[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Mechanix Defends Paganism; Spits on Jesus

PS. I think Bobby-Joe might have just said that Evolution is not out of the realm of possibility.

I was just citing that as an absurd speculation that people indulge in. If we were descendants of fishes we would would talking out of gills.

[Mechanix]

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I never said that I am an atheist. I am not. I am a very spiritual person. It just seems to me that, according to the Bible,the Christian God is a sick, twisted being who (allegidly) created man for the sole purpose of them to blindly worship him, never question him no matter how wrong something seems, be punished for the very fact that we exist (even though God is the one that made that possible) and lead his creation, Mankind, to hate and scorn one another, at the end of which, he destroys everything he created, which is exactly how he planned it out from the beginning. It all sounds rather sadistic.

for what? amusement? Low self esteem? why would he create someone just to worship him? To what end?

I think I'll stick with my peace-loving, tree hugger religion for now.

[Nobar King]

Re: Mechanix Defends Paganism; Spits on Jesus

That's not a religion, it's a delusion.

[Mechanix]

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How is it any more delusional than believing in a God that wants us all to kill each other?

[Nobar King]

Re: Mechanix Defends Paganism; Spits on Jesus

Do you listen to the trees and the rocks?

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Mechanix Defends Paganism; Spits on Jesus

I never said that I am an atheist. I am not. I am a very spiritual person. It just seems to me that, according to the Bible,the Christian God is a sick, twisted being who (allegidly) created man for the sole purpose of them to blindly worship him, never question him no matter how wrong something seems, be punished for the very fact that we exist (even though God is the one that made that possible) and lead his creation, Mankind, to hate and scorn one another, at the end of which, he destroys everything he created, which is exactly how he planned it out from the beginning. It all sounds rather sadistic.

for what? amusement? Low self esteem? why would he create someone just to worship him? To what end?

I think I'll stick with my peace-loving, tree hugger religion for now.

You only say God is sick, twisted, sadistic, nihilistic, blood crazed freak on a power trip of forcing others to madness and degeneracy because you are too selfish to understand what TRUE virtue is.

Mark 7:21-23 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.

You are without God so you are pure evil because God is the only source of good in the world.

[Mechanix]

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Do I Literally hear them speak? No. Much the same way, (I'm sure) You've never Literally Heard God actually speak out loud to you (while youre conscious. unconscious is a dream). Do I commune with nature the way you do with God at church? yes! Do I see the intricate and delicate weavings between plants, animals, people, and the Earth and Universe? Yes!

[Mechanix]

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You only say God is sick, twisted, sadistic, nihilistic, blood crazed freak on a power trip of forcing others to madness and degeneracy because you are too selfish to understand what TRUE virtue is.

Yes. I did say that. I'm not referring to MY spirituality when saying that. I'm referring to the God presented in the Bible.

have you never wondered why youre not supposed to think for yourselves?

[Mechanix]

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Oh and you forgot to mention the part about Low Self Esteem

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Mechanix Defends Paganism; Spits on Jesus

Yes. I did say that. I'm not referring to MY spirituality when saying that. I'm referring to the God presented in the Bible.

have you never wondered why youre not supposed to think for yourselves?

No, I have nevere wondered because I know as a I human I am utterly depraved and selfish like anyone else. Humans have no morality or virtue unless God grants them it. That makes your judgments of God's actions irrelevant becuase you are incapable of TRUE love like God is.

Could you drown a million people like rats because it is the good thing to do? I think not.

[Mechanix]

Re: Mechanix Defends Paganism; Spits on Jesus

Wow. I don't remember claiming to be God. And drowning a million people like rats is not good, its horrific. How do you know that God won't be just as wrathful in heaven? Maybe the rules change when you get there!

Oh and the whole believeing in coporeal god thing? One of you mocked it, citing posiden, and yet, your savior is a coporeal god.

C'mon guys, you can do better than to go back on yourselves.

[Nobar King]

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Wow. I don't remember claiming to be God. And drowning a million people like rats is not good, its horrific.

So you're saying the flood was done in bad judgment? I don't think God is capable of that.

How do you know that God won't be just as wrathful in heaven? Maybe the rules change when you get there!

You don't have many options about where to go after you die, do you? I'll take heaven. It's better than the alternative, where everyone's lawn is always dry and brown.

[Mechanix]

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I actually believe in reincarnation. Everything in the universe runs in cycles, makes sense to me that Life and Death do as well

[Nobar King]

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Everything in the universe runs in cycles.

That's just not true at all and you know it. People who make gross generalizations that are obviously untrue are among my least favorite groups of people. Welcome to the club.

[Mechanix]

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Please cite to me how it is not true, Nobar. How about the cycle of the year? winter,spring,summer,fall, then it starts again. How about the revolutions / rotationsof the Earth, the endless daily cycle of day and night, the tides, the Moon, etc, (I could pretty much do this all day)