[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Hello Again

Mary,

I am honestly trying to follow your logic and the sense of these verses here in Matthew.

I don't see gay men or raped women anywhere in this passage.

They make up the souls populating Hell (Matthew 13:40-42; 13:49-50).

But I see your idea of "legal execution" is a directly entry into the punishment of hell with no chance of mercy?

Jesus offers a chance of mercy to those who believe He temporarily sacrificed Himself (1 Corinthians 15:4) unto Himself (1 Timothy 2:6) to appease His Divine and Infinite Wrath (Romans 3:25) that only He could satisfy (Romans 6:23) because Man is made sinful and utterly unpalatable to Him (Revelation 21:27) unless he is Born Again (John 3:3) and becomes a New Creature (2 Corinthians 5:17), essentially a walking, talking, fleshbag existing to do His bidding (1 Corinthians 6:19). How is that so confusing? Once the timer is up, once the old ticker stops dear, the opportunity is over.

What is your view of "an eternity of pain and torment" and what part does "legal execution" play into that?

My view of "an eternity of pain and torment" is that it is one to be avoided at all costs. All costs. There is nothing, no thing, no experience, no relationship, no "being true to yourself" baloney that is worth an eternity of pain and torment. Remember when Christ said to take up your cross and follow Him (Luke 9:23)? Well, that must have been confusing of course to His disciples at the time who didn't know He was going to be hung on a cross, but it's a message to the rest of us who know how His story ends. We are to sacrifice our own needs and desires and spend a life as a slave to Christ and in return, He may have chosen us from the very beginning of time to spend eternity with Him (Ephesians 1:4).

Legal execution is akin to the surgery that cuts out cancer. When sinners persuade others to follow them and reject the Spirit of God, we all suffer. In our great United States, we are limited in our ability to execute sinners (1 Peter 2:13-17), being forced to find a secular reason or appeal to secular morality to stir the feelings of the jurors in a jury. But Jesus is on our side! Already President Trump has made room for a Religious Task Force that promises to incorporate Biblical Truths into our legal system, and it won't be long before Biblically sanctioned executions will start cleaning up our streets!


Glory!

[biatch77]

Re: It's me again

Beautiful! Absolutely wonderful!!!

Who on earth would ever wanna be a part of this

I've seen the original costumes boy are they

[Dana723]

Re: It's me again

Beautiful! Absolutely wonderful!!!

You would like that, perv. Especially the men in tights.

[OneFailure]

Re: Hello Again

Unless you are trying to beat the current number of posts made by one person, you might try combining all of your posts into one easy-to-read post.



Plus, paragraphs are nice.

I'm not trying to beat the current number of posts

[OneFailure]

Re: Hello Again

Jesus is God. They are a three-in-one combo with the Holy Ghost. If they were three different deities Christianity would not have the right to call itself a "monotheistic" religion, it would be yet another polytheistic one.

And who do you think created Hell? It's like saying, that Inquisition did not torture people, it was just the machines they used that tortured people.

She did not say that. You, however, are free to draw your own conclusions based on 1) the contents of the Holy Bible and 2) the history of the world.

And who, do you think, created the devil, and for what purpose?

Here is the answer for ya:

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the Lord hath not done it?

Of course He does. He gives cancer to little children. If that's not torture then I don't know what is.

He lets cancer roam free. He doesn't give it to people directly. He does however stricken some sinners with ailments of sorts but not cancer

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Hello Again

He does however stricken some sinners with ailments of sorts but not cancer

Says who?

[Basilissa]

Re: Hello Again

He lets cancer roam free. He doesn't give it to people directly.

God created cancer in the first place, even though He did not have to. And, as He knows everything, He knew about every little child who would have been suffering from it in the future. In my book, that constitutes giving it to these children directly.

He does however stricken some sinners with ailments of sorts but not cancer

Are you suggesting that some things, such as cancer, are out of God's control? In other words, are you suggesting that God is not omnipotent?

[Dolores de Barriga]

Re: Hello

He lets cancer roam free. He doesn't give it to people directly. He does however stricken some sinners with ailments of sorts but not cancer

Hello Mr. One!

I have been reading your posts with much interest despite having trouble understanding your formatting style. Your posts would be much easier to understand if you 1) quoted the posts you are replying to and 2) used the multiquote function, which is conveniently located next to the quote button.


Anyway. If you see parents letting a vicious dog enter the room where their little children are playing, leading to the children being severely bitten by the dog, what would be your first instinct: to blame the dog for being vicious, or to blame the parents for letting the dog in?


You see, the situation with God and cancer is quite similar. The Bible tells us that God created everything, the good and the bad. That includes bacteria, viruses, malignant mutations, and other causes of cancer. God let the dog in by creating cancer. So whose - or should I ask, Whose - fault it is that little children are suffering?


Now, a related question is: why? Why does God let cancer kill little children? Is it because He enjoys watching people suffering? Or maybe He is unable to do anything about it, which would be a direct contradiction of the omnipotent God doctrine?

[OneFailure]

Re: Hello

Hello Mr. One!

I have been reading your posts with much interest despite having trouble understanding your formatting style. Your posts would be much easier to understand if you 1) quoted the posts you are replying to and 2) used the multiquote function, which is conveniently located next to the quote button.

I'll start doing that

Anyway. If you see parents letting a vicious dog enter the room where their little children are playing, leading to the children being severely bitten by the dog, what would be your first instinct: to blame the dog for being vicious, or to blame the parents for letting the dog in?

I'm not answering that


You see, the situation with God and cancer is quite similar. The Bible tells us that God created everything, the good and the bad. That includes bacteria, viruses, malignant mutations, and other causes of cancer. God let the dog in by creating cancer. So whose - or should I ask, Whose - fault it is that little children are suffering?

God did not create cancer


Now, a related question is: why? Why does God let cancer kill little children? Is it because He enjoys watching people suffering? Or maybe He is unable to do anything about it, which would be a direct contradiction of the omnipotent God doctrine?

God did not create cancer

[Dolores de Barriga]

Re: Hello

God did not create cancer

Hello again Mr. One. I am unsure now if we are talking about the same deity. I am talking about God - Creator of everything, really everything, including cancerous cells. You seem to be thinking about some other god who did not create everything?

[Didymus Much]

Re: Hello

God did not create cancer

Hello again Mr. One. I am unsure now if we are talking about the same deity...

You're not. One4somethingindeterminate is looking for a bestie, not a God who demands fear and obedience (in that order).

Deuteronomy 6:2 "That thou mightest fear the Lord thy God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command thee, thou, and thy son, and thy son’s son, all the days of thy life; and that thy days may be prolonged."

Deuteronomy 13:4 "Ye shall walk after the Lord your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him."

Psalm 111:10 "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom:A good understanding have all they that do his commandments:
His praise endureth for ever."

And especially, Ecclesiastes 12:13 "Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man."

[Vengeance Puriel]

Re: Hello

God did not create cancer

if you say man did your wrong, the sun gives you skin cancer and who made the sun? And therefore made cancer.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: It's not me torturing you, it's my inability to make a valid argument

I can't see how there's any room for discussion really. Jesus made the universe. Some people get cute and claim the universe isn't all there is so whoever created it didn't create everything after all, there being multiple universes known in aggregate as the multiverse. We do get to hear these claims.

Two responses cover this. Either one will do. Firstly, the word universe signifies "that of which there is only one" so however many different observable universes there may be (or seem to be) such local phenomena taken together are the universe. It would comprise all matter, all dimensions, all radiation, all forces.

The other response is to cook up a new word. Cosmos is the word proposed. The Bible does not present any such difficulty and is very clear on the topic.

John 1:1-3, 14-17 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Who is this Word, without whom was not any thing made that was made?
Notice how God pre-empts nitpicking about multiverses and universes.

14-17 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us.….full of grace and truth. John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me. And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

The Bible tells us about Jesus. There is no other source. If you dream about a Jesus with 25 heads or with an elephant's trunk and 12,000 arms or even a lump of rock emitting "energies" those are not Jesus. They are just dreams. If you think they're real, and there are people who worship such things, then they're demons. No-one inspired by The Holy Ghost contradicts God. But still it could be claimed that the passage I've quoted refers to fairies or Martians or something and the bit about grace and truth coming by Jesus Christ was just tacked on for extra information.

Mark 1:6-9 John was clothed with camel's hair, and with a girdle of a skin about his loins; and he did eat locusts and wild honey; and preached, saying, There cometh one mightier than I after me, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to stoop down and unloose. I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost. And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan.

The Bible is explaining about Jesus. Jesus made everything, even invisible forces and unknown regions of Creation are covered, in more detail in Colossians 1:16-18, which brings us back to Judges. The victories and triumphs described are attributed to God. Which God? Zeus? Confucius? The Minotaur? It's pretty easy to answer this, too. Clearly it's the only real God, the One who created everything. Both Jephthah and Deborah affirm this even as they celebrate His majesty and power. This is Jesus. The triumphs described are His and the suffering dished out, in His mercy, is as plain as the history is accurate whether from Eden or Egypt or from the future history recorded in Revelation.

Making up a different Jesus, the Son of a different "God" and giving Him different characteristics for any reason is a direct contradiction of what He has told us about Himself. No-one making any such claim is a Christian. If I am wrong about this, please provide the source of your new information so that I can be corrected if your sources hold water. But so far they're looking pretty leaky to me.

[OneFailure]

Re: It's not me torturing you, it's my inability to make a valid argument

I can't see how there's any room for discussion really. Jesus made the universe. Some people get cute and claim the universe isn't all there is so whoever created it didn't create everything after all, there being multiple universes known in aggregate as the multiverse. We do get to hear these claims.

Two responses cover this. Either one will do. Firstly, the word universe signifies "that of which there is only one" so however many different observable universes there may be (or seem to be) such local phenomena taken together are the universe. It would comprise all matter, all dimensions, all radiation, all forces.

The other response is to cook up a new word. Cosmos is the word proposed. The Bible does not present any such difficulty and is very clear on the topic.

John 1:1-3, 14-17 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Who is this Word, without whom was not any thing made that was made?
Notice how God pre-empts nitpicking about multiverses and universes.

14-17 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us.….full of grace and truth. John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me. And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

The Bible tells us about Jesus. There is no other source. If you dream about a Jesus with 25 heads or with an elephant's trunk and 12,000 arms or even a lump of rock emitting "energies" those are not Jesus. They are just dreams. If you think they're real, and there are people who worship such things, then they're demons. No-one inspired by The Holy Ghost contradicts God. But still it could be claimed that the passage I've quoted refers to fairies or Martians or something and the bit about grace and truth coming by Jesus Christ was just tacked on for extra information.

Mark 1:6-9 John was clothed with camel's hair, and with a girdle of a skin about his loins; and he did eat locusts and wild honey; and preached, saying, There cometh one mightier than I after me, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to stoop down and unloose. I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost. And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan.

The Bible is explaining about Jesus. Jesus made everything, even invisible forces and unknown regions of Creation are covered, in more detail in Colossians 1:16-18, which brings us back to Judges. The victories and triumphs described are attributed to God. Which God? Zeus? Confucius? The Minotaur? It's pretty easy to answer this, too. Clearly it's the only real God, the One who created everything. Both Jephthah and Deborah affirm this even as they celebrate His majesty and power. This is Jesus. The triumphs described are His and the suffering dished out, in His mercy, is as plain as the history is accurate whether from Eden or Egypt or from the future history recorded in Revelation.

Making up a different Jesus, the Son of a different "God" and giving Him different characteristics for any reason is a direct contradiction of what He has told us about Himself. No-one making any such claim is a Christian. If I am wrong about this, please provide the source of your new information so that I can be corrected if your sources hold water. But so far they're looking pretty leaky to me.

Okay

[OneFailure]

Re: It's me again

I don't mean to make a second introduction. The reason why I'm writing this is because I want to lay out my schedule. If you don't hear from me on this website for a few days it's because I just started my ballet class I'm planning to take. I'm going to try and post here each day but if I can't it's because I'm busy. God bless each and everyone of you

I'm starting Ballet class this Monday. Pray that I don't mess up to badly