrap (but no-one's actually clapping)
"have god ever told this to you?"

YES

§ more balderdash
if two people love each other

sodomites don't love each other

their will is to express that love without EVER hurting you or telling you how you should express yours

whatever the intentions of these wretches, they DO hurt others and secondly, and most idiotically, they never cease telling other people how "love" should be expressed just go to one of their SHAME marches or some onboxious MARDI GRAS what normal person needs to do that? we have no shame to deny

(unbelievable, poster only just covered this theme less than a minute ago)
then WHY do you want to tell them that they are wrong?

we don't GOD DOES

why judge them?

because God commands us to

Even IF god exists, let him deal with them when the time comes.

it has HE IS

(this is a good bit)
"If we start promoting homosexuality as something normal (it IS normal)

no it's not WHAT DO YOU THINK NORMAL MEANS?

and give it society's blessing with marriage

you don't choose what society does
everyone else does!

then people won't think anything wrong of it

completely back-to-front

if people don't "think anything wrong of it" then it will have society's blessing

but people DO think there's something wrong with it and that's why it's so difficult to pass the laws you desire

and furthermore even if society (whatever you think that means and based on your version of "normal" it's anyone's guess) did think that, it would not be and is not now any form of society which I recognise

(there is NOTHING wrong with it). Impressionable kids are the most susceptible

if it's such a hoot, normal and nothing wrong with it why do you need to induct impressionable kids?

§ more gobbledeygook — then:
A normal child should be harrassing and teasing gay kids and calling them "faggots" (wow... that's what the bible teaches you?

The Bible explains that they should all be killed, age regardless

to spread hate?

no, because GOD LOVES US He has commanded other ways to avoid the everlasting torments of molten brimstone, gnashing and torture too

§ and sure enough:
Bestiality is more rot deleted for brevity married to their horses and dogs

actually zoophiles DO campaigh for EXACTLY that

Bestiality is wrong because it implies one conscious being abusing an animal, which can't take any decision about what's being done

getting excited now are we, making with the bold typeface

firstly, it would be difficult for an unconscious being to do anything

secondly, how could you marry an unconscious animal (or human) if I chloroformed Jo Freddie for example and dragged him off to the registry office the registrar would refuse to proceed and even if by bribery we were married, unpleasant though that thought may be, as soon as he regained consciousness he could get an annulment, it'd be an open and shut case

thirdly, why would anyone want to marry an unconscious dog? you're weird..

and fourthly, what do you mean "can't take any decision about" have you ever actually met a dog? [handy hint: when you do, don't wear a skirt (or kilt) but if you must, carry a hammer]

two homosexuals choose

but dogs humping legs are not making choices I really am starting to feel like vomiting now

then Hitler came up, I think I need a fizzy drink and a lie down

[Free_thinker246]

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...uuuugh... I'm not even gay, I just defend people's right to live as they see fit, but whatever... talking to you people is like trying to reason with a brick... as the saying goes "if you could reason with religious people, there would be no religious people" so yeah, I just wasted my time with you, I had hope... silly me.

By the way: "The gay is wrong for one primary reason: God says so. Case closed. What God says, goes."

Way to keep an "open mind" there.

Good luck with your hateful god and your brainwashing rites, have fun and yeah, pray for me, as much as you can, please, better to have you guys praying than out on the streets spreading your poison.

And Ezekiel, about your infraction in which you insult me and judge me, thanks for taking the time to "warn" me but feel free to ban me, I'm not coming back here. Just know that I didn't come here to "flame" you guys, I was really mad by the stupid and hateful remarks of the dude who started the topic, I wanted to reason with you, I honestly can't believe that people as blind as you exist, now I understand that this is exactly what you think of me, so no point wasting more time, right? let us both go back to our lives and enjoy them as best we can, me respecting people, you hating them in the name of your god. I'm sure he will be proud of you (if he exists).

[MitzaLizalor]

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...uuuugh... I'm not even gay, I just defend people's right to live as they see fit, but whatever...

Well, seems like poster has gone. And left us with a choice

1 I…defend people's right to live as they see fit

2 whatever

and the answer is:

WHATEVER

FreeThinker reckons it's the go to defend people's "right" to live as they see fit
. . . . . . . . . . . EXCEPT WHEN AS THEY SEE FIT DISAGREES WITH FREETHINKER


This is the atheist's dilemma. Since they have a double standard (they can do whatever they like but you can only do whatever you like provided you only want to do what the atheist approves of) what should they say?

Nothing? then we won't see the double standard

OR

Anything, in which case everyone will recognise them as the delusional zhombies they are.

Christians have a single standard: God's Standard. It has never changed and is sufficiently robust to not only withstand any examination but to sustain the whole of creation.

COLOSSIANS 1
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
KJV

[Pim Pendergast]

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"If we start promoting homosexuality as something normal (it IS normal) and give it society's blessing with marriage, then people won't think anything wrong of it (there is NOTHING wrong with it).

Normal is a synonym for straight.

Impressionable kids are the most susceptible (you're one to talk, how old were you when your parents started indoctrinating and brainwashing you?). A normal child should be harrassing and teasing gay kids and calling them "faggots" (wow... that's what the bible teaches you? to spread hate? congratulations, parent of the year. If that's the way you think then don't be offended when we (and by "we" I'm talking about the people who think) call you stupid or retarded), not trying to be friends with them or enable their lifestyle. Think about it: Bestiality is widely-frowned on by society. That's why you don't see a bunch of bestiality-advocates in the streets, parading around with their animals, fighting for the right to get married to their horses and dogs (Bestiality is wrong because it implies one conscious being abusing an animal, which can't take any decision about what's being done, but two homosexuals choose to express their emotions consciously, so you shouldn't be pointing fingers as long as they don't choose to rape you ). We must shame them into submission."

The Bible tells us to tell our children what to think.

Prov 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

Most of us were raised in the truth, and we have not departed from it in adulthood.

"Legalizing gay marriage will lead to a huge increase in natural disasters."

Ok... you gotta be kidding me... are you an expert troll? because if you're being serious you really should talk to a professional about this... has THIS ever been scientifically proven? oh, wait... it's in the bible, right?... yeah, my bad. Sorry.

This is perfectly Biblical. Homosexuality is contagious, so much so that it's possible for the entire population of a city to become homosexual. This is what happened in Sodom (Gen 19:1-30), and God destroyed the city and surrounding towns with a volcanic eruption.

"The word of Christ" yeah right, I remember how the bible tell us about Christ calling people nasty names and telling them to hate anyone different, you damn hypocrites. Religious people suck.

Christians should imitate Christ (1 Cor 11:1). But Jesus is impolite. Deal with it. We would be hypocrites if we pulled our punches.

...uuuugh... I'm not even gay,

This is what the Bible says about those who deny God:

Rom 1:26-27 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Rom 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

I just defend people's right to live as they see fit, but whatever... talking to you people is like trying to reason with a brick... as the saying goes "if you could reason with religious people, there would be no religious people" so yeah, I just wasted my time with you, I had hope... silly me.

By the way: "The gay is wrong for one primary reason: God says so. Case closed. What God says, goes."

Way to keep an "open mind" there.

If people would simply doubt themselves and just believe the Bible (Prov 3:5), there would be no atheists. If you think you can persuade us with your reason, you are sorely mistaken.

[Brendon Pisshead]

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Normal is a synonym for straight.

nor·mal
/ˈnôrməl/
Adjective: Conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected.
Noun: The usual, average, or typical state or condition.
Synonyms:
adjective: regular - standard - ordinary - common - usual
noun: normality - normalcy - perpendicular


Mm.. nope. Normal ≠ straight. By definition, anyway. More common, sure. But that doesn't really mean anything.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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nor·mal
/ˈnôrməl/
Adjective: Conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected.
Noun: The usual, average, or typical state or condition.
Synonyms:
adjective: regular - standard - ordinary - common - usual
noun: normality - normalcy - perpendicular


Mm.. nope. Normal ≠ straight. By definition, anyway. More common, sure. But that doesn't really mean anything.

Hi, and welcome to our friendly forums! Are you suggesting anal rape is now the typical sex in our fair country? Anyway, you are most welcome to introduce yourself HERE so we can greet you properly! For your benefit, you can read this helpful guide for newcomers, and remember, if you want to share your opinion, kindly provide the scriptural support for it. Because your rights are important to us, you’ll find Landover Baptist Church Forum’s universal declaration of rights HERE.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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Adjective: Conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected.

Dear friend:

The definition that you have cited proves Brother Pendergast right. Heterosexuality conforms to the only standard that ultimately matters, which is God's (Lev. 20:13, Romans 1:26-27, 1 Cor. 6:9-10). Also, unless you've lived your entire life in the Castro, you know perfectly well that heterosexuality is usual, typical, and expected.

[MitzaLizalor]

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nor·mal
/?nôrm?l/
Adjective: Conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected.
Noun: The usual, average, or typical state or condition.
Synonyms:
adjective: regular - standard - ordinary - common - usual
noun: normality - normalcy - perpendicular


Mm.. nope. Normal ? straight. By definition, anyway. More common, sure. But that doesn't really mean anything.

Usual and more common mean the same thing.

If something is less common it is not usual and therefore not normal

Pasting dictionary definitions usually comes unstuck if you don't read them
Pasting dictionary definitions normally comes unstuck if you don't read them

If you would like additional information about the normal distribution you will have to Google it but I should mention that homosexuality goes in one of the tails.

[Brendon Pisshead]

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Dear friend:

The definition that you have cited proves Brother Pendergast right. Heterosexuality conforms to the only standard that ultimately matters, which is God's (Lev. 20:13, Romans 1:26-27, 1 Cor. 6:9-10). Also, unless you've lived your entire life in the Castro, you know perfectly well that heterosexuality is usual, typical, and expected.

Yes, being heterosexual is usual. But that's not the point I was making. I was being literal.. but maybe you guys can't take jokes? Straight is not a synonym for normal, as proven by the list of synonyms for the word "normal". And my little note at the bottom: it doesn't matter if it's more common, or normal. 'Cause whether you like it or not, the road America -the world, really, cough cough, New Zealand and England- is heading on is going for the side of morality, and unfortunately, that does not happen to coincide with your religion.

Usual and more common mean the same thing.

I read your whole post but I can't be bothered to reply to all of it. Sure, I'm familiar with the definition of the word "normal". But that is not what I was saying. I was trying to be comical, but I guess we have different senses of humor. Straight is not actually a synonym of normal. If you want to get logical, then yes, technically, you're right, in that the majority of people are straight, therefore it could be considered "normal". But as stated above, it doesn't really matter. Unless one were to believe in what you believe in, as that would decide their fate for all eternity. But as they live, no, it matters not.

Well, that's my ten cents. Do with it what you will. I'm out.

[MitzaLizalor]

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I read your whole post but I can't be bothered to reply to all of it.

There was only one point.

Sure, I'm familiar with the definition of the word "normal". But that is not what I was saying.

Yes it was.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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but maybe you guys can't take jokes?

I don't understand. How is Salvation is a joke to you?

[Brendon Pisshead]

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There was only one point.

Technically speaking, there were four topics in your post.

Yes it was.

I posted a definition; how the hell could you know what my intentions were if I've never told you?

I don't understand. How is Salvation is a joke to you?

That wasn't the joke. The joke was barely even related to what the guy was saying. My joke was that he had said straight was a synonym for normal, and I was proving that it wasn't, hence the fact that I had bolded the synonyms in my post. That was the joke. I was being utterly literal.