[Elmer G. White]

Re: Please allow me to introduce myself

Science lifts spacecraft into orbit and beyond. It produces medicines that work. It has given us computers and the internet, which you are busy abusing. You may well owe your life to an atheistic gay mathematician - Alan Turing. (I'm not gay myself, BTW, not that it's relevant.) I've made a pilgrimage to Bletchley Park. Have you?

Let us contemplate on this for a minute. What do you think are your personal chances of getting to travel to the Firmament (Genesis 1:6) with one of these rockets? Highly unlikely? I thought so. In contrast, our chances of traveling up to and beyond the Firmament are 100% certain with the assistance of Jesus. He has personally promised to give us access to His Eternal dwelling place!

1 Peter 2:9
But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

Medicines work for sinners but do not give Eternal Life. Prayer works much better, it heals and gives Eternal Life.

James 5:14
Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:

Computers are totally OK as they enable us to spread the good news of Jesus Christ to a wider audience. That way the sin of sodomy by Turing can be recycled into the Goodness of God! Jesus always wins!

Romans 12:21
Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

Our goodness overcomes all evil!


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[Barry Desborough]

Re: Please allow me to introduce myself

Let us contemplate on this for a minute. What do you think are your personal chances of getting to travel to the Firmament (Genesis 1:6) with one of these rockets? Highly unlikely? I thought so. In contrast, our chances of traveling up to and beyond the Firmament are 100% certain with the assistance of Jesus. He has personally promised to give us access to His Eternal dwelling place!

1 Peter 2:9
But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

Medicines work for sinners but do not give Eternal Life. Prayer works much better, it heals and gives Eternal Life.

James 5:14
Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:

Computers are totally OK as they enable us to spread the good news of Jesus Christ to a wider audience. That way the sin of sodomy by Turing can be recycled into the Goodness of God! Jesus always wins!

Romans 12:21
Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

Our goodness overcomes all evil!


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

Is the firmament firm? What happens if you crash into it at Mach 5 or more? What happened to Voyager when it did so?

[James Hutchins]

Re: Please allow me to introduce myself

Is the firmament firm? What happens if you crash into it at Mach 5 or more? What happened to Voyager when it did so?

Visual aids seem to help 'your kind'.

[Barry Desborough]

Re: Please allow me to introduce myself

Visual aids seem to help 'your kind'.

Oh, my screaming heck! I've landed on a site full of raving loonies!

[Basilissa]

Re: Please allow me to introduce myself

Oh, my screaming heck! I've landed on a site full of raving loonies!

Have you read the Bible yet?

All answers you seek are there:

[Didymus Much]

Re: Please allow me to introduce myself

Oh, my screaming heck! I've landed on a site full of raving loonies!

Some just can't handle the Truth(tm).


Sad.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Please allow me to introduce myself

Oh, my screaming heck! I've landed on a site full of raving loonies!

Nonsense. Reading my Betty Crocker cookbook and following the instructions does not make me a "raving loonie." It makes me a good cook.

Reading and following the instructions to install a new water heater in the basement doesn't make Mr. Etheldreda a "raving loonie." It makes him a responsible home-owner.

Reading instructions for powering machines with steam and following the directions to make a rocked does not make one a "raving loonie rocket scientist." It makes them a hero.

This man is about to launch himself in his homemade rocket to prove the Earth is flat

“It’ll shut the door on this ball earth,” Hughes said in a fundraising interview with a flat-Earth group for Saturday’s flight. Theories discussed during the interview included NASA being controlled by round-Earth Freemasons and Elon Musk making fake rockets from blimps.

Hughes promised the flat-Earth community that he would expose the conspiracy with his steam-powered rocket, which will launch from a heavily modified mobile home — though he acknowledged that he still had much to learn about rocket science.

“This whole tech thing,” he said in the June interview. “I’m really behind the eight ball.”

[James Hutchins]

Re: Please allow me to introduce myself

Oh, my screaming heck! I've landed on a site full of raving loonies!

Barry, we simply follow the irrefutable Word of God(c). Man has not changed since He created us with His Perfect Hands(r). Every detail of man was formed by Him in requisite detail. He created the Heavens and the Earth. All of this and more is in the Greatest Story Ever Told, the Holy Bible.
You honestly do not think that the world is billions of years old (there is simply not that much dust) and the all of Gods Creatures were formed out out pure chance? Why do you think the Earth is the center of the Universe. Dumb luck?

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Please allow me to introduce myself

I created this page especially for the hard of understanding Adapted from Wikipedia: "By the year AD 802,701, humanity has evolved into two separate species: the Eloi and the Morlocks. The Eloi live a life of ease on the surface, while the Morlocks live underground, tending machinery and providing for the Eloi. Having nothing they need to do, the Eloi have slowly become like cattle, smaller than modern humans with sub-human intelligence. All they do is feed, play, and mate. When one of them, Weena, falls into a river, none of the other Eloi help her. She is rescued instead by the Time Traveler. Every so often the Morlocks capture individual Eloi for food, and because this typically happens on moonless nights, the Eloi are terrified of darkness." How would we prove that the Eloi and the Morlocks had indeed both descended from modern humans? Well, we have signatures in our DNA that were written by retroviruses. They put their DNA into the DNA of our cells to "fool" them into making new retroviruses. Sometimes, a retrovirus puts its DNA into the DNA of an egg or sperm cell. When this happens, it becomes heritable - you can inherit it from your parents and pass it down to your offspring. These heritable bits of viral DNA are called ERVs - Endogenous RetroViruses. Fortunately, they no longer fully perform their original functions, otherwise, humans would be extinct. The signature of any endogenous retrovirus is that it can be found in exactly the same place in the DNA of every single one of your nuclear cells (every cell with a nucleus - which is most of them). The viral DNA ends up in the same place because it, along with all the rest of your DNA, is copied from the DNA of the original single cell you started out as. In contrast, the viral DNA that you have acquired from viruses in the environment is not present in all of your nuclear cells, and in those where it is present, the viral DNA ends up in different points in your DNA, comparing one infected cell with another.

To recap:

Viral DNA in the same place in the DNA of every cell means that it is inherited. Viral DNA in different places in only some of your cells means that you have caught a virus from the environment. Now if we find that all the Eloi have the same viral DNA as us, in every cell, in exactly the same places as us, we know that they must have inherited it from us, and therefore we are their ancestors. The same goes for the Morlocks. The same viral DNA in the same places in every cell means that the Morlocks also descend from us. Note that we do not even need to look at our own DNA! If we find the same viral DNA in the same places in every cell of every Eloi and Morlock, they have to have had common ancestors from which they inherited it (us!). Bear this in mind when the ERV FAQ mentions, not Eloi and Morlocks, but humans and chimpanzees!

irrelevant graphic removed

See all the yellow stuff? That contradicts your previous position which in any case I'd already refuted. Stop obsessing over Weena and quote from The Bible to support your claims. It may have escaped your notice that Morlocks are a future species and since Weena does not look like a chimpanzee I suppose in your analogy they are supposed to be the beast species. The next problem for you is that Morlocks control the technology. The real problem for you though is the other bit. You were quite specific in your earlier response as follows:

Are you suggesting the retroviruses are living inside chromosomes

I'm not 'suggesting' that ERVs exist inside our chromosomes. We know that they do

You made a false claim. Not only false in fact but false according to the literature you referred to. Or thought you had. I don't know if you've ever actually read it. Then you posted some more stuff, including a graphic demonstrating exactly what I'd posted to refute your claim about what the literature presented!

It is not the virus living in our chromosomes at all. It is some form of nucleic acid supposed to be able to make viruses, that is to say a FRAGMENT of a virus. The literature you keep citing contradicts your claims. So you change what you're claiming. That is called moving the goalposts and a perfect textbook example. Excellent for future use, so thanks for that!

Since we know that humans are a separate creation your babble comes into the same category as trying to work out the shape of a triangle. Sure, we can read about non-Eclidean triangles (Eloi) and 4-dimensional triangles (Morlocks) and even spray them with viruses (sneezing in the dark) but they are all still triangles. The thing is that when your light goes out all that remains is darkness. In reality there's no equivalent of finding your time machine and going home. An analogy is sometimes useful but eventually all analogies break down. Jesus explained it this way:

JOHN 8 .KJV . look up
12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.

The Bible illuminates aspects of life which are reliable and unchanging facts. The Bible is consistent. It has been preserved by God so that we will know when false teaching, often masquerading as science, is presented and so that we can stay on the narrow path leading to Salvation. Whether or not viruses exist, where they live, how they reproduce, all these things are side issues because whatever a virus does do we know it does not produce new species of human. God has told us where humans come from, how the male and the female were created, how we descended into the dark abyss of sin and how we may be rescued. The humans to be resurrected first, Christians, will not be some virus infected specimens as you are claiming. Perhaps the others who get resurrected later will be contaminated, I don't know, but we will be made new in Christ. Your self-refuting claims deny this unchanging fact, a fact of life made clear for us in The Bible.

I THESSALONIANS 4 .KJV . look up
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first.

[Brother Gonzalez]

Re: Please allow me to introduce myself

This guy cannot difference beteween a PM (with an email alert) and spam.

News: this site has a communication system. It is not going to change for you.
Do you really think this site will change its policies because of you? I knew atheists were all about ego, but you are the uber-ego.


We are the only True Christians, not a bunch of loonies. If we start to disregard Bible verses, then there is nothing left behind. If we start with interpretations, we can say what we want. And then, there is no more word of God, so why following it?


And before you start with the song about a book written by fallible men, did you conduct any research on, let's say, evolution? Or do you just follow what the liberal state has told you at school, and atheist scientist have written in books?


Have you ever been in space, or you just follow what the TV says? Or what other people has written in books?


I have conducted experiments on the shape of the Earth, all indicated in the following thread:

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=45427

And the result is: the Bible is right, the Earth is flat.

[Barry Desborough]

Re: Please allow me to introduce myself

Oh, my screaming heck! I've landed on a site full of raving loonies!

_STILL_ getting spammed by loonies via email. What is it that is so hard to understand? If you want to talk with me, post what you want to say to me in this thread. It's not that difficult.

[Barry Desborough]

Re: Please allow me to introduce myself

See all the yellow stuff? That contradicts your previous position which in any case I'd already refuted. Stop obsessing over Weena and quote from The Bible to support your claims. It may have escaped your notice that Morlocks are a future species and since Weena does not look like a chimpanzee I suppose in your analogy they are supposed to be the beast species. The next problem for you is that Morlocks control the technology. The real problem for you though is the other bit. You were quite specific in your earlier response as follows:

You made a false claim. Not only false in fact but false according to the literature you referred to. Or thought you had. I don't know if you've ever actually read it. Then you posted some more stuff, including a graphic demonstrating exactly what I'd posted to refute your claim about what the literature presented!

It is not the virus living in our chromosomes at all. It is some form of nucleic acid supposed to be able to make viruses, that is to say a FRAGMENT of a virus. The literature you keep citing contradicts your claims. So you change what you're claiming. That is called moving the goalposts and a perfect textbook example. Excellent for future use, so thanks for that!

Since we know that humans are a separate creation your babble comes into the same category as trying to work out the shape of a triangle. Sure, we can read about non-Eclidean triangles (Eloi) and 4-dimensional triangles (Morlocks) and even spray them with viruses (sneezing in the dark) but they are all still triangles. The thing is that when your light goes out all that remains is darkness. In reality there's no equivalent of finding your time machine and going home. An analogy is sometimes useful but eventually all analogies break down. Jesus explained it this way:

JOHN 8 .KJV . look up
12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.

The Bible illuminates aspects of life which are reliable and unchanging facts. The Bible is consistent. It has been preserved by God so that we will know when false teaching, often masquerading as science, is presented and so that we can stay on the narrow path leading to Salvation. Whether or not viruses exist, where they live, how they reproduce, all these things are side issues because whatever a virus does do we know it does not produce new species of human. God has told us where humans come from, how the male and the female were created, how we descended into the dark abyss of sin and how we may be rescued. The humans to be resurrected first, Christians, will not be some virus infected specimens as you are claiming. Perhaps the others who get resurrected later will be contaminated, I don't know, but we will be made new in Christ. Your self-refuting claims deny this unchanging fact, a fact of life made clear for us in The Bible.

I THESSALONIANS 4 .KJV . look up
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first.

Don't hold me responsible for your lack of comprehension. You can always ask me for further clarification, but I can't force you to do so. That request has to come from you.

[Barry Desborough]

Re: Please allow me to introduce myself

This guy cannot difference beteween a PM (with an email alert) and spam.

News: this site has a communication system. It is not going to change for you.
Do you really think this site will change its policies because of you? I knew atheists were all about ego, but you are the uber-ego.


We are the only True Christians, not a bunch of loonies. If we start to disregard Bible verses, then there is nothing left behind. If we start with interpretations, we can say what we want. And then, there is no more word of God, so why following it?


And before you start with the song about a book written by fallible men, did you conduct any research on, let's say, evolution? Or do you just follow what the liberal state has told you at school, and atheist scientist have written in books?


Have you ever been in space, or you just follow what the TV says? Or what other people has written in books?


I have conducted experiments on the shape of the Earth, all indicated in the following thread:

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=45427

And the result is: the Bible is right, the Earth is flat.

Hillarious! Thanks for such an entertaining post

[Elmer G. White]

Re: Please allow me to introduce myself

_STILL_ getting spammed by loonies via email. What is it that is so hard to understand? If you want to talk with me, post what you want to say to me in this thread. It's not that difficult.

Dear sinner,

Do you read any of the posts written by other people on this thread? Maybe the problem is your adblock and your pop-up block?

Actually, we have ample proof that your blocks are not only preventing commercial messages but also hindering Jesus from doing His job of Saving you. This proof is, obviously, in the Bible.

Romans 14:13
Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.

The messages you dismiss as cheap tins of conserved pork would help you tremendously on your Path to Christ!


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Please allow me to introduce myself

You can always ask me for further clarification

There will be no requests from me for anything. We have all read the links you've posted and all seen how they absolutely exposed your ignorance. When this was pointed out you immediately claimed something different. Your second claim about viruses was in line with the link but I doubt that you have any awareness of that.

Further clarification of your sources can only come from the sources themselves. We all know what they say.—.including what they say about evolution.—.which is how we know they are false. Jesus did not understand about evolution and yet Jesus created the universe. Are you saying that Jesus is ignorant? Well you probably are so I'll go on to my next question. If you bought a helicopter and took your mother out for a demonstration would you read the manufacturer's information or not?

BELL 206-BIII	SPECIFICATIONS
Maximum Gross Weight	3,200 lbs
Average basic weight	2,000 lbs
External sling load	1,000 lbs
Fuel capacity	91 gal / 618 lbs
Fuel consumption	30 gph / 204 pph
Average cruise speed	104 kts / 120 mph
Maximum range	260 nm / 300 miles
Passenger seats	4 passengers plus pilot

"Oooo! Isn't it a nice blue!" she says and you could nod smugly. "Hop in, I've put some fuel in, let's go for a ride," but have you really got enough? The specifications say 30 gallons for an hour. You know better and have checked it out: there's 9 gallons in the tank, plenty for a half hour flight. In you both get, off you zoom, wheeeeee! "I'm so proud of you Barry," she says. "Just think, my little Barry flying his own helicopter!" and then it runs out of fuel. Faster and faster it plummets your mother inside with you beside her desperate to recall that emergency landing you wouldn't need, desperate to save her life. "Oh Barry.." she weeps looking at you with tears in her eyes as you crash killing her.

When we decide we know better than Jesus about the wonderful blue world He created for us the consequences are worse that simply crashing a helicopter. That is why He has given us specifications about where we come from and how to live our lives. There are people who think they know better than the manufacturer's handbook, people who don't care how many lives they crash to support their own delusions. Are you one of those people Barry?