I want to discuss some things.

[Scoutman03]

Hey everyone. I'm Anna and I've been here for about a week, and you may or may not have seen me pop up a few times. I would like to make it clear i don't want or mean to be disrespectful, but if you don't respect me as a person, I won't respect you. I live by the rule of 'Treat others the way you want to be treated.' and 'You deserve everything you give.' And I already know some people are going to disagree with that which I am happy to discuss normally, trying to see your point of view if you try to see mine. Just a few random things about me-I am pro-vax
-I am pro-life
-I am republican although I am open to other ideas (Even if I disagree)
-I am a PC + Console gamer (As some of you may already know
-My favorite genre of music is pop and Clean rap (Nf is a good example)
-I enjoy drawing
-I play the guitar
-I go to church every Sunday

-My favorite bible verse is James 4:12 "There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But- who are you to Judge your neighbor?"

If you wanna talk about anything then i'm open and willing.

[James Hutchins]

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Welcome Andy, nice of you to finally make a half butted introduction. I suppose something is better than nothing. Tell me, when you pray, do you mean it or are you just giving lip service to Jesus
I see you use the typical cherry picked verse to help justify your life of sin.

Leviticus 19:15 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

Psalm 37:30 The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.

Proverbs 31:9 Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.

John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

1st Corinthians 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
1st Corinthians 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

1st Corinthians 6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
1st Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
1st Corinthians 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?.
1st Corinthians 6:4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
1st Corinthians 6:5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
1st Corinthians 6:6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.
(Notice in particular 6:5 where Paul urges us to Judge fellow "brethren" rather than leaving it up to civil authorities.)

2nd Timothy 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2nd Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2nd Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2nd Timothy 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
2nd Timothy 4:5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

Isaiah 29:14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.

Matthew 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Luke 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

John 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
John 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear unto this day.

John 12:39 Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,
John 12:40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

1st Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
1st Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1st Corinthians 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
1st Corinthians 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

1st Corinthians 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
1st Corinthians 1:24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
1st Corinthians 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
1st Corinthians 1:26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
1st Corinthians 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

1st Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1st Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

1st Corinthians 3:18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
1st Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
1st Corinthians 3:20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.

Jude 1:16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
Jude 1:17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
Jude 1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
Jude 1:19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.

Psalm 119:1 ALEPH. Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD.
Psalm 119:2 Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, and that seek him with the whole heart.
Psalm 119:3 They also do no iniquity: they walk in his ways.

1st John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Romans 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
Romans 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Romans 6:8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:

John 8:11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
(Jesus took the sin away from the sinner instead of casting the first stone)

2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Colossians 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
Colossians 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

Deuteronomy 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Deuteronomy 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

Proverbs 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
Proverbs 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

Matthew 4:4 Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Romans 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.


If you have any questions, please consult your Bible and not some hoi palloi but an actual KJV Bible.

[Didymus Much]

Re: I want to discuss some things.

Hey everyone. I'm Anna ...-I am pro-vax
-I am pro-life
-I am republican although I am open to other ideas (Even if I disagree)
-I am a PC + Console gamer (As some of you may already know
-My favorite genre of music is pop and Clean rap (Nf is a good example)
-I enjoy drawing
-I play the guitar
-I go to church every Sunday...

Anna's still anonymous, so her opinion comes from the ether and is just as weighty.

Btw, hi, I'm Didymus.

Or am I? *ominous music*

...-My favorite bible verse is James 4:12 "There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But- who are you to Judge your neighbor?"...

Nice try, but "Out of Context" flag thrown on that play. James' writings address members of a closed community of believers (see James 1:1), not everyone. If you're not a member in good standing of that community, none of what he says applies.

You should have gone with Matthew 7:1-5. Not only is it attributed to Jesus (who is higher-ranking in this scheme than his reputed brother), but it is more broadly aimed than James, as well.

Unfortunately, as this thread details, it still doesn't say what you want it to.

...If you wanna talk about anything then i'm open and willing.

Do you call yourself Christian? Why?

[James Hutchins]

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Typical. I go through all the trouble of typing from memory many relevant Bible passages to help guide this young fellow in to manhood only to be snubbed. The stress of being a True Christian Soldier(tm) almost feels overwhelming sometimes yet I know as God is my witness, that I will continue and win the war for God so as to get a Golden Ticket(c) to heaven.

[Brother Gonzalez]

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-I am pro-life

You should be pro-God. God does not always want the babies to be born.
Of course, if a poor young woman is raped or even if she has sex because she wants to, and gets pregnant, the baby is a punishment from God for getting excited. And it shall be born.


But, if the women of an enemy tribe/race/country wants to have their babies, they should be killed in the womb.


Hosea 9:16 Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit: yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.



In short:


Not Christian woman wants to have a baby: you should not. If God made you barren, you should not have any treatment, and if you are already pregnant we should bomb your house.


Christian woman wants to have a baby: the more, the better


Christian or not Christian woman do not want to have a baby:keep it, whore (and the "Christian" is not so Christian after all)

-I am republican although I am open to other ideas (Even if I disagree)

I hope this means you are open to Donald Trump's ideas, not supported by some fluffy bunny Republicans.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/3/3/18236271/senate-republicans-national-emergency

-I am a PC + Console gamer (As some of you may already know

We have discussed this already. You did not change your mind. You are going straight to Hell.

-My favorite genre of music is pop and Clean rap (Nf is a good example)

I don't really know what to say about this. Other than clean rap does not exists, rappers cannot change their evil ways


Jeremiah 13:23
“Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.”

-I enjoy drawing

As long as you are not drawing Idols...


Exodus 20:4 - Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth:

-I play the guitar

As long as you follow Psalms:


Psalms 105:2 - Sing unto him, sing psalms unto him: talk ye of all his wondrous works.

-I go to church every Sunday

Ok, as long as is a Baptist Church and folllows ALL the Bible, otherwise you are wasting your time.

-My favorite bible verse is James 4:12 "There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But- who are you to Judge your neighbor?"

Out of context. But it has already been told many times in this forum and even in this thread.

[BrotherLarry]

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I find your tone disturbing, Anna.


Had you entitled your post "May We Discuss Some Things?" and then had you waited for a senior pastor to give permission, perhaps your indictment of all things Christian would have not seemed so harsh.


Where did you indict us, you may ask? Well, it is implied in the smug way you brag about being a PC gamer. When there is no need for prayer (when we reach Heaven's Gates) perhaps gaming might be acceptable - although I doubt the Lord has an X Box or a Mac - thus you are simply wasting time when you prefer games like Fourthnight or Land of Warcrafts to a bent knee calling out for Jesus to aid you.


We are the true Republicans here - no bending in our ideologies because we base all of our values on those of Christ the King.


No, dear, your opinions don't much matter to us and they won't until you have given over your heart to the Savior and - if it happens - the Department of Faith sees fit to believe your Salvation® is genuine.


OH, GLORY TO GOD! His faithfulness to His people is great, and for that reason I implore you to become one of them in truth and spirit. Let the people of this great church be your example as all else will lead to the destruction of your soul.


In Christlike concern, (Ephesians 4:32)
BrotherLarry

[MitzaLizalor]

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If you wanna talk about anything then i'm open and willing.

Hi .. I'm not sure what "clean rap" is but doubt that NF comes into that category. Anyway, welcome to the forum. It's good to see you're reading The Bible and seeking to know more about Jesus. Although at present He's not in the world (if He were here already, He wouldn't need to return) we can still love Him in absentia. and hate the people He's said we should hate.

The Bible is our only source for the events surrounding His ministry, His assurance of Salvation and His promise to return. There are false teachers who directly contradict Jesus or pretend they've had some sort of magic inspiration, which I'm not about to deny. Clearly though, if their inspiration denies Christ.—.for example by saying He never existed or that we should worship idols or take up table-tapping at séances.—.then their inspiration does not come from Christ.

Alternatively they could just be making stuff up to see if any of it "sticks" as indeed many have done and managed to get a few deluded followers. Madame Blavatsky, Joseph Smith, Ellen G. White (to suggest but three) and there's plenty more.

By reading The Bible we learn about Christianity. Then when someone teaches something else we can identify them easily.

Galatians 1:9

[Basilissa]

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-I am pro-life

Being pro-life means that you disagree with taking human life, period. Are you really sure you really are totally pro-life?

Maybe you are not totally pro-life, just "certain terms and conditions apply" partially pro-life? For example, what do you think about death penalty for people convicted of committing genocide? Or for convicted serial killers? Is it justified to kill people who come to rob your house? What do you think about all the people killed by American soldiers in any of our past or present wars? Or about terrorist leaders killed with drone strikes?

If you can think of any of the above as of a justified killing, then you are NOT pro-life.

[Cranky Old Man]

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Welcome to God's favorite forum!

-I enjoy drawing -I play the guitar

Are you gay?

[Dana723]

Re: I want to discuss some things.

Welcome to God's favorite forum!

Are you gay?

Well, he's a scout master and identifies a a woman, so I guess so?

[MitzaLizalor]

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Hi - well you're up to 100 posts. How do you think it's going?

You know, sometimes you're trying to discuss something but the other person just keeps presenting claims with no supporting evidence? What I do then is look up some evidence from a reliable source on a topic I'm thinking about, read what different people have said (I don't have to agree with them to know what their opinion is, of course) and see how that fits in with what I think myself.

Then I can write: "So-and-so {let's call him McGherkinshaw} says that such-and such {let's call that topic #1} is a load of 21st century codswallop.

"On the other hand, Someone-else {von Thistlethwaite, say} holds to a contrary position. She refers to [source #1] {let's call it The Analects Of Confucius} as an indication that {topic #1} was indeed under discussion several thousand years ago.

"In conclusion, von Thistlethwaite has a valid point. Obviously if {topic #1} was discussed in The Analects Of Confucius the subject cannot be a 21st century invention. McGherkinshaw has not presented any evidence for us to examine and can be disregarded."

Pretty straightforward. The topic under discussion here, at Landover, is God's revelation in Christ. We know what is attributed to God: just look it up in The Bible. You may not agree with The Bible but in order to discuss it you do need to refer to what it says.




1. This is not a subjunctive but a simple past tense
2. The analects are a matter of fact and would be quoted here