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  • #46
    Re: Why your religion is wrong.

    Originally posted by the know nothing View Post
    The problem is that you can't prove anything...
    And I don't hate Jesus...
    I can't hate someone I haven't met.
    You want Proof? Read the Bible God will tell you the Truth its not our job to Prove anything to you Your Lying you do hate Jesus because your mocking him Why are you here? tis is a Christian Forum not a dedate site Next time read the Rules cause your not welcame on Gods Favorite Forum

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    • #47
      Re: Why your religion is wrong.

      I am an atheist. There I said it. I was raised Jewish, but it wasn't for me. I have READ THE BIBLE, as well as the Qu'Ran. I am a very educated person, so don't act like I don't know where you're coming from. I don't believe in God because I understand science and accept it because I know HOW IT WORKS.
      So, you understand how matches work? I am guessing yes. Good. Then you can picture yourself for all eternity as one giant match book lighting up and burning for all eternity while the skin melts off your body - pretty scientific, really.
      sigpicGenesis 1:20-22
      21And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

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      • #48
        Re: Why your religion is wrong.

        Originally posted by Miss April View Post
        You want Proof? Read the Bible God will tell you the Truth its not our job to Prove anything to you Your Lying you do hate Jesus because your mocking him Why are you here? tis is a Christian Forum not a dedate site Next time read the Rules cause your not welcame on Gods Favorite Forum
        Why don't you learn to write your own language?
        The bible isn't a proof...

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        • #49
          Re: Why your religion is wrong.

          Originally posted by the know nothing View Post
          The bible isn't a proof...
          You're correct. The Bible is THE proof.
          Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

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          • #50
            Re: Why your religion is wrong.

            Originally posted by Miss April View Post
            So that's a santic website? That's not a shock to me No fool your wrong the Bible does say there is a hell which you whould know if you really read the Bible before so the stop lying
            Do you care to tell me where in the Bible it says that there is a place of torment for the wicked that lasts forever?

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            • #51
              Re: Why your religion is wrong.

              Originally posted by Serenity-Millennium View Post
              Do you care to tell me where in the Bible it says that there is a place of torment for the wicked that lasts forever?
              Just off the top of my head, here is one...

              Mark 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:

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              • #52
                Re: Why your religion is wrong.

                It says IN DANGER. Not "Will surely suffer..."

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                • #53
                  Re: Why your religion is wrong.

                  Originally posted by Serenity-Millennium View Post
                  It says IN DANGER. Not "Will surely suffer..."
                  Are you kidding friend?

                  Psalm 9:17
                  The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

                  Do you think hell is a kind of 2 week vacation camp?
                  Psalm 81:10:
                  I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt:
                  open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

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                  • #54
                    Re: Why your religion is wrong.

                    Originally posted by Serenity-Millennium View Post
                    Do you care to tell me where in the Bible it says that there is a place of torment for the wicked that lasts forever?
                    Matthew 25:41 (Jesus speaking to people at final judgment), ...Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels.

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                    • #55
                      Re: Why your religion is wrong.

                      Originally posted by Wide-Open View Post
                      Are you kidding friend?

                      Psalm 9:17
                      The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

                      Do you think hell is a kind of 2 week vacation camp?
                      It is certain that "as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive" (1 Cor. 15:22). It is certain that "God is the Saviour of all mankind" (1 Tim. 4:10). It is certain that Jesus came to seek, and to save the lost (Luke 19:10). That includes Judas, who had no choice, but was ordained by God to betray the Saviour. That includes the Adversary, who was made to be what he is. That includes all mankind. That includes all God's enemies, whether they are in heaven or on earth (Col. 1:20). It is certain that not one will be eternally lost.


                      No, only what has been decreed by God can be certain. When understood properly the parable in Matthew 25 has nothing to do with individuals, or with final destiny. Just look at the details, nothing is mentioned about faith in Christ or the evangel, just how Nations have treated Christ's brethren after the flesh, Israelites, during the Tribulation.

                      Death will be destroyed by putting life in its place. That nullifies the objection made by many that the teaching of Reconciliation destroys the hope of everlasting life. They say that Jesus' words in Matthew 25:46 make punishment and future life the same length: "And these [the wicked] shall go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into life eternal." If the punishment of the wicked is only age-lasting, not everlasting, then the reward of the righteous is also age-lasting, and not everlasting. This is their argument, and so far as the above quotation is concerned they are correct. Now the promise of "eonian life" is a marvelous provision. It is the proclamation to all who believe, of the privilege of living in Christ in this present life, and living with Christ, reigning with Christ, and being like Christ, "in the ages to come" (Eph.2:7). During those eons when He is bringing the entire universe into harmony with God, the church will share with Christ in all that glorious activity. But the assurance of unending life is not in this offer, wonderful as it is. For the eons will end! Rather, the assurance of unending life lies in the promise that we shall be made immortal when Christ calls us into that fellowship of service with Himself. Our alienation and separation from God are already ended in this life, through Christ. But it is not until His second coming that immortality is conferred, through change for living saints, and through resurrection for dead saints. Immortality is life over which death has no power. So it embodies unlimited life.



                      Here He is talking about being saved during this dispensation to occupy a rulership role in His love-kingdom—to act as co-laborers, co-restorers with Him in His world-harvest field (John 4:34-38). Only those who enter the narrow gate of self-denial, allowing Christ to perfect them in love and holiness can qualify to minister to the world in this era as well as the Kingdom Millennial Age to come. These will shine as lights set on a hill (Matt. 5:14; Ps. 48). They will serve as kings and priests—a holy nation, a royal priesthood—to reflect God’s character to the world (1 Pet. 2:9-12). Many are called to this high privilege, but few respond. Such as refuse will find themselves in a place of outer darkness—not "forever," but for a season (Matt. 25:14-30). This describes exactly what happened to many Jews when Jerusalem was crushed under Rome’s armies in 70 AD—which Christ prophesied in Matthew 24 and 25.

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                      • #56
                        Re: Why your religion is wrong.

                        Originally posted by Serenity-Millennium View Post
                        It is certain that "as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive" (1 Cor. 15:22). It is certain that "God is the Saviour of all mankind" (1 Tim. 4:10). It is certain that Jesus came to seek, and to save the lost (Luke 19:10). That includes Judas, who had no choice, but was ordained by God to betray the Saviour. That includes the Adversary, who was made to be what he is. That includes all mankind. That includes all God's enemies, whether they are in heaven or on earth (Col. 1:20). It is certain that not one will be eternally lost.[...]
                        can I just stop you right there.

                        Look at the first verse you quoted, 1Co:15:22: For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

                        I do not think that either Judas or Satan are included in that - whatever else, they were not "in Christ."

                        Thank you - have you no rope sandals to knit out of copies of the Joo York Times?
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                        “We must reassert that the essence of Christianity is the love of obedience to God’s Laws and that how that complete obedience is used or implemented does not concern us.”

                        Author of such illuminating essays as,
                        Map of the Known World; Periodic Table of Elements; The History of Linguistics; The Errors of Wicca; Dolphins and Evolution; The History of Landover (The Apology); Landover and the Civil War; 2000 Racial Slurs.

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                        • #57
                          Re: Why your religion is wrong.

                          It doesn't say, ALL IN CHRIST shall be made alive. It says, in Christ shall ALL be made alive.

                          Your interpretations implies that only some are in Christ. The text states that everyone is in Christ.

                          Ephesians 4: 4-6You were all called to travel on the same road and in the same direction, so stay together, both outwardly and inwardly. You have one Master, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who rules over all, works through all, and is present in all. Everything you are and think and do is permeated with Oneness.


                          6One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

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                          • #58
                            Re: Why your religion is wrong.

                            Originally posted by NotInRyebread View Post
                            Hello all, and if you're reading this, then you already hate me.

                            You people are a bunch of horrifically ignorant, close-minded racists who only care about your own agendas. I look around this forum and what do I see? Bigots. Nothing but bigots. Look at the "Good Reverend" and his "filthy rich" legacy. He wants an 18 year old virgin, and admits to flirting with young girls. He's not a godly man. He's a bigot, and a pervert. He even admits to basically bribing women with money and jewelry. Get over yourselves!

                            You here all claim that your religion is 100% foolproof and anything else is to be disregarded as blatant heresy.

                            I am an atheist. There I said it. I was raised Jewish, but it wasn't for me. I have READ THE BIBLE, as well as the Qu'Ran. I am a very educated person, so don't act like I don't know where you're coming from. I don't believe in God because I understand science and accept it because I know HOW IT WORKS.

                            For example, the reason we know how old the earth is, is because of GEOLOGY, CHEMISTRY, AND MATHEMATICS! You can't make that up. They are laws that govern the universe, and they helped us to determine just how old the earth is. You have no grounds to say that the earth is 6,010 years old just because your bible says so.

                            YOU ALL WORSHIP THE KING JAMES BIBLE..... KING JAMES! That's a man, not a God. How can you consider a book to be true that was written by man? How can you say that it was written by God in "God's favorite language", when we know for a fact that the particular version that you hold as most holy was written by a man! Is that not heresy? You are ALL HERETICS. The very foundation of your religion is hypocritical.

                            Looking beyond that point, the bible IS A BOOK! It holds as much credibility as Harry Potter! You can't take hundreds of years of scientific research and toss it aside without so much as consideration because some random book told you it's a lie!

                            Okay, the question ALL Christians have asked me. If there's not a god, then who created the universe? My answer is that it has always been there, but that's completely unacceptable.

                            So I ask you. I will gladly stoop to your beliefs and take in everything you can throw at me IF you can answer this one question. Where did God come from?

                            If your answer is that he has always been there, then you are being COMPLETELY hypocritical for denouncing my answer that is essentially the same thing.

                            I'm not even getting started with evolution and all of that jazz. This thread deals with enough. As you guys have more rebuttals, I'll add more of my view-point.


                            PS: By blatantly ignoring the message here and just calling me a "Homosexual, a jew, a witch, a devil-worshipper" or any other variant of degrading close-minded tomfoolery, you are contributing NOTHING. If you are so certain you have the right religion, then you should have no problem at all proving me wrong.

                            So I challenge you people. PROVE ME WRONG.
                            Finally! Someone tries to take down these idiots!

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                            • #59
                              Re: Why your religion is wrong.

                              Originally posted by JosephB View Post
                              Finally! Someone tries to take down these idiots!
                              I am not going to apologize for what I said. You think slavery is fine, all other races are lower than us (All men are created equal), men are better than women, and you insult Catholics. Ban me, if you want, it would only help me get away from this joke.

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                              • #60
                                Re: Why your religion is wrong.

                                We only go by what the Bible says. If you're saying we are bad, then you're saying the Bible's bad. And if you say the Bible's bad, then well, you're not really a Christian are you? Why would we ban you when all you have to do is leave and not come back?

                                You choose to stay here and post. No one is forcing you. Leave, go ahead. And stay away from video games!!!

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