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  • quaternium
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    • Apr 2015
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    #1

    Aren't we instructed to judge?

    I'm a newcomer and I'm very eager to find some Scripturally sound advice on the how the Bible instructs us to judge righteously our neighbors when we see them stumbling and living wrong.

    I am tired of being called a "hypocrite" by atheists when I tell them their going against God's will, and I try to tell them that "hypocrite" is OUR word as Christians, not theirs! And I know that we are called to expose sin and stamp it out!

    Unfortunately, my knowledge of Scripture is not ingrained yet as I was recently saved during my adult life (2 years ago). I currently go to the Full Gospel Tabernacle with Signs Following in Cairo, Illinois.

    Is there a FAQ or particular post(s) that may help me with my question? Thank you brethren. God bless Landover Baptist.
  • Elmer G. White
    Distinguished Professor of Prayer Healing and Creation Zoology (Baraminology)
    Victim of atheist scientific persecution
     
    • Apr 2014
    • 10271

    #2
    Re: Aren't we instructed to judge?

    Originally posted by quaternium View Post
    I'm a newcomer and I'm very eager to find some Scripturally sound advice on the how the Bible instructs us to judge righteously our neighbors when we see them stumbling and living wrong.

    I am tired of being called a "hypocrite" by atheists when I tell them their going against God's will, and I try to tell them that "hypocrite" is OUR word as Christians, not theirs! And I know that we are called to expose sin and stamp it out!

    Unfortunately, my knowledge of Scripture is not ingrained yet as I was recently saved during my adult life (2 years ago). I currently go to the Full Gospel Tabernacle with Signs Following in Cairo, Illinois.

    Is there a FAQ or particular post(s) that may help me with my question? Thank you brethren. God bless Landover Baptist.
    Glory! Welcome!

    That said, it must be awful to defend True Biblical(tm) knowledge aggainst false Christians but do not despair. Persecution lasts but some decades and Eternity awaits!

    Matthew 5:10
    Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

    As you mentioned no favorite verse, perhaps the one above would be of interest?

    Regarding you question about judgment. You'll find all your answers HERE.


    Yours in Christ,

    Elmer
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    • Billy Bob Jenkins
      Family Man of the Year 2010-2013
      About as Straight and Manly as you can get
      Hates anal sex. And trees.
      True Christian™
      • May 2010
      • 8337

      #3
      Re: Aren't we instructed to judge?

      Psalm 37:30 The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.
      I would just like to point out that this verse says the righteous talketh of judgment. It doesn't say unsaved trash should judge.
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      • James Hutchins
        True Christian™
        Just a Regular Nice Guy
         
        • Jun 2009
        • 29453

        #4
        Re: Aren't we instructed to judge?

        Originally posted by quaternium View Post
        I'm a newcomer and I'm very eager to find some Scripturally sound advice on the how the Bible instructs us to judge righteously our neighbors when we see them stumbling and living wrong.

        I am tired of being called a "hypocrite" by atheists when I tell them their going against God's will, and I try to tell them that "hypocrite" is OUR word as Christians, not theirs! And I know that we are called to expose sin and stamp it out!

        Unfortunately, my knowledge of Scripture is not ingrained yet as I was recently saved during my adult life (2 years ago). I currently go to the Full Gospel Tabernacle with Signs Following in Cairo, Illinois.

        Is there a FAQ or particular post(s) that may help me with my question? Thank you brethren. God bless Landover Baptist.
        Good question friend. There is. In fact, it has ALL the answers to lifes perplexing questions. It is the KJV Holy Bible. As simple a set of solutions you'll find no where else. Follow it. Do not second guess it (unless you think you know better than God!)

        Leviticus 19:15 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

        Psalm 37:30 The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.

        Proverbs 31:9 Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.

        John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

        1st Corinthians 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
        1st Corinthians 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

        1st Corinthians 6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
        1st Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
        1st Corinthians 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?.
        1st Corinthians 6:4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
        1st Corinthians 6:5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
        1st Corinthians 6:6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.
        (Notice in particular 6:5 where Paul urges us to Judge fellow "brethren" rather than leaving it up to civil authorities.)

        2nd Timothy 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
        2nd Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
        2nd Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
        2nd Timothy 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
        2nd Timothy 4:5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

        Understand, God empowers a True Christian(tm) but not the unsaved and unworthy:

        1 Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

        Now, in case you have doubt, let's see what God says, OK?
        Isaiah 29:14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.

        Matthew 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

        Luke 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

        John 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
        John 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear unto this day.

        John 12:39 Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,
        John 12:40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

        1st Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
        1st Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
        1st Corinthians 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
        1st Corinthians 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

        1st Corinthians 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
        1st Corinthians 1:24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
        1st Corinthians 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
        1st Corinthians 1:26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
        1st Corinthians 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

        1st Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
        1st Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

        1st Corinthians 3:18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
        1st Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
        1st Corinthians 3:20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.

        Jude 1:16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
        Jude 1:17
        But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
        Jude 1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
        Jude 1:19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
        Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
        Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
        Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
        Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
        Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
        Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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        • Alvin Moss
          Serving Jesus
          True Christian™
          • Aug 2013
          • 4468

          #5
          Re: Aren't we instructed to judge?

          Welcome then, fellow. Judgment has several meanings and I feel this has led to considerable confusion. There is the kind of judgment that tells you the oncoming car is too close and it will run over you if you try to cross the street. This is also similar to the kind of judgment we use to determine if a person is righteous or just another unsaved wretch. This is a required type of judgment. Those who suffer from poor judgment in this area are usually killed by trains or pet boa constrictors.

          God doesn't want us to pass judgment on others, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be judgmental. We must judge the mettle of those we meet, but we must not give a judgment.

          I hope that helps.
          God judgeth the righteous, And God is angry with the wicked every day- Psalm 7:11

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          • GOD=life
            WARNING: Do not attempt to debate. You will lose horribly.
            True Christian™
            • Jan 2010
            • 3263

            #6
            Re: Aren't we instructed to judge?

            Originally posted by quaternium View Post
            I'm a newcomer and I'm very eager to find some Scripturally sound advice on the how the Bible instructs us to judge righteously our neighbors when we see them stumbling and living wrong.
            Welcome, friend! The simple fact that you don't fall into that "don't just AT ALL" trap makes me hugely optimistic about your future

            I really have nothing to add to the other excellent responses you've received from our friendly community. I'm a little late right now for my volunteer work, but I suppose that we will have tons of time to chit-chat in Heaven!
            I take my orders from Jesus H. Christ, supernatural born US citizen

            Be wary of false Kumbaya Christians who use a highlighter and scissors to read the Bible. God wants us to read the lines, not between the lines. False Christians will go to Hell:
            Matthew 7:22
            Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
            Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

            Asking a Christian to prove God exists is like asking him to prove his phone rings because yours doesn't. Make that call yourself! Dial 0800-get-on-your-knees-and-pray.

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            • Faith_Machine
              Dyed-in-the-wool True Christian™
              True Christian™
              • Mar 2011
              • 10050

              #7
              Re: Aren't we instructed to judge?

              Praise Jesus, Quarterhorse, you sound like you have a good head on your shoulders. I wouldn't be saved today were it not for a few good Christians who had the courage to lovingly pass judgment on me and make me aware of God's mighty wrath!
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              • Pastor Ezekiel
                Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                 
                • Sep 2006
                • 78555

                #8
                Re: Aren't we instructed to judge?

                Originally posted by quaternium View Post
                I'm a newcomer and I'm very eager to find some Scripturally sound advice on the how the Bible instructs us to judge righteously our neighbors when we see them stumbling and living wrong.

                I am tired of being called a "hypocrite" by atheists when I tell them their going against God's will, and I try to tell them that "hypocrite" is OUR word as Christians, not theirs! And I know that we are called to expose sin and stamp it out!

                Unfortunately, my knowledge of Scripture is not ingrained yet as I was recently saved during my adult life (2 years ago). I currently go to the Full Gospel Tabernacle with Signs Following in Cairo, Illinois.

                Is there a FAQ or particular post(s) that may help me with my question? Thank you brethren. God bless Landover Baptist.
                Dear Quasimodo;

                This is called the INTRODUCTION section of the forum for a reason. This is the place where you tell us your name, age, gender, hometown, denomination, and favorite Scriptures. It is not the place to ask questions which could easily be found by using the "search" function.

                YIC,

                --Pastor Ezekiel

                PS. You might want to take a look at THIS sermon.
                Who Will Jesus Damn?

                Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                • FranklinAndPearl
                  True Christians™
                  True Christian™
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 163

                  #9
                  Re: Aren't we instructed to judge?

                  Originally posted by quaternium View Post
                  I am tired of being called a "hypocrite" by atheists when I tell them their going against God's will, and I try to tell them that "hypocrite" is OUR word as Christians, not theirs!

                  Hi dear,

                  Another word you may want to learn is 'they're'. It is a contraction for "they are", and is not exchangeable with 'their'.

                  I only correct you because of Matthew 7:12. If I were being a foolish pig in regards to simple communication, I would gladly wish others to correct me! I know my dear Franklin would jump at the chance to do so, LOL.

                  Walking with Christ,

                  Pearl
                  Just a loving, saved, MARRIED HETEROSEXUAL couple sharing this account! Wwwwwwwwwwwwwwww Hi Carol, not sure why the Face book isn't typing out my letters, LOL. I hope you can see this message, none of the letters are going in the box. Maybe they are invisible? We do not really understand Computers or Technology. I will have to ask Anita about this. See you tomor

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                  • Cranky Old Man
                    Trying to out-Methuselah Methuselah
                    You kids get off his lawn!
                     
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 22371

                    #10
                    Re: Aren't we instructed to judge?

                    Originally posted by quaternium View Post
                    Is there a FAQ
                    There are no shortcuts to salvation! Just study the ENTIRE Bible and follow ALL of it's rules! If you are lazy and do only 99.999%, you will burn in Hell!

                    James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."
                    5 Reasons why GOD HATES WOMEN!
                    To most "Christians" The Bible is like a license agreement. They just scroll to the bottom and click "I agree". All those "Christians" will burn in Hell!
                    James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

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                    • DemonThinker96
                      Unsaved trash, repulsive teenaged demon
                      • Apr 2014
                      • 122

                      #11
                      Re: Aren't we instructed to judge?

                      Originally posted by quaternium View Post
                      I'm a newcomer and I'm very eager to find some Scripturally sound advice on the how the Bible instructs us to judge righteously our neighbors when we see them stumbling and living wrong.

                      I am tired of being called a "hypocrite" by atheists when I tell them their going against God's will, and I try to tell them that "hypocrite" is OUR word as Christians, not theirs! And I know that we are called to expose sin and stamp it out!

                      Unfortunately, my knowledge of Scripture is not ingrained yet as I was recently saved during my adult life (2 years ago). I currently go to the Full Gospel Tabernacle with Signs Following in Cairo, Illinois.

                      Is there a FAQ or particular post(s) that may help me with my question? Thank you brethren. God bless Landover Baptist.
                      From what I've heard about Christianity, NO, you are NOT supposed to judge others.


                      But since the bible is fiction it doesn't matter
                      Rom.1:26-27
                      For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature. And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

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                      • Pastor Ezekiel
                        Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                         
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 78555

                        #12
                        Re: Aren't we instructed to judge?

                        Originally posted by DemonThinker96 View Post
                        From what I've heard about Christianity, NO, you are NOT supposed to judge others.


                        But since the bible is fiction it doesn't matter
                        From what you've heard? So you're willing to gamble your Salvation(r) based on a third hand rumor? Think how stupid you'll feel when you get killed by Jesus and win up in hell, where you will be anally raped by every demon in his dark army.

                        Why don't you read the Holy Word of God for yourself, and find out. Jesus wants to love you. Start with my sermon HERE.

                        I'm praying for you, demon scum.
                        Who Will Jesus Damn?

                        Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                        Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                        Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                        • Basilissa
                          South of the Border outreach program
                          True Christian™
                           
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 12975

                          #13
                          Re: Aren't we instructed to judge?

                          Originally posted by DemonThinker96 View Post
                          From what I've heard about Christianity, NO, you are NOT supposed to judge others.
                          Yes, we are supposed to judge others. And since you're probably too lazy to click on that link, here is a helpful quote:

                          We CAN Judge Others!

                          Not only can you not find a single instance where judging in itself is prohibited, you find many verses which command us to judge!
                          Leviticus 19:15 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

                          Psalm 37:30 The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.

                          John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

                          1st Corinthians 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
                          1st Corinthians 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

                          1st Corinthians 6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
                          1st Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
                          1st Corinthians 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?.
                          1st Corinthians 6:4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
                          1st Corinthians 6:5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
                          1st Corinthians 6:6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.

                          1 Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
                          ...And so on. We can see from the verses above that God does allow judgment under certain conditions, namely: Only True Christians™ can judge. We are righteous (notice all the references to righteous judgment) and therefore the only ones capable of judging others. Conversely, those that are unsaved have no right to judge at all. So, God does have limits placed on judgment and those are the limits.

                          Again, I must point reiterate, nowhere in the Bible does it tell us not to judge. Period. I hope this exegesis of Matthew 7:1-5 has been enlightening for you and and you will refrain from looking like an idiot in the future by claiming that "Jesus said we can't judge others".
                          ...and I do invite you to click on the link to read the rest.

                          But since the bible is fiction it doesn't matter
                          It looks like these "Christians" from whom you've heard about "Christianity" think this way. It makes me sad. Why would people call themselves "Christians" if they don't believe the Bible?!
                          God created fossils to test our faith.

                          * * *

                          My favorite LBC sermons:
                          True Christians are Perfect!
                          True Christian™ Love.
                          Salvation™ made Easy!
                          You can’t be a Christian if you don’t believe the Old Testament.
                          Jesus is impolite. Deal with it.
                          Jesus is xenophobic and so should we.
                          Sanctity of Life is NOT a Biblical Concept.
                          Biblical view on modern-day slavery.
                          The Immorality of the "Universal Declaration of Human Rights."
                          Geneva Conventions vs. The Holy Bible.
                          God HATES Rational Thinking!
                          True Christian™ Man as a spitting image of God.

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