[Brother Gonzalez]

Re: God Hates Asexuals

And in the first chapter of the Bible, God says "let us make man in our image", so it's obvious he's not the only being.

Let's see:


Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.


So, He is not alone. And that is because He is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. By saying that He was sorrounded by aliens, you are ignoring Jesus and the Holy Spirit. The last could be very dangerous for you, as the only unforgivable sin is to commit blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.


Mark 3:28-29


28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:


29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.

Also, the Biblical flood was said to happen around the same time that Planet X last came near to us,

No references to Planet X in the Bible. What is Planet X and what is your source of information?

and human/angel hybrids are also mentioned in the Bible.

Where?

Not just that, but the first lines in the Bible could actually be about the possible big bang,

The first line of the Bible:


Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.


Are you saying that the "Big Bang" is the creation of heaven and earth? Earth specifically?


That only shows that you know nothing about the Bible and the Big Bang "Theory"

and the part that says that Jesus will return and bring fire and brimstone could actually be about the day that the world becomes no more, as our planet itself is mortal, and there's also speculation (although I'm not too sure if it's true or not) that Jesus himself could've been an alien (or maybe even a hybrid).

That would be the Book of Revelation. And no, it is not about the end of the world because of the earth would be old; it is about the second coming of our Lord to kill the unbelievers and take with Him the believers.


Calling Jesus an alien is beyond my realm of imagination.


It is very sad when people just believe in something without a fact to support it, just because it is written somewhere.

[Dolores de Barriga]

Re: God Hates Asexuals

We're (simply put) not suited to this environment,

Which one? Do all humans live in a single environment? Did our ancestors lived in a single environment? Do you even know what was the environment of our early ancestors some, oh let's say, 4 million years ago?

as we are the only beings that have to rely on outside sources for heat.

Irrelevant if you correctly answer my questions above.

Also, what if the aliens have always been there?

If that statement were true there would be plenty of archaeological evidence of it. Hint: there isn't. Hint 2: shows such as "Ancient Aliens" are science fiction, not science.

What if (shock horror) there are multiple universes

So? Without a way of getting from one to another it doesn't matter how many there are.

and they hold more truths about us than we care to think?

So? How would that change anything?

What if apes were the original humans?

And what about Australopithecus fossils? Were they put by God or aliens in the ground just to confuse us?

And in the first chapter of the Bible, God says "let us make man in our image", so it's obvious he's not the only being.

Ever heard of the royal "we"? And before you start with Elohim - although I'd be surprised if you were able to even use that argument correctly - how about the very first verses of Genesis? They refer to a single being, not plenty.

Also, the Biblical flood was said to happen around the same time that Planet X last came near to us,

1. What is the archaeological evidence of flood actually happening?

2. What is the actual evidence that the hypothetical Planet X actually exists?

and human/angel hybrids are also mentioned in the Bible.

Angels were created by God. Here, not on another planets.

Not just that, but the first lines in the Bible could actually be about the possible big bang,

Have you actually read Genesis? Because if the answer is yes, and you still believe what you just said, then you have a really wild imagination!

Have you ever thought to become a science fiction writer? You should not let your creativity go to waste!

and the part that says that Jesus will return and bring fire and brimstone could actually be about the day that the world becomes no more,

See above.

as our planet itself is mortal, and there's also speculation (although I'm not too sure if it's true or not) that Jesus himself could've been an alien (or maybe even a hybrid).

First, you'd have to actually confirm that Jesus existed. Second, you'd have to somehow prove that aliens visited the earth at the time. And when I say "aliens" I mean something of higher intelligence than the supposed bacteria discovered in meteorites from Mars.

I've just finished grading 40 exams, boy, am I glad that my undergraduate students are much smarter than you are! As my student, you'd have received a big fat F not only for ignorance but also for a complete lack of reasoning skills.

[Basilissa]

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there's also speculation (although I'm not too sure if it's true or not) that Jesus himself could've been an alien (or maybe even a hybrid).

Eww!

Thankfully for us, the Holy Bible provides us a detailed description of how the firmament works. It clearly tells us that stars are nothing but lights created for our enjoyment:

Genesis 1:14-15
14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

God created stars, therefore God did not come from the stars.

Also, while for now the stars seem fixed on the firmament, at the end of days they will actually fall to earth:

Mark 13:25 - And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.

Revelation 6:13 - And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

I hope that was helpful, sweetie.

[MitzaLizalor]

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We're (simply put) not suited to this environment, as we are the only beings that have to rely on outside sources for heat. Also, what if the aliens have always been there? What if (shock horror) there are multiple universes and they hold more truths about us than we care to think? What if apes were the original humans?

What if apes were the original humans? It may have escaped your notice that Adam had language and was able to engage in conversation.

Adam - Cain - Enoch - Irad - Mehujael - Methusael- Lamech - Jubal
Genesis 4:17-21

When his great-great-great-great-great-grandson was born Adam was barely into his 3rd century, exact dates are available elsewhere, by which time the harp was established as an instrument as was the organ. We know Adam was familiar with metals such as iron, zinc, copper and with the properties of alloys such as brass. This Adam, according to your theory, who was an ape. Spinning and weaving were on the go as was animal husbandry. Jabal, Jubal and Tubalcain between them must have made Adam proud and then Adam had another son.

Adam - Seth - Enos
Genesis 4:25-26

You will notice how at this time they started to call on the name of The LORD, Adam (who had previously been in conversation with God during the Eden fiasco) and his new grandson together with his other sons and grandsons, great-grandsons and great-great-grandsons, great-great-great-grandsons and great-great-great-great-grandsons and his great-great-great-great-great-grandsons and there's a great-great-great-great-great-granddaughter mentioned. Naamah.

So are you suggesting that Naamah was a transsexual ape who snuck off to upper Nile regions, reunited her relatives there successfully it seems, then reinvented herself as Menes I? The time period is about right. Or is she one of the aliens? If she was a throwback, according to you, she would be quite different from the Egyptians.

In the Narmer palette you can see that someone quite different is represented. Could this be Naamah? In which case who are the Egyptians? Chimpanzees? In the image just above the two dinosaurs [RIGHT] [enhanced detail] you can see that the smaller persons do not have the proportions of a chimp. There could be some artistic licence going on, the Egyptians were quite happy to have Queens as well as Kings but always presented them with the accoutrements of males, blue and gold striped beards etc., and it's now generally accepted that "Narmer" did the "uniting" then ruled over the whole area as King Menes.

Of course when departing from conventional wisdom unusual features are required to account for the variant reading. In this case Naamah, Tubalcain's sister, could be a hermaphrodite or someone wrongly called a boy at birth who actually turned out to be a girl later after inadvertantly being included in the genealogy. That might explain why she went to Egypt but for your theory to hold water she needs either to be an ape or an alien and my point is how come the apes lost language skills so quickly? Jubal developed broadly the same elements into music and metal instruments would have been available (including to Adam) so I'm having difficulty climbing on board here.

You will need to provide a bit more information for me to compare.

I should also point out that the Narmer palette is most likely to be using some sort of perspective rather than depicting chimps.
Or other donor species.

[agnesaliencat]

Re: God Hates Asexuals

Yeah but it wouldn't have been English, and what we speak nowadays (modern English) is nothing like what would've been spoken when the Bible was first written. Also, to the numpties who think that I am ignoring God, go and listen to talks by scientists like Michio Kaku, as he combines both religion and science, and he's one of my favorite scientists BECAUSE of that.

[Dolores de Barriga]

Re: God Hates Asexuals

Yeah but it wouldn't have been English, and what we speak nowadays (modern English) is nothing like what would've been spoken when the Bible was first written.

So, you read ancient Hebrew and ancient Greek and therefore you are able to have a conversation about the linguistic details of the Bible in these two languages?


I'm truly impressed. You should talk to Dr. Elmer White; he reads ancient Hebrew and ancient Greek as well. My knowledge of ancient languages unfortunately does not go beyond Latin.

[ShannonM]

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Jesus did not get married, nor did he have children--yet he did not sin. Please explain how it is sin if I make the choice to remain unmarried and childless.

[BrotherLarry]

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Jesus did not get married, nor did he have children--yet he did not sin. Please explain how it is sin if I make the choice to remain unmarried and childless.

Wow, Shannon, I must have missed your contribution in the Introductions Forum, where all new members are to visit before attempting to engage in fellowship with the rest of the Church. I hope to see you over there shortly!


The brief answer to your question is that Jesus can do as He pleases. But there's more to it than that!


After we have been properly introduced, I know many will leap to answer your monumental questions.

[Alvin Moss]

Re: God Hates Asexuals

Jesus did not get married, nor did he have children--yet he did not sin. Please explain how it is sin if I make the choice to remain unmarried and childless.

The word of God is clear on this issue. It can be found in Genesis 1:28, which is right near the beginning of the Bible. That is how important God sees this direction. "And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply..."

[MitzaLizalor]

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Yeah but it wouldn't have been English, and what we speak nowadays (modern English) is nothing like what would've been spoken when the Bible was first written.

That is irrelevant.

I believe that extraterrestrial beings came here from elsewhere in space and that we are the result of their experiment involving their own genes and primate genes (hence why I also believe in something that I call the Adam and Eve effect).

And in the first chapter of the Bible, God says "let us make man in our image", so it's obvious he's not the only being. Also, the Biblical flood was said to happen around the same time that Planet X last came near to us, and human/angel hybrids are also mentioned in the Bible. Not just that, but the first lines in the Bible could actually be about the possible big bang, and the part that says that Jesus will return and bring fire and brimstone could actually be about the day that the world becomes no more, as our planet itself is mortal, and there's also speculation (although I'm not too sure if it's true or not) that Jesus himself could've been an alien (or maybe even a hybrid).

Nothing there requiring any specific language to be spoken.

You want primate hybrids? OK, you got 'em!

Primates do not have language. Therefore at the point where aliens started hybridising they were working with species not having language AT ALL. Yet Adam DID have language and if there are later hybrids, possibly including Jesus ACCORDING TO YOU, how come the primate species lost language so quickly? You must be aware that all the Adamite history predated the hybridising experiments by many centuries? Like, you're the one making ghe claim. WHICH language Adam spoke is irrelevant. THAT he spoke is the point I'm asking you about. I wait with ears..

Jesus did not get married, nor did he have children--yet he did not sin. Please explain how it is sin if I make the choice to remain unmarried and childless.

Can you please provide Scripture in support of your claim. Your question has already been answered.Thanks.

[Brother Gonzalez]

Re: God Hates Asexuals

Yeah but it wouldn't have been English, and what we speak nowadays (modern English) is nothing like what would've been spoken when the Bible was first written. Also, to the numpties who think that I am ignoring God, go and listen to talks by scientists like Michio Kaku, as he combines both religion and science, and he's one of my favorite scientists BECAUSE of that.

I don't know if you are talking to me, because you do not use quotes. But I have not accused you of ignoring God, but of ignoring Jesus and the Holy Ghost.


And I have a lot of things to do before listen talks by Hello Kitty, I am sorry. Listening to those false prophets will take you to hell:


1 John 4:1 - Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.


2 Peter 2:1 - But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.


Matthew 7:15 - Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.



What we should do with the false prophets?


Deuteronomy 18:20 - But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.

[Brother Gonzalez]

Re: God Hates Asexuals

Jesus did not get married, nor did he have children--yet he did not sin. Please explain how it is sin if I make the choice to remain unmarried and childless.

Are you Jesus? Were you conceived by a virgin? Can you multiply bread, fish, wine?


If you are not, then man up and have children, as commanded by the Lord.

[ShannonM]

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Can you please provide Scripture in support of your claim. Your question has already been answered.Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Can you provide Scripture references to support YOUR claim?

[ShannonM]

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Are you Jesus? Were you conceived by a virgin? Can you multiply bread, fish, wine?


If you are not, then man up and have children, as commanded by the Lord.

Are you saying that if these things WERE true of me, then I would be exempt from what you are claiming to be a command to all women in the Word of God? Where is THAT stated in Scripture?

Additionally, one cannot "man up" to have children. It's an oxymormon.

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

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Are you saying that if these things WERE true of me, then I would be exempt from what you are claiming to be a command to all women in the Word of God? Where is THAT stated in Scripture?

I'm sorry but I don't follow your train of thought - Jesus is not a woman. Would you care to elucidate?

Additionally, one cannot "man up" to have children. It's an oxymormon.

My husband is a man (obviously!) and has a great many children - I am proud to be their mother (and, in the case of the three eldest, their stepmother). What exactly is your point here?