[Pravoslavac]

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Don't be silly. That mummified hand probably belonged to some leper gay-lover of the bishop of your city long ago. The real relic of John the Baptist is in Constantinople, Turkey. Oh no, wait, it's in Monastery of Dionysiou from Mount Athos, and Coptic Monastery of Saint Macarius the Great from Sketis, Egypt. Oh hold on, I mean, the bones that survived the fire and were buried are now in Sofia, Bulgaria.



You pagans can't even get one story straight! You love your necrophilia, and claim to have all kinds of dead body parts as relics, including the foreskin of Jesus (as a ring, eating it over and over again, or in the heavens surrounding the planet Saturn). You and your magical skin and bones of the saints. Do you know how silly that sounds? It's less realistic than Harry Potter. At least he had a wand. You guys have mummified flesh and bones. Yeck.

And they are not mummified. USSR/Russia failed and still fails to mummify Lenin's body with the modern technology, Lenin's body is still rotting and stinking, they had to freeze it many times, and we have holy relics for 2000 years without any technology, no rotting, no stink, just a grace of God upon his Church against even the gates of hell wont prevail, or you kicked that quote as well from your racist Bible. We don't worship relics, we keep them safe, as a proof of God's grace.

[Didymus Much]

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...Monks at mount Athos say more prayers in one day than all Baptists say in one year...

Matthew 6:7 "But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking."

...You probably wrote that new Bible to justify racism and slavery you had in USA...

1) King James Bible dates from 1611. USA was founded 165 years later.

2) Weren't you part of the Ottoman Empire? "...As late as 1908, female slaves were still sold in the Ottoman Empire.[4] Sexual slavery was a central part of the Ottoman slave system throughout the history of the institution.[5][6]..." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery...Ottoman_Empire Stones and glass houses, dude.

...so you could comfort yourself, well it is okay to have slaves in my home, it is in the Bible. LOL And yet you talk about crimes...

The same justifications for slavery are in your Bible, too. Why don't you obey them?

[Pravoslavac]

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Not to mention his head, which is either in the Umayyad Mosque in Damascus (which by Protoslovac's reasoning would make him a muslim) or the Church of San Silvestro in Capite in Rome (which would make him a catholic) or buried in Antioch on the border of Turkey and Syria or buried somewhere in the south of France.

But I guess in the narrow world view of the Serbians, a fake hand beats a fake head, and even if it has been stolen and moved a dozen times having one proves that John the Baptist, despite his name, was some sort of Russian orthodox.

Narrow world view of Serbians? You had slavery and you still teach it. LOL

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

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We don't worship relics, we keep them safe, as a proof of God's grace.

In Spain they parade them through the streets on their "saints' days". So you can be quietly walking along minding your own business and suddenly there's some nutjob dressed like a Klansman waving around the big toe of Saint Dolores or whoever. It's disgusting.

[Pravoslavac]

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Matthew 6:7 "But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking."



1) King James Bible dates from 1611. USA was founded 165 years later.

2) Weren't you part of the Ottoman Empire? "...As late as 1908, female slaves were still sold in the Ottoman Empire.[4] Sexual slavery was a central part of the Ottoman slave system throughout the history of the institution.[5][6]..." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery...Ottoman_Empire Stones and glass houses, dude.



The same justifications for slavery are in your Bible, too. Why don't you obey them?

Really? Now you judge them how they pray? They get up in 5AM and pray in Church until 11AM with small pause, they have all night vigils when they pray all night and morning. While you go to Church and demand slavery. lol

Yes, slavery existed before 1776

No we were not part of the Ottoman Empire, we were enslaved by the Ottoman Empire. Don't try history with me, Americans and history don't go together.

And shouldn't you be in prisons? All of you. Does USA have some anti-racist and anti-hate speech/preaching laws? Or you just shoot each-other like cowboys with no laws.

[Basilissa]

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False Christian chanting?! It is psalm from the Bible. Calling me Russian, even though i wrote i am from Serbia. Your ignorance of this world and theology is too great. This was a mistake. Where were you before 1620?

Hello, dear. I'll go out on a limb here and say that Brother Elmer was not born yet in 1620, so wherever his immortal soul was, he probably doesn't recall.

Orthodox Church cannot be false, it's first bishops were 12 Apostles, we wrote the Bible.

Oh, dear.

1. There is no such a thing as the Orthodox Church - there are many Orthodox Churches, some of which originate in the five original Christian dioceses. The Serbian church does not belong to that original five group.

2. Serbian Orthodox Church is one of the later Orthodox offshoots. While there were some Christians in your area since the second century AD, there was no Serbian Orthodox Church per se until the ninth century AD. No Apostles were recorded as bishops of your peripheral and meaningless church.

3. Therefore, your statement that "you" have written the Bible is quite ridiculous. BTW, Christians wrote only the New Testament, the Old Testament was written long before any of the Apostles were born.

What is your problem with Serbia? USA has killed more People only in Iraq than Serbia has ever killed, kills or will ever kill in it's much longer history than the US one.

Probably because usually you were under someone else power, and therefore without power of your own?

How wonderful. The same hand is also in Topkapi palace in Constantinople and mount Athos is Grease.

I'm sure our new Orthodox friend will claim now that since John the Baptist is a saint, he can do miracles such as growing a few extra limbs.

You probably wrote that new Bible to justify racism and slavery you had in USA, so you could comfort yourself, well it is okay to have slaves in my home, it is in the Bible. LOL And yet you talk about crimes...

My dear confused friend. I understand that it must be really hard to get your hands on a Bible in that backwards "country" of yours, but you should really try. For a beginner, any Bible will do, even one translated to that hideous Serbian-Croatian dialect of yours. Read it first and judge us later.

We will wait, ready to have an informed discussion about the contents of the Bible when you are done reading.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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Clearly you in your empty life without culture have never been present near the relic of a saint.

Sorry Charlie. I grew up surrounded by relic-slobbering Catholics, each church claiming to have a dead body part buried somewhere in the altar. Funny how when you step back and look at it reasonably, you find a hundred churches all claim to have the same pinky-finger bone of the same obscure saint (most of the popular saints have been done do death, even the cannibals like you won't believe more stories). The way to explain this is to say the piece is the size of a toothpick, or staple, or an ant's bullocks. It's absurd, but you people have been brainwashed so well that you don't even stop to think of it any more, you simply accept it as being true, and trip over each other for the opportunity to slobber all over yourselves with these goofy magical bones.

By the grace of God, their bodies don't rot, nor they stink, but they spread the most divine fragrance that no scientist can explain.

Oh ye of little knowledge. This state of incorruptibility is known. It's called Adipocere, also known as corpse, grave or mortuary wax. It is a wax-like organic substance formed by the anaerobic bacterial hydrolysis of fat in tissue, such as body fat in corpses. In its formation, putrefaction is replaced by a permanent firm cast of fatty tissues, internal organs and the face. If it was the sign of God, why would he bestow this honor or heretical Buddhists? The smell you guys like is conditioned, not unlike Pavlov's dogs salivating to the sound of a bell.

We don't worship saints, we ask them to pray to God for us, if you ask your friend to pray for you, does that mean you are worshiping your friend? What could you know after all with that racist Bible you wrote 1600 years after we Orthodox wrote the original one.

Save it. I know all the arguments. I used to offer them myself. In answer to your question, if I asked my friend to pray to me, then had a feast in his honor and gave him tokens of affection and bribery in hopes that he would magically make things work out in my favor, then yes, that would mean I was worshiping him. And my Bible is the same as yours, with a few Jewish books rightfully removed. Every chapter and verse you'll read here is in your own book. Don't trust me. Look yourself.

[Pravoslavac]

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Serbian Orthodox Church gained independence from Orthodox Church of Constantinople in 1219, it means Orthodox Church allowed Serbs to have their own Serbian bishops and to have worship and books in native language, that doesn't mean Serbian Orthodox Church is something new. And even so, Serbian Orthodox Church has more martyrs in world war 2 only than all the slaves you Baptists killed and enslaved with your fake Bible written by a king instead by witnesses of Christ. lol

You are one evil group of People that bring shame to Christianity. I would continue debating, but i always get some stupid warning because i have different opinion. Free speech. lol What did i expect after all, you teach racism and slavery. LOL Good luck meeting Christ with such teachings, heretics.

[Didymus Much]

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Really? Now you judge them how they pray?...

I didn't write the Bible, you idiot! That's their God telling them not to do that. I really don't care what they do.

...While you go to Church...

I'm atheist, thanks for asking (or looking at my awards, or noticing my "Arrogant Atheist Dick" title... ).

...Don't try history with me, Americans and history don't go together...

I'm Canadian, thanks for asking.

...Does USA have some anti-racist and anti-hate speech/preaching laws?...

All of the "racism" and "hate speech" you think you see here comes straight from the Bible (it's in your Bible, too, so don't bother trying that angle), the book you think is the word of God. Why do you hate the word of God so much?

[Mary Etheldreda]

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Serbian Orthodox Church gained independence from Orthodox Church of Constantinople in 1219

So much for being the church Christ built. You were born in war, and you live in spiritual oppression.

You are one evil group of People that bring shame to Christianity. I would continue debating, but i always get some stupid warning because i have different opinion. Free speech. lol What did i expect after all, you teach racism and slavery. LOL Good luck meeting Christ with such teachings, heretics.

We preach the Gospel. Please show me where the Holy Bible teaches us to avoid referring to race, or to avoid slavery.

[Basilissa]

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Serbian Orthodox Church gained independence from Orthodox Church of Constantinople in 1219, it means Orthodox Church allowed Serbs to have their own Serbian bishops and to have worship and books in native language, that doesn't mean Serbian Orthodox Church is something new.

You did not even bother to read what I wrote, did ya, sweetie?

And even so, Serbian Orthodox Church has more martyrs in world war 2 only than all the slaves you Baptists killed and enslaved with your fake Bible written by a king instead by witnesses of Christ. lol

Huh?

I am still patiently waiting for you to read the Bible in any translation (preferably more recent though than the Old Church Slavonic - unless it's a language you feel fluent enough in). All of it. Then we can talk.

You are one evil group of People that bring shame to Christianity.

No, dear, that title belongs to Catholic Church. Read some history. Please.

I would continue debating, but i always get some stupid warning because i have different opinion. Free speech. lol What did i expect after all, you teach racism and slavery. LOL Good luck meeting Christ with such teachings, heretics.

Thank you for your persecution. We are truly blessed by it (Matthew 5:10-12).

[James Hutchins]

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Welcome Prilosec, how long have you been a regular follower of Jesus? Were you terrified of the burning of Satan's brimstone or do you follow Jesus pre-emptively to Save(r) yourself from future horrors?

[James Hutchins]

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Serbian Orthodox Church gained independence from Orthodox Church of Constantinople in 1219, it means Orthodox Church allowed Serbs to have their own Serbian bishops and to have worship and books in native language, that doesn't mean Serbian Orthodox Church is something new. And even so, Serbian Orthodox Church has more martyrs in world war 2 only than all the slaves you Baptists killed and enslaved with your fake Bible written by a king instead by witnesses of Christ. lol

You are one evil group of People that bring shame to Christianity. I would continue debating, but i always get some stupid warning because i have different opinion. Free speech. lol What did i expect after all, you teach racism and slavery. LOL Good luck meeting Christ with such teachings, heretics.

Friend, you have some serious hate going on. I have heard that about you people. Why, even the ruskies hate you!
Friend, we follow the Holy Bible. Not some wacked out, abridged version with half of Gods words removed. We follow the whole kit and caboodle.
You should have your local back mousketeer get you a copy of the KJV. Read it. Follow it. Then and only then, can you call yourself a Christian.
YIC
JH

[Marko Loimaan-Aho]

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Serbian Orthodox Church gained independence from Orthodox Church of Constantinople in 1219, it means Orthodox Church allowed Serbs to have their own Serbian bishops and to have worship and books in native language, that doesn't mean Serbian Orthodox Church is something new. And even so, Serbian Orthodox Church has more martyrs in world war 2 only than all the slaves you Baptists killed and enslaved with your fake Bible written by a king instead by witnesses of Christ. lol

You are one evil group of People that bring shame to Christianity. I would continue debating, but i always get some stupid warning because i have different opinion. Free speech. lol What did i expect after all, you teach racism and slavery. LOL Good luck meeting Christ with such teachings, heretics.

I do not understand why do you come here mocking good True Christian people? What does it give you?

John 15:18, 20, 21

You know, True Christians are just more blessed because of you.

Matthew 5:11

I think your hatred comes from some demon that moved to live inside you during the soviet time in your land. Usually they are rectal demons.

Btw - your country can not be part of Europe because it is so far in the east.

[James Hutchins]

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Serbian Orthodox Church gained independence from Orthodox Church of Constantinople in 1219, it means Orthodox Church allowed Serbs to have their own Serbian bishops and to have worship and books in native language, that doesn't mean Serbian Orthodox Church is something new. And even so, Serbian Orthodox Church has more martyrs in world war 2 only than all the slaves you Baptists killed and enslaved with your fake Bible written by a king instead by witnesses of Christ. lol

You are one evil group of People that bring shame to Christianity. I would continue debating, but i always get some stupid warning because i have different opinion. Free speech. lol What did i expect after all, you teach racism and slavery. LOL Good luck meeting Christ with such teachings, heretics.

Friend, I'll simplify things for you as it is apparent explanations are too much for your little mind to handle.

Simply put, Catholicks are not Christians.
You pray to Mary, we pray to God.